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Reizinho

Before starting to draw, I wanna get something off my chest.

I'm supposed to be drawing now, but I'll say something real quick. A friend of mine left the site after being harrassed here for the most stupid reason ever. It seems like people were picking on him for actually not drawing cub porn. Really, people? What is wrong them? If someone doesn't draw what you like, there's plenty of fish in the sea. There's Inkbunny, Baraag, Hiccears and Pixiv. Why put a person who is known for drawing clean art in such an embarrassing situation, not to add annoying?

I do like cub and I draw it, but I'm not crazy for it. I wouldn't force an artist to draw it. Although some people have, in the past, pressured me to draw a lot of stuff. Nowadays, I'm declining stuff I don't like to draw, but that doesn't mean people are being any less pressing. I just gotta continue steadily declining those. But different people have different degress of tolerance. And I figure that my friend wasn't just asked to draw things. If he used the word "harrassed", I fear he was also attacked for not complying.

This isn't a new thing. This used to happen at conventions too, if I'm not mistaken, with people pressing con-artists to draw stuff they don't like to draw. It's a manifestation of that old problem, of people not respecting boundaries. Inkbunny isn't just a cub site. People come here to post all kinds of furry art. And Inkbunny has rules and a set of principles that we have all agreed with when we made accounts here. If people have been harrassing you, there's a wide array of ways to deal with the problem, as Inkbunny allows you to "ban" people from you account, so you become invisible to them and impossible to contact. While you are it, report them as well.
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Zenobius
2 months ago
I'm sorry to hear that about your friend, it looks like everyone and everything are coming full circle in one way or another. Whatever happened to: "Let people draw what they like and move on"? I had thought that at least people over at IB would know how terrible buisybodies are that try to get you draw different stuff- but then again looking at life in general, self-reflection isn't exactly people's strongest point.

Absolutely no-one deserves to be harrassed like that. Again, I'm sorry to hear this. *snuggles you tightly*
dmfalk
2 months ago
Harassment is actually against the site's stated philosophy.....
Zenobius
2 months ago
In that case I'm surprised they didn't take action and let the staff handle it.
dmfalk
2 months ago
They should have.

d.m.f.
Reizinho
1 month, 4 weeks ago
*is snuggled too tightly and wets himself*
Ameinias
2 months ago
No one should be harassed. That one's easy.

Should IB allow artists who won't draw cub though? Sounds like an easy question, right? Of course they should - let people draw what they want. Of course... what happens if the artists who doesn't draw cub become a majority? What happens if most of the active users don't like it, and perhaps even are morally against it? So that one's less easy. Though that's up to IB to decide - not individual users.
dmfalk
2 months ago
The Inkbunny Philosophy that IB is a furry site, first and foremost. It just happens to be the only one at present that allows cub porn, which it does through a complicated arrangement that restricts human/furry porn as a compromise. They'd otherwise be open to all furry art without restriction, were it possible. That it was founded by cub artists is incidental.

d.m.f.
(Been here too long...?)
Ameinias
2 months ago
And that, my dear ELO, is great. :)
dmfalk
2 months ago
That IB tries to be an open place, or that the founders were themselves cub artists, or me having been here too long? :O

d.m.f.
(With a tendency to be a bit overly silly at times... ;) )
Reizinho
1 month, 4 weeks ago
It should. If we isolate ourselves from the world, people will continue distancing themselves from us. If we are in the same place, we will learn to cohabitate. And the site is founded on principles that would disallow such thing from happening. If you advocate for the removal of any kind of furry art from here, including cub, you are already acting against the philosophy.
Ameinias
1 month, 4 weeks ago
I don't advocate anything. The moment one starts advocating something is sadly often the moment one stops thinking. Instead one goes to war to protect one's position. I think it's better to just stay look at and think about the problem.
BengalKat
2 months ago
I don’t really get harassed by that. But I know what you’re feeling right now. I mean on Inkbunny, anyone can do what they want, not forcing them to do on things you don’t want to do.
dmfalk
2 months ago
IB was meant to be free of the harassment that pervaded FA. It was a big deal when this site went public 9 years ago...

d.m.f.
Reizinho
1 month, 4 weeks ago
Harrassment on FA is still a big deal today.
dmfalk
1 month, 4 weeks ago
Sadly (or is it, not surprisingly), I'm not all that surprised... FA hasn't really changed since I left (or to be correct, went into lurk mode- I need to keep the account active if i want to see mature/adult art & stories), 9 years ago.

I'm happier here, on IB. :)

d.m.f.
Reizinho
1 month, 4 weeks ago
Correct.~
HeavyheartHare
2 months ago
It's one of the only porn categories I like. I hate the fact there's so little of it. But now I'm sober, I realize my opinion is shit. So eh, whatever. To each their own.
dmfalk
2 months ago
It's important; it's also important to be just as much a site for non-cub furs, too. We're all meant to be here. :)

d.m.f.
HeavyheartHare
2 months ago
Nope.
Reizinho
1 month, 4 weeks ago
This would be my cue to say something supportive, but... you don't like when I do that, so yeah. >.< I still feel bad that your life is so rough, dude.
tapstnt
2 months ago
Ppl should treat others as they want to be treated.  And they shouldn't treat others how they don't want to be treated.

Since the cub community knows how it feels to be harassed and driven away from places, you would hope they'd avoid doing that same thing to others.

But some people are just shitty and cub fans/artists can be shitty too.
Reizinho
1 month, 4 weeks ago
Shitty people exist everywhere. I also talked to the artist and they said that he did block keywords, but that didn't work because people don't always tag their stuff correctly. So, there was plenty of untagged cub porn. He was trying to be tolerant, like, a don't like don't click person. But people kept forcing it on him, either actively (presumably via PM or comment) or passively (by not tagging the work as it should be tagged).
SkunkID
1 month, 4 weeks ago
This...honestly very strange. On so many levels, it's a kind of reversal that, probably doesn't help other furs that do want to draw and commission cub and chibi looking characters, but are also polite enough to understand that no all other artists are willing to draw those things.
Reizinho
1 month, 4 weeks ago
We are on the same boat then. nwn
coolperez8
1 week, 4 days ago
That's sad.
Reizinho
1 week, 3 days ago
Indeed. u.u
coolperez8
1 week, 3 days ago
:(
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