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PeachClover

Masturbation VS Virtual Sex

After reading the title, you probably wonder what’s the difference.  When you think of masturbation the image that comes to mind is either sitting or laying and all the motion is in the arm, but virtual sex is doing all of the motion required to have sex with another person just without the other person.  In porn, we see this most often with women (or foxes) using dildos on piston machines where if they were getting yiffed by another person this is the exact position they would use for receiving sex.

Notice though, that for all of the porn of receiving virtual sex, we almost never see anyone “topping” - giving virtual sex, and this is because the simple truth is that it’s not very sexy to watch someone hump into a cocksleeve (unless it’s clear and you can clearly see the action).  However, just because it’s not very sexy to watch doesn’t mean that it isn’t very satisfying to do.

I think that even though no one talks about it, there is a accidental stigma about virtual sex for men because it is an inevitable part of growing up that males will dry hump a bed or pillow and wear themselves out because there is too much friction, so with or without any other person’s commentary, the act often becomes associated with inefficient experimentation that one may find embarrassing to revisit.  However, having access to a lubed cocksleeve completely changes the experience into one that is not only deeply satisfying for it’s own sake but also serves as a whole body exercise and stamina training that can be applied to sex with another person as well as general health.  

Two months ago, I was playing Besti, a cartoon pony sex simulator for VR, and realized that masturbating in VR wasn’t really satisfying the need I felt, however after setting up my cocksleeve on a body pillow and thrusting into the sleeve in more or less the missionary position using my core muscles I found that after orgasm I was more deeply satisfied as if I really had had sex.  For over a month now, I have been opting for full body virtual sex over pawing off with just my paw and arm, and there are a few things that I can now say with certainty about it.

Virtual sex is clearly more strenuous just as actual sex is more strenuous than masturbating, but virtual sex leaves me with a strong sense of euphoria, a joy that makes all of the troubles go away as if I were laying or playing on a beach in perfect weather and smiling without a care in the world.  With masturbation this feeling doesn’t get nearly as intense and doesn’t last more than a few seconds, but with virtual sex it has in many cases, improved my mood for the whole day.  

We often think that sex is just about stimulating the genitals to orgasm, but particularly now - with the physical isolation making people talk about wanting sex more despite the endless supply of porn and intellectual connectivity the internet brings - that minute details of brain and body chemistry have evolved in such a way that we need the physical exertion, the full body thrusting, the particular positions to fully satisfy the biological expectation that masturbation alone doesn’t satisfy.
To give that a more mundane parallel, if you go to have your car’s brakes changed at a service garage you fully expect the fluids to be topped off, the filters to be checked, the windsheild wipers to be checked, etc and if the only thing done is the brake change, then there is a feeling of disappointment even though these things are not directly related to the reason for the visit.

My personal experience adds more evidence to the theory because since making virtual sex my norm, I haven’t felt the desperation for physical contact that seems to be running rampant right now nor have I felt strong feelings of jealousy or self-pity for not having physical contact sexual or otherwise.  I would even go so far as to say that conversations with friends have been even more pleasant lately because there hasn’t been an underlying sense of dissatisfaction bringing down my mood.

Of course, because virtual sex is a strenuous activity and my libido exceeds my stamina, I end up pawing off in addition to virtual sex.  I don’t know if there are other names for the activity, and if there are I would love to know about them.  I would also love to hear if your experiences are similar or completely different about virtual sex, masturbation, or even have physical isolation has effected your libido.



EDIT:

To my friends who know English as a second language: a "cocksleeve" is an artificial vagina or artificial anus used in male masturbation.  They are also called "pocket pussies" and "Flesh Lights", however a Flesh Light is a specific company.  Tenga is another company that that makes cocksleeves and other male masturbaters.  What sets the cocksleeve apart from other male masturbation devices is that it is a simple tube that is long enough to insert the entire penis.  
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Added: 3 years, 11 months ago
 
Keeran
3 years, 11 months ago
Interesting, though, I’m surprised you haven’t tried playing Custom Order Maid 3D 2, because that game has a version with an onahole controller. And the game has really good mods for furry characters and stuff. Here’s the link but you’ll need Google Translate
PeachClover
3 years, 11 months ago
For some time now, I have been wondering if there is a site dedicated to VR sex simulators.  I really have wanted to experience more of them, but I didn't even find Besti.  It was brought up in a forum post.  I don't know the right terms to find what I am seeking in searches, because I can think to call it is "VR sex simulator".  All other terms seem deceiving.  If you know of a site that points to them, please let me know.
Keeran
3 years, 11 months ago
Your guess is as good as mine there.
Personally I wanted to get into that too and find a good breeding mount setup. I know there was this breeding toy mount called the “Extractor” on Etsy but I couldn’t buy it for its price.
I think for me I’m very particular about making messes especially since I don’t have a desk setup at all, let alone one for doing naughty stuff. And I want to explore that area at some point.
PeachClover
3 years, 11 months ago
I have constantly thought about building one of those in wood for both standing kneeling position.  However, I opted to build a cowgirl machine first.  I started on it just before the isolation orders, however, I am not finished so it's on a back burner.  I'm a little confused when you say "I’m very particular about making messes especially since I don’t have a desk setup at all"  Can you elaborate please?
Keeran
3 years, 2 months ago
So I know this is old, and I apologize for not elaborating.
Basically, I’ve seen some people attach their onaholes on their desks to masturbate hands free. I wanted to do that and yeah I recently got a desk but I’m trying to figure that part out. I wanted to ask you in Pm on how you set up a system to have virtual sex?
PeachClover
3 years, 2 months ago
Theses are comments not PMs, but the way I did it was pretty simple.  For standing, I used a folding roll-away bed.  Between the folds of the mattress I put two boxes.  The one facing me is shorter.  On top of it I place the sleeve and the taller box goes behind it to keep it from getting pushed back.  Additional padding can be used behind the sleeve to keep it pushed out.  Since mine is pure silicone it doesn't do a lot of sliding even under such friction.  Then I place the other rolling side of the bed against a wall with a pillow handing over the top to keep it from banging into the wall.  I keep the sleeve wrapped in a white shirt or towel to keep it from getting everything wet.  You might think that pressure on the sleeve would keep it in place, but too much makes it uncomfortable.  

I haven't setup such a stand for a desk, but if I were going to do it, my first thought is to use four pieces of heavy cardboard for interlocking pieces.  The two side pieces of the device would hook over the lip of the desk and the back plate would interlock between them to form a wall to keep the sleeve from being fucked backwards.  Again, sleeves are more comfortable to use this way when they have that wiggle room.  The fourth piece would be an interlocking section on the front to give it better stability.  You could double the pieces of cardboard to make it sturdier.  Once you are comfortable with the design you can use the cardboard pieces as a template for a wooden version.  Both versions may be more comfortable if you add tape around the places that come in contact with your skin.  The best part about designs like this is that if they are just fitted pieces, they can be broken down and laid flat for storage or laid out in the open without anyone realizing what they are.
Keeran
3 years, 2 months ago
Yeah I would try it with my bed but it’s too low to do that. But I might try he desk setup if I get a VR system.
AndrewR
3 years, 11 months ago
it .. sort of hard to have conversation when replies you just made disappear (even if this your place, Peach). May be typing something is not a problem for you - for me it really some effort! I probably misread your questions - I was about to say what my life is effectively asexual, but  I looked into few  things. Sorry, if you want something else I hardly can give  you this.

Thanks for explaining some terms in EDIT, still.
TwoTails
3 years, 11 months ago
A bit beside this subject but,
I've known since I was 5 that certain positions and motions can trigger orgasms, though that was a few accidental times until figured out more a few years later.
Specifically, sorta like hunched crunches - pulling arms & legs closer & apart, flexing abdomen muscles, sorta like wing flapping but more with the legs, etc. Basically close to "doggy style" motions, which makes sense for evolutionary reasons.
So in some cases intense climbing, swimming, situps, etc can trigger it for some people.
(And yeah, if anyone wondered (my case anyway), 'dry' orgs until about 10, then was just a bit of clear gel.)
Eventually figured out the common ways by 15, easier & less physical demanding, but not as good.

Basically the point is I can't make/set up like a custom couch with a mount to take advantage of this quirk, that gets into weird territory.

I know nothing of sex toys & VR though.
PeachClover
3 years, 11 months ago
That really is too bad that you can't set up your own mount, however, as I said above, you you are using a lubed cocksleeve, you don't need a super hard surface to resist your thrusts.  I have found a fondness for wrapping a leg over a bodypillow while on my side.  I don't even need to use more than my leg weight to hold it it place.
" I know nothing of sex toys & VR though.
I know I talked about Besti for VR, but virtual sex doesn't have anything to do with virtual reality.  I thought what I wrote made that clear, but do I need to edit my post?
TwoTails
3 years, 11 months ago
No, you mentioned it, sounded like you sorta wanted something better for that - but I never tried VR aside from that old Nintendo VB attempt at it back around 2001 so couldn't recommend anything.
But sounds like it would help people alot to have devices that interact with some lewd 3D headset programs.
The VS stuff is why I mentioned physical position quirks.

No need to worry about replies, sometime people only have something vaguely related to say.
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