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Tricksta

no. I SAID NO!

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Don't be like this guy, draw your own shit and color that!
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Added: 1 month ago
 
Harleking
1 month ago
A no is a no. And even if the colourings aren't bad, he/she/it should respect this decision.
NaughtyRobby
1 month ago
Is he stealing your art? You should talk to a admin about this
TheLazyFable
1 month ago
No fun :/
MasterChief2554
1 month ago
Can someone fill me in?
NaughtyPup
1 month ago
Tricksta told people not to color his sketches and post them, and of course somebody did exactly that.
MasterChief2554
1 month ago
Huh.Also wasnt the second one already coloured and the such?
Tricksta
1 month ago
Yup and posted when the guy decided to color it his way.
Olly
1 month ago
You can report these and get them taken down. No one is allowed to post work or edit work of others without explicit permission from the original artist. Put in a ticket for it.
TheSuperProfessor
1 month ago
It's not even that good. Like, so wrong yo.
GaruuTooncatPopka
1 month ago
actually its pretty good, and i mean really damn good. if only he got permissions
Salvychu
1 month ago
Coloring on it doesn't really fit for this.
Vladimir
1 month ago
People never listen lol
LaIsabelle
1 month ago
At least they put in the proper credit. It's no big deal, shame you don't like it
NaughtyRobby
1 month ago
That’s not the point. If the artist didn’t give permission then he shouldn’t post it
LaIsabelle
1 month ago
I'm more of the opinion that you lose sole control over your art the moment you post it on the internet. This case just proves my point. I always council maintaining a tolerant policy as long as proper credit is given.

Then again that is just me. Tricksta is free to pursue whatever path to engage with this as they please.
Tricksta
1 month ago
I think they got e621.net for that.
Vladimir
1 month ago
You can remove it from that website, too.
CamKitty
1 month ago
If you don't think that site would not remove it if you asked you don't know that site
BreakingCloud
1 month ago
Some of you guys are missing the point. It's not just that the artist said no, it's that his Patreon rewards depend on the monetary income for the artist themselves to color these images in. Having other people color it in for him completely defeats the purpose and puts dents in his living wages.

Regardless, when an artist says "no", just don't fucking do it.
Birdpup
1 month ago
Hope you reported the guy!
omochakitty
1 month ago
that's a big "OOOOF"
Been on the tail end to something similar like this, found a 3d model of a character i made and sell on my sketchfab page.
i make it clear if you are buying my models you may not port them over to source film maker, unless i have given you permission.

Low and behold i find 3 of my characters being ported by someone who i did not say they could and saw a massive decrease in my sales that where pretty okay until this incident.
also was never credited.

I want to say "atleast they credited" but regardless you dont ever post work of someone elses unless you are teamed with them or granted permission period.

So yeah, when someone says no, it means no.
Tricksta
1 month ago
Sad you had to go through such an experience. If only there was a way to avoid such conflict.
omochakitty
1 month ago
Eh, good ol threat of sueing sometimes helps o.~
or slamming a copyright claim since they did purchase the item through a third party that copyrights it for ya.

but yeah, sorry your dealing with this kinda stuff.
hope it gets resolved
CreamPup
1 month ago
Well. At least give you credits. But if did not asked your permission first, indeed is a lack of consideration...
roninhunt0987
1 month ago
Wait what happened
MooseJam
1 month ago
Tricksta told people not to color his sketches and post them, and of course somebody did exactly that.
roninhunt0987
1 month ago
i see thank you for letting me know.. O.o is tricksta taking administration action on the pics now
roninhunt0987
1 month ago
O.o uh nevermind its gone now
MooseJam
1 month ago
Guess he did take action and got it.
roninhunt0987
1 month ago
mmhmm
KushHeadFievel
1 month ago
Not a bad coloring job, but if you said NO, they should have colored something else.
CritterClaws
1 month ago
Maybe deal with this direct instead of trying to get your white knights to fight your battles.
Tricksta
1 month ago
This is just a public service announcement.
CritterClaws
1 month ago
That's all well and good, but you're directing people to their account. You know you can get this fixed pretty easily with inkbunny mods, there's no need to send people over there to bully them when they aren't aware they are doing anything wrong.
Tricksta
1 month ago
I directed people to my art.
CritterClaws
1 month ago
Yes and their account.
Tricksta
1 month ago
It's not my fault it's posted there.
BizyMouse
1 month ago
Lmao
Tricksta
1 month ago
Correction "was" posted there.
Weiss
1 month ago
And how exactly are people being "sent" to do whatever it is?  Tricksta can't, and for that matter shouldn't, be responsible for whatever people choose to do
CritterClaws
1 month ago
People miss-use my content all the time. I don't go and post direct links to these people as it's a problem between me and one individual, not a problem for fans of me to deal with. Yes this person shouldn't have posted art that wasn't theirs, but publicly outing them is just starting drama and is childish.

To quote from inkbunnys documentation:

"Ranting and grand-standing about piracy, on both sides of the argument, can hurt your reputation and ours. Because the debate has been done to death and nothing has changed as a result of that arguing, it is not a welcome topic of discussion on Inkbunny. Making a spectacle out of legal action relating to piracy is also not welcome here."
Weiss
1 month ago
This isn't piracy, just someone going against the artist's wishes. It's a PSA from the artist to not to what this person did, absolutely NOTHING wrong with that. There was no rant, no asking for fans to deal with, just a warning. You're blowing everything way out of proportion
CritterClaws
1 month ago
It's exactly piracy, he's unhappy that someone is taking content that is what would be on his Patreon, and doing the same for the public for free. You can easily have a PSA without telling people who exactly they need to shout at. He may not have directly told people to harass this person but that is what happened in the end when you post a journal to your fans ranting about such things. At the very least it's unprofessional for someone trying to succeed on Patreon.
blackstrike
1 month ago
Tricksta can deal with this in any manner he chooses. It is HIS art, it is his problem. If you don't like it, GTFO. You don't have the right to tell other people how they should respond to theft of their hard work.
CritterClaws
1 month ago
He can deal with his own content on his own account how ever he likes yes. But when he directly links an account he's unhappy with to his followers, it is obvious that they would harass this person. So I have every right to tell him this is a bad thing to do when it is affecting people other than himself.
blackstrike
1 month ago
"Maybe deal with this direct instead of trying to get your white knights to fight your battles." And whose white knight you are? For somebody who claims a moral high ground, you've did every thing you accuse Tricksta of. He didn't invite anyone to "harass" the person who stole his art and did exactly what artist and creator explicitly forbid, he didn't invite any "white knights" to "fight his battles", nothing, but YOU are doing all of those things. You're harassing Tricksta, which, in this case, is a victim, you're being a "white knight" for the person who is in breach of copyright etc.

Do us all a favor and go away. You're an embarrassment.
CritterClaws
1 month ago
I don't think you understand the term white knight, his fans will spring on anyone (as they proved to do here) who he points at, regardless if he tells them to or not. I'm not a fan of the person he linked to, I'm trying to show that people with a large number of fans need to be really careful when dealing with topics such as this.

How is trying to stop an artist causing harassment to others, me harassing that artist. That's a bit of a stretch.

I don't understand how you can't agree, due to the way he handled this, someone was needlessly harassed, and inkbunny documentation is shown to agree with me too. I'm sure if you were the person who had unknowingly crossed Trickstar and had been harassed by his fans, you'd have a very different view.
Qwazzy
1 month ago
At this point it's pretty much a fact of life that when you highlight a user like this, somebody, if not multiple somebodies, are going to harass them. One isn't completely absolved from blame just because "I didn't tell them to do that".

Which is why it's encouraged to settle these matters in private first with the user in question, and if that fails, the moderators.
rajak
1 month ago
thats not nice. i even ask the artist, who draw a sketch for me, if someone else can color it XD

something like that happend one time to me, someone took a commission from me, edit it a little bit and post it here. wasn´t nice.

also cute avatar tricksta XD
Keeran
1 month ago
I feel like that falls under different territory when it comes to commissions. If you commission an artwork,  you do have the right as a commissioner to color the piece yourself, or hire someone to do it. It's like buying a Barbie Doll and painting all over it or buying a Nintendo Switch  and modding the software.
GreenReaper
1 month ago
You'd think so. But copyright law on derivative works is quite different to that leading to the doctrine of first sale. (And actually it can be a federal crime in the U.S. to deface or destroy a recognized work of art, although a mass-produced Barbie isn't quite what they had in mind.)

If there is a written agreement that you were creating a collective work you might be on stronger ground - but then, you could just get a more specific written agreement that you could get someone else to colour the commission ahead of time. And you really should, if you anticipate the need to, because it's a perfectly reasonable business to sell sketches "at cost" and make profit on the colouring that only the original artist can do, for those who are willing to pay.
Tricksta
1 month ago
Aaah I like this guy.
GreenReaper
1 month ago
Just be aware, the U.S. implementation of moral rights is limited compared to other countries. Your digital lineart would presumably not be protected under VARA because it does not exist in a single copy or limited, numbered edition.

But if you'd made numbered 3D printings of it, maybe those would? Especially if someone put bow-ties around the dicks. (But you might also attract undue attention from the species creators in that case, to protect their licensees...)
Keeran
1 month ago
Basically, Always get it in writing.
Charliemon
1 month ago
i missed the drama .. dammit work u ruin my online life
BenthekidZX
1 month ago
I'm pretty sure you're not the only artist tl have this problem. And it's probably just me, but I bet a lot of those who are lazy at art probably don't make their own for fear of success or failure. I used to be like that, back at my first stage of Deviant-Art. Whether or not my artwork would be known to the public wouldn't matter in the long run, because I wasn't well known at the time.
DigitalDomain123
1 month ago
I've dealt with one dude who colored over someone's commission I did for them with a shitty edit of his own oc for the coloring. Was pretty bad.
CamKitty
1 month ago
And look at you, not sending your fanbase at them. Well done
JacobMuken
1 month ago
Yeah, My account is full of art from another artist I traced and colored, but it's okay that I did it because I not only had the artist's permission, he would ask me to do it. No means no.
DownThePipes
1 month ago
Shame that this happened
Magzol
1 month ago
I have colored sketches I commissioned from artists with their permission, and would allow anyone to do so with my art. If someone commissions art from you, don't they have rights to modify it since you both technically 'own' it? Also I do not see why it would be a bad thing. I am not trying to be annoying, I am just curious as to why this bothers some artists.
XxrandomguyxX
1 month ago
Damn dude that sucks. Hope you don't feel too bad about it. I know that kind of thing can be rough. Sucks that you're one of the few guys out there who don't use paywalls and this is the payment you get. Hope you feel better about it soon. :/
buithebuizel
1 month ago
If they don't have your permission to take your art, color it, and spread it around then they shouldn't.

Don't you think it a bit immature to go out of your way and publically oust the poor fucker? Deal with stuff like this in a private manner, you don't need to put someone down just to prove a point, that's not cool.
Saglinger
1 month ago
This is why I always ask permission before posting anything another artist has done.

If only I were actually good at art.
skyboxmonster
1 month ago
Thought experiment:

someone downloads a furry picture from a website
They add color to it and save it to their local hard drive.
The modified picture is never uploaded publicly. or shared to friends privately.

Is that acceptable?
MomartikPSITIME
1 month ago
Dr. No means no baby~
FoxWorks
1 month ago
Well, at least they're set to hidden now.
Fleetpaw
1 month ago
I'm trying to figure out who did this
Morgenergy
1 month ago
Some plonker colored an old sketch of mine recently.

Didn't even ask.

Had that junk removed very quickly.
Tricksta
1 month ago
You did good buddy.
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