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sashtrash

Kinda Important: Commissions & Patreon Update


Heyoo everyone, long time no see!

So i got some updates for y'all about what im up to and how things have/will change.


COMMISSIONS
As a lot of you know i opened up my new commission forms this past August, and it was super well received! Actually maybe a bit too well received.. because i got buried in 150+ comms. Since im just one man, progress is slow, and ive been chipping away at that number since then.
My plan right now is to stay closed and continue knocking out as many that were submitted as i can until next year. Once 2020 hits, any commissions left in queue will be deleted. After that, since demand for my art is so high that i cant physically do it all in a timely manner, ill go back to only taking a certain amount of comms per month. Maybe open 20 spots or something each month.
Im sorry to all those that submitted forms when i opened and its taking months to get to you, i just cant do everyones commission at once! Also sorry to those that may not get theirs done this year. Im doing my best and stressing hardtime over trying to get all this shit done and trying to appease everyone..

PRICES
I raised em! My art has improved a good bit since the last time i changed prices, and lately ive been feeling really underpaid for my work. So i raised em to a point i feel more comfortable with. That and like 1000 people always tell me to raise em for various reasons, so i have conceded.
For those of you that have submitted a commission form and are waiting, the new prices will affect you. I realize this may be bad for y'all that have budgets, but i seriously couldnt keep going with those old prices, it was killing me. So if i get to your name in queue and you cant afford what you previously wanted, im more than happy to change what you wanted and do whatever you can afford instead. If you wanna drop the commish entirely, thats fine by me as well, no shame in wanting to not spend money on furry porn haha

PATREON
I changed some things around so that i wont be drawing sketches (or anything) for any tier. It was taking up a looot of time and sanity from me every month. Everything else has remained the same.

This info is for any/all patrons that are subbed, and will not go into affect til next year when i change commissions to be monthly.
For anyone that doesnt know, i have 3 tiers; $5 $10 & $20. Subbing to the 10 or 20 tier gets you discounts off any commission up to 15%, as well as the ability to skip to the front of my commission queue. So if you're a patron, just let me know and i pretty much have to do your commission ahead of everyone elses at the start of the month! And no cheating, cus i can go check names and emails to see if you actually are a patron lol

So if you plan on commissioning me a good bit, my Patreon may be a good spot for you if you want discounts and priorities, and just to support me in general~!
https://www.patreon.com/sashtrash

YCH's
Gotta say, i love doin em.. and i want to start making more, possibly one every weekend. Starting next weekend (if i remember) ill be throwing up a ych. It'll go up Sunday, and bids will be open throughout the week, or until max bid is hit. Then the next Saturday ill draw it up, make some happy customers, and repeat! Will be a nice way for me to make some extra dosh and do something outside of commissions to keep myself from going too crazy.



So thats about it for now!

TLDR:
- im still working on submitted commission forms
- my new prices will affect those already in queue
- once 2020 hits, any leftover forms will be deleted (sorry)
- patreon is great if ya commission me more than once
- ych's are gonna be a weekly thing


Thanks for bearing with me guys, ive been getting a lotta questions about various things lately so i hope that answers most of em. Any more questions please let me know! <3
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Added: 4 years, 6 months ago
 
Fuzzyballs
4 years, 6 months ago
Why would someone say they would want to pay more money for commissions ? -just curious question-
Epsilion
4 years, 6 months ago
Because they feel the amount of time and effort the artist puts into the work exceeds what the artist is charging.

While cheap commissions are nice, they aren't really sustainable, especially if the artist is putting a lot of hours into a particular piece. At a certain point, additional time going into a commission is going more towards the quality of the piece, not the artist trying to learn a process - and therefore has more value, and should demand a higher price.

Some commissioners want artists to be successful if they're doing timely high-quality artwork, and may suggest the artist raise their prices (and give a tip in addition to the base cost) since it makes it more likely the artist will continue doing art, and helps reduce the workload (less people would take a $60 commission than a $10 commission of the same quality, for example)

If the artist is overworked and underpaid, there's not much value in taking commissions, and they may chose to stop taking them, or stop doing art completely.
Fuzzyballs
4 years, 6 months ago
If you say so,

-take this comment as just my opinion-
but, it just sounds like to me that this is to weed out anyone with a lower budget of funds, and giving the richer customers a full monopoly over the artist.  
Epsilion
4 years, 6 months ago
I mean, nobody is entitled to the artist's work, and if they feel it needs to be a higher price to justify the time they put into it, then that's what they need to do.

If I offered you a 50 hour a week job making $2/hr flat, would you take it? what if you had an offer available for a $20/hr job?
Would you give that $2/hr job 100% of your effort?
Would you feel satisfied with your life?
Would you be able to pay the bills, if you took a break?

There are plenty of artists who offer dirt cheap commissions, and their quality generally reflects that, or they take a very long time to complete them, since there's really no incentive.
Fuzzyballs
4 years, 6 months ago
Do you have examples of some artist ? I'm just not about to pay that crazy amount of money for a drawing of porn.

That's insane to have pay so much for something when outside its demographic following, it's not going to be excepted at all. I can't  exactly do anything more then fap and post it, it's not really going anywhere after that.
Comparing this to an actual job doesn't make this automatically justified. What you think patrons and donations are for. If the artist is feeling over work, just set limit of how many you can take. You don't have to keep rocketing prices just weed out anyone with lighter pockets to spend I have a family and bills to pay to. Not everyone can just drop $150 for each commission just saying.
-again this is just how feel, please don't get offended over it. I just don't agree on these terms is all.
Merlin
4 years, 6 months ago
artwork is a luxury. always has been. it's something completely unnessisary. i cant eat it. i cant fix my house with it, or power my computer. you have a family to feed. and you want sash to just spend all their time making artwork without being able to feed their own? you want someone to spend YEARS sharpening their talents to produce artwork that is good, artwork YOU desire, and then spend their days NOT being able to pay for their food, house, internet? patreon and donations? you want them to live off breadcrumbs, off charity, so that you can benefit from their labor? do you even have any idea how much time it takes to create a single picture? it can be DAYS. and you want them to spend literal days, hours and hours every day, for LESS than 150?

i am not attacking you. but you're foolish. if you value artwork so much that you think it should be affordable for everyone to buy, not only are you saying artwork has value that you dont want to pay for, you are saying that the artist should be the one to suffer. artists have a right to expect fair compensation for their work. if people demand artists exist, that artists fill the void in their life for creative expression, then artists should get paid to do so. if it takes me five hours to draw a picture you comissioned me to draw, i am getting paid for my five hours. and it's on YOU to pick something you can do more with than fap to and post.
QuickRabbit
4 years, 6 months ago
No offense since I'm not a commissioner of yours, but switching prices midway through a batch seems like you went through the list, picked all your friends out and did their work first, then upped your prices to charge the people you don't know more money

But your art is still good so I admire the balls you have to do it
sashtrash
4 years, 6 months ago
its funny cus you got about 0% right with that comment lmao
QuickRabbit
4 years, 6 months ago
Oh, you don't have any balls? Lmao
Zazel
4 years, 6 months ago
This is really disappointing news. I think it's great you're charging more for commissions since you're old prices were very low, and the new prices are still more than fair. You really have greatly improved, and still have a lot of potential! You seem like you're trying your best and you didn't mean to take on this much responsibility. But, it's really agitating that you waited so long to say anything about this, and made this Youtuber apology level journal where you advertise your Patreon and let us know you are getting tired of commissions but will be doing YCHs (aka multiple people pay you just as much to have you draw whatever scenario you want) every week starting now and that you're really just doing it for some extra money. And, really the sucky-est thing of all is that you'll be deleting your commission queue just to start a new one the same month, so everyone who had to scrimp and save and sit on the money all this time, did it for nothing.

"TLDR:
- I might get to you but you have no way of knowing so hold on until January to find out
- if I do get to you I'm going to gouge you
- I already finished all my friend's and patron's commissions and I want to get back to doing more commissions for them because it's more fun
- pay me extra money monthly for a chance to actually get your commission done
- I'm promising something new I'm not sure I'll be able to keep up with in the middle of letting everyone know I took on too much responsibility."

I'm sorry this is so mean, but this is incredibly frustrating, this commission was pretty important to me and I feel like I just wasted months for nothing. Just because you didn't take money up front doesn't mean people in your queue didn't invest anything into this. I know you have to think of your mental and physical health, and pay the bills while trying to not get burnt out, but so does everyone else in the world and I'm sure many people in your queue sacrificed a few of these things just to be there. I hope everything works out well for you because you are very talented, (especially your character design skills) and I hope everyone that was disappointed is able to move past this experience, and not have it remind them every time they see something new from you.
Cam
Cam
4 years, 6 months ago
Increasing prices is good! Furry artists generally work for too little money, which contributes to burnout and artists bailing on commissions even after being paid. Changing the price after already giving people commission slots might be a bit controversial but you haven't taken their money yet so they can just cancel if it's now too expensive for them.
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