I Give Up... by sonictopfan < Journal | Inkbunny, the Furry Art Community

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ChaosMaster12

4 years ago

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Jesus, dude. It's like somebody's out to get you or something.

DanST

4 years ago

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Inkbunny blocked in your country?

MyMelodyKuromiFan

4 years ago

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@ DanST

She's from the Middle East.

DanST

4 years ago

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@ MyMelodyKuromiFan

Are they strict on internet rules over there?

MyMelodyKuromiFan

4 years ago

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@ DanST

Yeah, I think he lives in Saudi Arabia. He used TOR to get on here.

Sonamyfan04

4 years ago

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@ MyMelodyKuromiFan

"	ThatOneLoser wrote:
	Yeah, I think he lives in Saudi Arabia. He used TOR to get on here.

He should use a VPN

DanST

4 years ago

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@ MyMelodyKuromiFan

TOR?

MyMelodyKuromiFan

4 years ago

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@ DanST

The Onion Router, it's a program where you can browse anonymously circumventing internet censorship.

Roketsune

4 years ago

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@ DanST

Islamic nations generally are. They hate sexual expression even more than the most conservative Western nations do, and have no First Amendment to deter them. Also, few of them have a real democracy. Hell, even Israel's democracy is a hideous farce. The most they can hope for there are benign monarchial autocrats who are more loyal to and fond of economic and technological progress and the money and convenience they bring, than they are to/of whatever outrageous and Byzantine shit the Quran espouses, which generally is mutually exclusive to #1 or at least a massive impediment to it.

Of course, those who live in Yemen don't have to worry about internet censorship because us Americans and the Saudis (the 9/11 orchestrators and cheerleaders- we're allies with THOSE people, somehow) made it so they're preoccupied with not STARVING TO DEATH during a total economic collapse WE DELIBERATELY INFLICTED IN WARTIME. Bullshit from 1,400 years ago regarding his successor and his descendants that started before Mohammed's corpse even got cold and which Muslims never much wanted to resolve or forget, is also a major cause for some areas becoming warzones and people to be treated like shit. There's another war on there IIRC, too. But Yemen's the big one, and we sure do love selling them bombs to kill various classes of people with.

It's also very, VERY, VERY hot there.

Even in the best areas to live like Lebanon or Jordan, or the UAE or Dubai or Qatar (re: your question- yes, IIRC they ban and blacklist sites for porn or blasphemy, but are rich), fucking Israel and Hezbollah and the wider Jew versus Muslim shit that really took off after the UN, incited by white gentile guilt for allowing so many Jews to die or wallow in limbo before Mad Dog Hitler bit them too and forced them to put that rabid beast down for good, and tempered by no other logical or ethical considerations whatsoever, decided to take land Muslims owned and give it to the Jews and the resurrected State of Israel.

The same people who, at least according to their holy book that is comprised of various anonymously written moral edicts and fictional tales of violence and circumcision and oppression (you know, people we call decent, God-fearing, wholesome folks), had taken that land by force and exterminated or enslaved every fucking person in it following their victory (which entailed a siege in which trumpets were used in lieu of catapults or battering rams IIRC- weird shit) about 3 thousand-something years ago, following a 50-year trek in the desert God had decreed in which the main protagonist died just before finding the Promised Land because he had a pissed or arrogant tone when using God's power to make water flow (or something like that). Land which they promptly lost to IIRC the Assyrians or whoever because King David did bad shit and thus God hated them again IIRC. God has always hated them yet they worshipped Yahweh anyway, with predictable results for most of their pathetic and defeat-abundant history. Even a Roman general didn't feel he deserved a Triumph after capturing Jerusalem because the Jewish God hated his own people so much.

So, yeah, the Middle East has a bunch of problems. Many of them due to Islam or basic human folly, and many from our atrocious and laughably self-injurious meddling and machinations. If you're a misogynistic fuck who wants a personal harem
of wives who can do almost nothing without your permission, it's a great place due to the oil revenues (or, was- not sure what effect entering a pissing contest with a nation who could obliterate them 100s of times over over oil prices is having on the Saudis). A few small areas are nice when Israel isn't causing chaos and strife from their perpetual blockade of and war against a people no one wants to take in despite all the solidarity talk by the Muslims. But, I'd rather live in Australia- a shithole by legal, moral, and cultural Western standards- over any place there.

PizzaKing64

4 years ago

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@ MyMelodyKuromiFan

She's a man dude. :/

MyMelodyKuromiFan

4 years ago

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@ PizzaKing64

Sorry.

takaneru

4 years ago

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@ MyMelodyKuromiFan

Dude....respectfully. how can you be so distracted ?! I'm amazed

MyMelodyKuromiFan

4 years ago

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@ takaneru

Internet, you don't see them face to face.

takaneru

4 years ago

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@ MyMelodyKuromiFan

but even talking to him you can see if he is man or woman like "her, him, etc"

Roketsune

4 years ago

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@ takaneru

How? I did not know they were male. I had no indication of that besides the gender ratios of furries and making presumptions. In fact, the Amy avatar subconsciously induces people into saying "she" because furries generally perceive each other by our fursonae and avatars rather than RL traits. Besides, if they have any sense, they won't care about such trivialities right now.

takaneru

4 years ago

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@ Roketsune

It is just a matter of talking to the person, and believe me I am 100% that he is a man and not know him of long ago .
and not just for once a month and a year.
and it surprises me because I understood that he knows him for a longer time and better than me haha.
In addition,

"	the Amy avatar subconsciously induces people into saying "she" because furries generally

what you say is not 100% accurate because if you see on profile photos, there are many users with profiles of anime sexy boys (for example) and most know that they are women or Ponys (for me is difficult)

KAIJUfreak

4 years ago

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Did you piss anyone off recently?

MyMelodyKuromiFan

4 years ago

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@ KAIJUfreak

She got her first account deactivated over sharing lolicon content.

KAIJUfreak

4 years ago

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@ MyMelodyKuromiFan

Yes, I know that.

BlazeHeartPanther

4 years ago

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What the fuck is even happening?

Roketsune

4 years ago

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@ BlazeHeartPanther

Not much. Just the world going completely mad and staying indoors over a flu that should have remained in China but we all allowed to infect the world instead, and in the meantime governments and social media are punishing certain people who are now indulging more in the fictional materials they hate. They have to be quick before they get sick, so they're banning and blacklisting double-time before the homestuck people of the world have a chance to masturbate to it.

It's called having you priorities in order, dont'cha know?

BlazeHeartPanther

4 years ago

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@ Roketsune

No matter how you spell it, it always spells RETARDED

takaneru

4 years ago

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you are a winner and i love you, you can!!!

Shadow86

4 years ago

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What's been going on everybody is either getting blocked or being forced to other platforms this whole week.

Roketsune

4 years ago

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@ Shadow86

Maybe the admins and mods of the world's content sites are on duty MORE because of this flu strain, but also are much pissier from being confined. Maybe that explains this wave of bannings. *shrugs* Hopefully they'll get sick and there won't be a ventillator to save them because more attention was given to canonical ages and determining age from faces in their war on pedophilia via purification of fictional materials, than to fucking preparing for a national or global medical emergency which they had ample reason to expect.

StandUp93

4 years ago

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Maybe it's a sign.

Or maybe it's a test

Btw Discord has been having issues...a few channels that I was in were suddenly gone

Roketsune

4 years ago

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@ StandUp93

Too bad the staff who moderate hellholes such as Discord can always work from home.

Oh, God. I just realized,Twitter and Facebook and YouTube use these specialized areas that are often run by a company they outsource to. Their jobs are little more than to be expendable meatshields thrown against a constant firehose-strength stream of humanity's worst ideas and deeds. Life could get even worse for them if they now have to look at actual child porn and beheadings in their own homes.

KitsuneHime

4 years ago

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Plus side is, at least you still have access here. ^^;

MyMelodyKuromiFan

4 years ago

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Don't give up.

I had it rough and I still bounced back.

DragonStar731

4 years ago

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Dang. Hang in there. You'll always be my friend no matter what.

PizzaKing64

4 years ago

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Damn! :(

curbstomp416

4 years ago

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Hang in there, chum. Don't let those thugs scare you out of your passion.

kaburninator

4 years ago

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Major bummer! don't give up, we still here for you

KillaLotus119

4 years ago

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Is Facebook allowed where you are, some artists have used that to get commissions and post art and talk with people.

WhiteMageTifa

4 years ago

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Don't give up I don't know how long you are banned for or if your even Prema banned but you need to not give up.

I would see how long your bannd for and try to wait it out befor making another account or somthing or returning to the OG or 2nd one. i don't think you should throw away all your hard work. you just need to be careful and not post loli art.

you can still post AMY art just not underage amy i know that may be hard but... you just gotta change a few things this battle isn't over you hear me.

I know you feel at all time low but things will get better you hear? things will improve may not seem like it right now but you shouldn't give up giving up means you let them win and you don't want that right?

You just need to let this blow over my friend and things will improve maybe you won't see it right away but over time it will.

Roketsune

4 years ago

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@ WhiteMageTifa

I would need to be extremely incentivized to run a group- or even just to go to the site as a regular user- if I have to change how I render some beloved character or otherwise submit to puritanical bullshit just to belong there- and even then, I could be banned anyway. Discord is a horrible choice to base any group in, and it's extremely possible the feds will raid or indict them at some point because of all the actual criminal behavior there.

Any place that says this or that is verboten, especially if they habitually go the Tumblr route of administration- ignore actual CP and respond to LEOs asking for help belatedly or not at all, and ban wholesale anti-CSA pedophiles and their professional CSA prevention allies, while simultaneously obsessively banning every suspected shota/loli (and maybe cub- probably at least one of those insufferable furry "Trust and Safety" retards who precipitated the last crisis still works there and still shit-cans cub porn reports without action) artist and enthusiast and obsessively rebanning them, and never respond or even read appeals no matter how merited- is at best an extremely precarious place for anything.

Cubfurs, and furries and rational people in general, need to understand Discord and most other social media are at best temporary and expendable and to be used with the expectation of being banned for whatever reason because of some asshole or because they disregard or skirt content rules. Discord is the worst place to set up any community. Maybe worse than Twitter.

Even Inkbunny is not completely guaranteed to be a permanent haven as not all the mods are paragons of reason and tolerance, and its fate seems disturbingly dependent upon the welfare and freedom of a person who resides in this dystopian lunatic asylum of a country which is a bizarre combination of liberal anti-porn SJW and conservative simultaneously, a nation that thinks Boris and the party is doing great during an emergency the government has arguably embarassed itself and failed even harder than ours by its failed attempts to mitigate, and which sickened the PM and the health doofus. They support the party that set the stage for their calamitous situation there, and caused them to not even have access to EU stockpiles despite being like 20-30 miles away from France and not much further away from their HQ. They not long ago gave up implementing this insane age verification system everyone would need to use to look at smut. They may well do so again, maybe even this year.

Who knows? We are possibly one furry-inclusive anti-"child porn" law or revision, or one obscenity-obsessed wanker in whatever they call their equivalent of our DOJ, away from becoming refugees resettling in Sankaku Complex (a huge hentai repository that also likes furry and may be the 3rd or 4th largest furry art repository, 2nd if only counting whatever the name is for the type of repository e621 is).

It's also rather dangerous to endorse any compromise or disregard of one's morals, to endorse submission and assimilation in circumstances like this.This is not how we will reverse the tide of increasing censorship and centralization of power.

WhiteMageTifa

3 years, 11 months ago

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@ Roketsune

This was a  lot to read OwO very insightful thank you for the reply.

Sorry i haven't been on the site so i'm sorry for the late reply and you are right there is a lot of crap going on the site Discord.

I read the whole thing. it was an interesting read. you did a  good job on it. and i agree with you  on a lot of things here.

I am not a   fan of  all the anti porn laws and such.

I'm sorry i am not as insightful and very good with words as you are @w@;

Ivang

4 years ago

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NO NO!! DON'T LEAVE ME!!! D':

Kuromi4Melody222

4 years ago

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Please stay

Roketsune

4 years ago

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Wow, this timing is absolutely dreadful. Please ensure you are extremely familiar with VPNs and proxies and other circumvention technology, and acquire and learn them before any long-term outage. For whatever it's worth, I stand in solidarity with people all over the world, whether they are within China, the Middle East, Russia (they banned Inkbunny, probably for the enormous volume of Zabikava cub porn we made), Japan, or the West (New Zealand is awful in that regard, probably also Australia), who just wish to puruse and submit artwork and news in peace and with impunity.

Fuck the governments that do that. I hope everyone who suppresses others like that catch this new flu and then finds they can't have anything delivered and can't get anymore TP or Halls lozenges for the next 6 months because their supply system was shit before this happened and now it's imploded completely. Too bad China's army of censors evaded it, though there's always the chance it will boomerang and reinfect them even worse. I'd love it if it only infected the censors.

Anyway, I just saw the second half of your journal. I present this to you: Do you love your enemies and oppressors and wish them well? If not, why would you surrender and give them what they want? I generally have observed that people are not well rewarded by being so gracious to those who wish them harm and demand conformity.

Also, how is being a Sonic porn artist less legitimate than, say, selling candy, or being an entertainer? You say this like it's childish, but how is making money by providing a service which you also love providing childish? It's one of many non-essential entertainment services which we never feel ashamed to indulge in or serve in. I posit that this exclamation of utter frustration and defeat is far more childish than selling and making porn.

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