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Alright folks...the question is simple. Is it wrong to use other folks ych poses as pose refs. Like if you get a commission and the person sends you a ych as a base for the pose....do you use it? As a commissioner do you use others ych pose to explain what your looking for?

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KoCorona

4 years, 2 months ago

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I don't know, but I would like to think it would be okay. Cuz you're not tracing it, and poses aren't original concepts. It's weird yeah, but grey area?

SynnfulTiger

4 years, 2 months ago

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@ KoCorona

Its honestly not even grey area you can 100% use a pose nomatter where you see it. ^.^

KoCorona

4 years, 2 months ago

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@ SynnfulTiger

I mean yeah, but I guess I'm looking at it from a "this artist is selling this" view point. I've always felt that they should get that business if the commissioner wanted it.

SynnfulTiger

4 years, 2 months ago

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@ KoCorona

I get you. Im just pointing out that a pose cant be owned. ^,^

bax590

4 years, 2 months ago

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A refs a ref eh?

Riverrat

4 years, 2 months ago

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I'll admit I have used other people's art on several occasions to help get my point across of what I'm looking for, but I always just use it for concept not to have someone copy it with my character

SynnfulTiger

4 years, 2 months ago

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Simple answer. Nobody can own a pose. Aslong as you dont trace art then take any pose you like from anywhere you like. If ppl say you cant they're talking out of their butts. No exceptions all poses are fair game.

Baybea

4 years, 2 months ago

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So long as you are not making a direct copy of said YCH but doing your own 'spin', I don't see any issues.

If you are anxious about it, you can always attribute your inspiration/source.

Chelsea

4 years, 2 months ago

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You can be inspired by it, and draw it that way, there are no copyright or rules on body position.
But, it should be your work, and your lines, as if you superpose both work, the lines shouldn't match, because then it would be tracing.

To sum up: Drawing similar pose is fine, tracing is not.
the majority of artist draw over video porn and such, i mean, wooden mannequin have been in existence for longer than the internet, and if you go to an art school, they teach you to draw bodies using real life model posing for you or photograph.

Just don't make the final work a carbon copy of the other artist work that is xD put your own twist in it.

NettFox

4 years, 2 months ago

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I agree with those saying it’s ok. You can’t copy right a pose in artwork. Though same point do your own spin on it so it’s not an overly similar idea. Though commissioner is one you need to verify it with. Though a YCH is basically a life less body where it’s ok Provided you aren’t tracing. Poses are pretty common to come by.

SeleneNightfang

4 years, 2 months ago

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As someone that just sent off a commission request, I'd thought about this myself yesterday. I came to my conclusion that doing such just feels wrong to me. While oyhers are right that you can't own a pose, to me it feels like 'I really want this YCH but can't afford it. Lets try and get it cheaper from another artist.' Its just a bit too morally gray for my tastes.

NaughtyBox

4 years, 2 months ago

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You can't really "steal" a pose cuz one can't really "own" a pose
I guess so long as you're not outright tracing it and just referencing the pose but drawing the anatomy and forms yourself it should be fine
There's only really a finite amount of ways you can really pose the human body anyways

Etis

4 years, 2 months ago

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I often use existing art to explain what I want, but I never used YCH bases for it. Not because anything is wrong with it, just searching for them is more difficult. But as long as you don't ask to actually use it as a base and only want a similar pose - nothing wrong with it.

DansLittleFurs

4 years, 2 months ago

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There's only so many ways you can bend and twist a body. No matter what you draw, somewhere in the terabytes of porn out there a pose will match.

BunnyFoxglove

4 years, 2 months ago

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@ DansLittleFurs

I dunno, I've seen famous artists who seem to find new ways to bend a body. Because, who needs anatomy amirite? :P

bulletcrow

4 years, 2 months ago

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Unless the pose is wildly unusual, there shouldn't be a problem. Most poses we see probably came from nude photographs somewhere.

SynnfulTiger

4 years, 2 months ago

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@ bulletcrow

Nomatter how unusual it is you cant own a pose period. There is absolutely no grey area. People get so misinformed by this.

bulletcrow

4 years, 2 months ago

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@ SynnfulTiger

That's good to know. By the way, art classes in college said tracing photographs is fine as long as you make some percentage of changes. You can't duplicate a work and call it yours, but you can take elements.

Springbun

4 years, 2 months ago

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the pose itself isn't wrong. what is wrong is tracing or deliberately doing this at the exact same time as an artist is doing it with the intent to compete.

HavenInc

4 years, 2 months ago

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Personally, I refuse to use other peoples art as reference. I will take the pose and go looking for RL refs to use, that is in a similar poses. If yer tracing the YCH, that's an issue, but yeah, as a few people already said, you can't really own a pose, so it should be okay as long as yer not copying it line per line.

Smolfoks

4 years, 2 months ago

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If using pose refs was a crime every artist would be in jail ;0

KNIFE

4 years, 2 months ago

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What everyone else has said.
Poses are not copyrightable UNLESS you copy the features of the model then yeah no. But the pose and basic shape of the character you're fine!