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Koorivlf

Cub Art is Still Bad, I'm surprised this site isn't called Cb wh...

which would be CP but the P upside down. CubBunny would make it a lot easier to recognize this site as basically just being a site in which you either back up your art to encase of something really really really bad happening or you come to jerk off to the conceptual idea of animal kids in sexual positions or """non-"""sexual positions.

I like the rule about no humans in sexual situations.From an outsider looking in, I assume that's there because if someone thought it'd be a good idea to do the normal cub thing, but with a human, the FBI would be on your ass.

Thanks for coming to my ted talk

Baby Nut is also bad as argued here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho_Teko-Jr0
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Added: 4 years, 1 month ago
 
Drizzle
4 years, 1 month ago
I remember a similar journal from you a couple moths ago. Did you ever end up sharing any proof of this 'Cub Art is bad' statement or is it just an opinion?

Not trying to be sarcastic, I'm genuinely interested if there's anything to this.
MystBunny
4 years, 1 month ago
Nope, just working backwards from his conclusion. Also claimed video games cause violence and porn involving quadrupeds is also bad.
Koorivlf
4 years, 1 month ago
I looked into studies and it's basically inconclusive because gathering data on the subject is hard. There is real harm that can come from Drawn CP. It's still undetermined how widespread it is. It is clear that, just like anything else in life, "just letting it happen" is not the best course of action. At a very very very basic level, one should speak to a therapist specializing in such spaces as a general rule to reduce the more harmful people using such material then taking harmful actions. You can look up the studies yourself cause it's boring to point to a bunch of studies that basically go "idk, use best practices please"

If you only believe that the harmful people in Drawn CP communities are those who want control over others more than actually having a lust of kids, you have to admit that those sorts of harmful people will gravitate towards such cub material. This does happen everywhere, it's why the question of a subject like violence in videogames vs who actually becomes violent comes up a lot still. The amount of Pedos that will say "Drawn CP is 100% fine and there's nothing wrong with it, it's just art!!!" massively massively outweighs the few people I've seen say "Cub can cause certain people to hang around here and this is what I do to stop it, this is how I use it"

There's literally 2 comments that say "It's not bad!!!" this in this thread alone.
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Also
-Videogames can cause a rise in aggression, just like a football game can, depending on the game and the person's skill level. It can cause people to do violent acts who most likely were already going to do something violent, it just helps give them ideas. Without guidance and oversight, like any other information one learns, the lessons taken from videogames can cause many types of issues.

- Feral artwork has the same issue as cub. Especially when the feral char is portrayed as just a feral creature. Although this can be worse because pets are owned, and people tend to think they can do whatever they want with their "property"
So feral feral artwork is bad. A creature on all fours having intelligence is fine but still should be wary of who you attract. Furries in general have this issue that should always be addressed.

This isn't a binary "good vs bad". It's addressing media we consume. And yes, cub inherently has more problems because at the minimum it's fetishizing age and you can only get that from certain places.

Also my point still stands on the human FBI thing. It'd be interesting to learn why SFW humans are fine but NSFW humans aren't okay. Outside looking in, it would appear be to avoid Drawn CP/CP lovers to "accidentally" draw young human kids in sexual situations being uploaded to this site which could cause major problems for obvious reasons!
Kxxxcxxx2
4 years, 1 month ago
TIL drawings of fake creatures is child porn.

Get over yourself. Unwatched.
Koorivlf
4 years, 1 month ago
Thanks for unfollowings
Kxxxcxxx2
4 years, 1 month ago
No problem. Thanks for proving yourself to be a gigantic hypocrite. Enjoy genital mutilation, you fucking freak.
RawrWoofMeow
4 years, 1 month ago
I'm getting pretty close to un-watching you, mang. This is like saying gore is not good in real life, so you shouldn't draw it. It's all fantasy. Nothing drawn here is real.
Kumbartha
4 years, 1 month ago
I find it funny he is complaining about cub art while drawing cut up balls and sheats XD People are so funny. I wonder if he is doing it himself to other people or animals (sarcasm)
Koorivlf
4 years, 1 month ago
Read top comment about the gore thing

I haven't draw cut off balls and sheath but thanks for trying.

Although you do bring up the point that I brought up in the comment way above. My intention with that silly pic was that they were self-contained copies of the sheaths or were the sheaths with teleporter rings. Without making that more clear, I brought a crowd of people who thought I liked fetishizing cutting body parts off. Which I have no intention of ever doing.
So, in the future, I will have to try and find better ways of showing that information if I can.

Although to be clear about cutting off any body part, again, a therapist should be consulted about those sorts of kinks. I don't think equating cub/gore artwork with body part removal is the same in this situation.Randomly cutting off parts of your body is 99.9% bad(cutting off toe bad, cutting of hair is whatever), fetishizing the removal itself is also bad(a kink of cutting off hair is harmless if it's only done to one's self), but you do have people with gender dysphoria or those who require body part removal from issues like war or illnesses. Demonizing the "loss" of a body part or the detached body part itself is not helpful and you probably shouldn't use that as an argument.
Kumbartha
4 years, 1 month ago
same goes for every movie in which someone is being killed, those could also make people do things.. and books, and games, and everything else. and if you take all that away there still is the mind of the people that coudl make them do things. You may see it like you want. But sorry, it makes no sense. Because with your logic, rock n roll is bad too, every movie is bad, every game is bad, every book is bad, even the bible because it provides description of torture. It is just to simple to say : this leads to this. You can consider cub art bad, yes, but hell you draw stuff that also makes other people question your sanity. Ever seen it this way? XD I can assure you , your latest pic is getting more people scream obout it than about Cub art.

btw. I am sure the FBI would also be interested into your genital cutting art XD
Koorivlf
4 years, 1 month ago
Quick side note:  The discussion about why media uses murder for solutions/entertainment, what messages music/books/videogames/etc brings to its listeners, and old ideas that are unchallenged even to this day are actually good discussions to have. Lots of music, movies, games, books, religions, etc can be argued to be bad, especially when people take in that information and just roll with it rather than criticizing it or examining it



My stuff should be criticized too and I do that very often if you know me or my twitter.
Again, thanks for trying
Kumbartha
4 years, 1 month ago
To many out there you are considered an animal fucker the same way you think cub art artists are pedos. Just because of your art. Are you able to self reflect?  
  No. you are not. otherwise you would have not written this shit just to proclaim yourself a "good caring citizen"
Koorivlf
4 years, 1 month ago
The key component to furries is that they have humanity. The word Anthropomorphic is used for that reason. The body parts are different but the underlying connection between humans and furries are the same That's why feral with it's real feral definition is generally loosely based or unconnected to furry, because there is a lost of humanity. The desire to fuck an animal rather than fucking a person with different bits.
With this knowledge, it's easy to explain to someone why wanting to fuck a hot daddy dragon isn't the same as fucking your pet lizard.

With cubs, there isn't the same logic you can use. If cub is just a drawing of a young furry child, and we treat such draws like we would with any other child media, then that's fine. But cub is used for sexual purposes directly related to the youth aspect. So if we're going by the definition that cub is the kink in which one likes a young creature that are anthropomorphic, you can't fall back on the same logic. Giving a puppy humanity just translating to representing a child, so that means you want to fuck a child. It's not size different because you couldn't switch it out with a dwarf without losing the kink for many people. It's not the mentality of a cub because that would be the mentality of a child that you happen to want to fuck. Etc, etc.

So yes, I am able to reflect. There are better examples of my art to point at if you want to go down the "you do bad stuff too" rabbit hole. In those cases still I make it a point to make sure people don't just fap to such things unquestionably, because there is a real argument to be made that fantasy is just fantasy. But JUST saying it's a fantasy doesn't address issues that come with using fantasies in the first place

I'm not proclaiming myself to be a good citizen, I'm specifically saying it to make sure it's known I'm not ok with what's going on lol. There is a difference in that.

Kumbartha
4 years, 1 month ago
You are just making execuses for being an animal fucker
(that is the same logic as you claim cub artists are pedos) ;)


I have said what I have to say : From your logic, everyone is possibly comitting the crime they draw.. Gore artists are murderers, cub artists are pedos, you are an animal fucker, Writer of pulp fiction are possible criminals etc.



you cannot whitewash what you are doing and claim others to be evil this way. Grow up

Your  journal and point of view is a perfect example of bigotry . This should be taught in classes XD
Koorivlf
4 years, 1 month ago
-*Posts gif of point flying over your head*


- You could make it a sign of concern and something to address rather than an outright crime. Yes, gore is not something you should say is good, cub artist are actually pedos with the definition of pedo being " sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object", refer back to very top statement, haven't read it but if it's themes discuss certain topics then there can be a discussion around said topics


-"you cannot whitewash what you are doing...", "...perfect example of bigotry."
... ... ...oh ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...You're really out of touch dude. Please seek a therapist.
FaceRollNameHere
4 years, 1 month ago
This might’ve be asked already, but I didn’t read those other posts. tl;dr

Why do you get on here at all then? Obviously cub art is the majority. Why be here when it’s literally everywhere? Or do you just get off on being a self-righteous asshat? Because if you are or not, you are insulting almost everyone on this site.
Kxxxcxxx2
4 years, 1 month ago
Probably to be a contrarian loser like he's already shown himself to be via journals.
Koorivlf
4 years, 1 month ago
Aren't you suppose to not be following me anymore?
Koorivlf
4 years, 1 month ago
It's smart to not put all your eggs in one basket and this is a free furry site to store/pass around pictures

That's not to say one should put their stuff everywhere, some baskets are best left untouched. I was putting my stuff here before I really knew the extent of the cub stuff and had looked into the subject as a whole. I generally check this site when I happen to remember it exists, otherwise I have postybirb automatically posts to this site as well as a few others. It's not that helpful for my stuff to be here but it's also not harmful currently.

I honestly want pedos to seek therapy if they continue to look at drawn CP and for those in the cub community to advocate for seeking therapists/not letting clear signs of trouble slip by. This isn't therapy to remove the kink but to keep accountability because such material clearly attracts certain types of people. If it happens to genuinely change someone's kink/behavior then that's better but not inherently necessary. That can be hard to get people to do due to cost and time but it is something worth striving for.

Also, I personally have never had a convo with a pedo that wasn't basically
"Drawings are fine and mean nothing -> ok but kids are hot and I NEED IT SOOO MUCH -> Therapy is whatever and as long as the kid is fine it's whatever" Bonus points for those that advocate for a younger age fucking limit, thus implying "as long as the kid is fine" is using a different definition than most of the population.

I have no illusions of being more self-righteous than anyone else, expect maybe those who like coconut and bees. I just have no tolerance for acting like what's being done here and how it's handled is good/done well. I'd honestly be happy if you showed me that the cub community takes active measures to ensure people actually only stick to pictures and understand the implications about such media being used. That'd make me feel better at night cause publicly and privately I have not see such actions really be taken.

Also you're expecting me to care if I insult those who I see as people doing a bad action without attempting to make it ok/good. I let many things slide but failure here means someone could be taken advantage of, someone who also happens to be a kid. Sorry if it seems cold to say I don't care if a pedo who isn't going to change or help the community stops following my artwork because they know I'm disappointed in them/dislike them.
FaceRollNameHere
4 years, 1 month ago
I get what you’re saying. Though it may come as a surprise to you, a hell of a lot of people that fap to cub aren’t pedos. I can speak for myself and a handful of friends when I say that it isn’t the case. Most of us just see it as another kink. Size play is fine. Cub is just another version of it. Looking at this stuff doesn’t automatically mean one wants to sexualize And abuse actual children. Quite frankly I find pedos horrible people and I think they should be castrated. But as for how this site goes or any other one, I won’t come in and disrupt them or insult them by calling them something they probably aren’t. Ifbyou have any proof that one individual is actually a pedo, it’d be best to point at that one guy.

tl;dr I get what you’re saying, but you are making a gross overgeneralization.
Koorivlf
4 years, 1 month ago
You can have size different without the use of children. I like size difference too and at no point did it come to mind to use children for said size difference because the boundary of who is fuckable applies here. What you wrote is like saying grabbing an anthro-dog's dick and grabbing a irl dog's dick is the same thing. It's the same body part but it has RADICALLY different implications. THAT is a general overgeneralization to act like cub is just size difference and not the consumption of pedo artwork

Pedos shouldn't be castrated, they do need professional help and a culture in which they seek that help. Just to be clear, pedo means  " sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object". So you're asking all the cub people here, who view children animals as a sexual object, to be castrated lol
I'm assuming your using the pedo definition as someone who has raped an actual kid which they too shouldn't be castrated by they should be in jail or prevented from doing any of that in the first place.

I'm a shy person but I am very focal about issues, so yes, I will come in and say such things lol. Different strokes for different folks
FaceRollNameHere
4 years, 1 month ago
Whelp. Dunno what to say then tbh. You do you.
gayrights2018
4 years ago
guys he still lets you follow him if you get off on cub it's fine
Koorivlf
3 years, 11 months ago
That's not a good lesson to take away from this I have to say
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