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Norithics

A Scam, and you should know about it.

Shokuji
Shokuji
wrote this journal on it:
https://inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=40408

Arm yourselves with knowledge, my friends. Don't be a victim.
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Added: 6 years, 4 months ago
 
oasus
6 years, 4 months ago
you think you know a person...
ZephonTsol
6 years, 4 months ago
Hmm.

Should I be surprised about this person who I have no knowledge of doing something immoral (with provable evidence supporting)?

Not really. Humans are what they are and you get bad ones along with the goods. At least Shokuji took the time to prove his point beyond the line where opinion matters. You can have an opinion on something all you want, but when the proof is right there and shows you as being wrong, your opinion matters little. (I say 'you' there in the general sense, not in the 'you = Nori' sense)

Lesson learned, I suppose. Always make sure you know where your money is going and who is handling it because there is NO free in life. Good on you, Nori, for spreading some word about it.
Eviscerator
6 years, 4 months ago
...Damn.  Just business indeed, as though people looked kindly upon middlemen and suits to begin with.
Seth65
6 years, 4 months ago
I'm not sure I'm understanding what exactly the scammer did. I understand he was pretty much making money off another artist's work, but the process confuses me.
Gobby
6 years, 4 months ago
According to Nir he made no money. Even so, the main issue is this:

1.) He offered up pics with his character. (Project Kitty)
2.) The price he was asking other people to pay would seem to suggest they were going halfsies because...
3.) The price of the commission was haggled (or agreed, or what have you) down with the artist, but the other people were not told this.

This means that Nir got something (art with his character) by withholding info and having other people pay the full price.
 Pretty shifty behavior, if you ask me.
Seth65
6 years, 4 months ago
That does clear it up a bit, though I'm still confused.

So people gave him money, which he then used to pay the artist for commissions of his character which were asked by the people (so it's really the people's commission), but he asked for a different price than he was paying the artist? Is that it? Or am I way off track?
Gobby
6 years, 4 months ago
I'm not sure if people gave him money or not. Essentially, normal comissions from the artist he and another person were getting were $50. On his journal he asks for $20 to be in a pic with him. With no information that the price has been lowered (he and the artist agreed to lower the price temporarily) it looks like you're paying less than half of the original price. He pays nothing and gets art with his character in it by withholding the fact that the price was lowered. Something for nothing by deception.
Seth65
6 years, 4 months ago
That clears things up very well. Thank you.
dmfalk
6 years, 4 months ago
The short of it is that he had others buy him art with his character (and the commissioners') without him paying anything on his end. He gets free pics that others pay for, thinking that it's a split commission, each paying half.

And he thinks there's nothing wrong with that, particularly not being upfront about him not paying his "half" of the deal.

d.m.f.
Seth65
6 years, 4 months ago
Thank you for clearing it up for me.
LillyCorthaine
6 years, 3 months ago
Damn... Guess that is one reason why I rarely commissions more artists.
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