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Aval0nX

LOOOOL THIS IS HILARIOUS!!!

OMG THIS IS HILARIOUS!!!

https://imgur.com/XuOioCe
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Added: 4 years, 11 months ago
 
FoxyIbLover
4 years, 11 months ago
Well, whoever wrote this was very polite. =) Now if he only he would spell "canon" properly... LOL!

Do you have a Patreon account and is this an actual message from them? Or is this someone's idea of a joke?
Aval0nX
4 years, 11 months ago
This was their justification to "disable" MY account, even though I NEVER posted ANYTHING explicit, only cropped thumbnails of the characters, and yes, this is an official Patreon communication from their support team.
FoxyIbLover
4 years, 11 months ago
Yes, but did you link to anything explicit? Do you have examples?
Aval0nX
4 years, 11 months ago
I didn't, I would just say, the pics are in the sites where I normally post. I never posted ANYTHING explicit. EVER.
SplatterNok
4 years, 11 months ago
Maaaaaaybe this person KNOW you post this kind of thing.
he must know the kind of thing you does. > w>
"judge hey of what you are", he must be following you for sometime.
Aogami
4 years, 11 months ago
This is one of those things where you violated the spirit of the rule, but not the letter. While I think Patreon should allow that content in the first place, because they explicitly don't I would expect that the moderation team would see your page as an attempt to circumvent their rules and fund a project that violates their ToS. It sucks but you can't exactly say they're wrong. Paypal lets people set up recurring payments/subscriptions now, maybe you can use them instead.
trun
4 years, 11 months ago
Because paypal has never terminated accounts and withheld funds over porn.
Aogami
4 years, 11 months ago
if you aren't a retard and don't let them know what it's for they won't. I've used them for a literal decade with zero issues. Part of the problem Aval0nX is having with Patreon is that he's letting them know what he's doing with the money, and Patreon as a platform requires you to show them what you're making, so if you want to use them to make cub porn you have to lie and put up fake shit or make enough SFW content to keep the moderation satisfied that that's what the money is for. With Paypal you just have to be vague enough that they can't tell that's what it is
xephion
4 years, 11 months ago
just the cropped images are enought if the real content has anything they dont like. im pretty sure someone must have reported him but if you do care about your patreon just remove the images and just tell your patreons to find you online without posting links
xephion
4 years, 11 months ago
what i find funny the guy took the information out of the character wiki or something, like i said in the pm and in the reply above, if you do care about patreon at all just remove the cropped images and dont post anything related to them at all on the page just have it as tip jar or to post things that patreon are ok with. other subcribtion options are subcribestar but the webpage is kinda crappy
apdamien
4 years, 11 months ago
Yeah. They have their rules and they enforce them any time they notice something that violates them. It can be a real pain.

When I first created my Patreon account, I posted everything with a 30 day "early access" so that my patrons would get to see my material first, but anybody who is interested would eventually get to see it. Turns out that anything with sexually explicit content has to be "Patrons only" forever. I had to go back through about a year of postings and change everything explicit to "Patrons only" without "early access".

Still, I'm getting around $20 for each story, so it's worth it.

I'm not sure what you can do about this situation. I guess I'd contact them and ask about some options. Like, can you post just a link to content elsewhere (imgur, dropbox, etc.) with a brief description (not including any mention of sex, just the character's names. Or maybe just the species). See if they'll let you do that. Or... you might see if ko-fi will let you get paid for the type of content you want.

Hostgator seems happy to host my material, which includes sexual violence.You could get an account there. Or... let me check their terms of access. If there's no problem, I could give you a directory on my website to use for your pics.

But really, what's the point? You post everything on inkbunny at the same time as Patreon. I suspect that ko-fi might be your best bet if they allow "sexual violence".

Come to think of it... my stories involve sexual violence and Patreon hasn't given me any grief about that, as long as everything is "Patrons only." Of course, they could do the same thing to me 2 days from now.

Oh well.

Sympathy!!!
Dave2
4 years, 11 months ago
Fucking weak.
Patreon got no chill.
KevinSnowpaw
4 years, 11 months ago
i love how they police content OFF there site... fucking insanity lol
EvilDeath66X
4 years, 11 months ago
Yeah that's kinda fucked.
wollypegger
4 years, 11 months ago
Sadly, it's a reasonable excuse for them to do so.

They are in the business on making money.

To get this money, they need a means to electronically accept money from the various payment sources out there that can be used on the internet for acquiring merchandise or what not.

They have a reason to protect this ability so that it does not impact their operations.

If they did not have to deal with this, they would not care about content linking because it's making them money.
CoreyPeters163
4 years, 11 months ago
What a bunch of Assholes
BlastoTheHanar
4 years, 11 months ago
So, wait, does that means their policies even extend to artists that exclusively avoid underage content if they do pieces with clearly aged-up characters that are canonically underage in their source franchise? What about characters that start off underage but grow up to adulthood over the course of their series? How noodley could they potentially get with their rules interpretations?

Still, I doubt this ruling actually came as a surprise if you even vaguely knew anything about their guidelines. (To the best of my knowledge, Inkbunny is literally the only site of any kind that allows crops of and/or direct outside links to content against their own ToS.) Quite impressive you flew under the radar for so long, really. Not like you actually need your art up on Patreon for it to still serve its purpose, so that notice is more of just a funny inconvenience in the long run.
knolden
4 years, 11 months ago
Time to move to subscribe star. Kill this shitty thought police platform.
Netreek
4 years, 11 months ago
If on the page are only characters shown age 18 there should be no problem. Specially if you write: All characters are 18+ And of course they should look like it. You had that with some Hentai-Mangas, like Bondage Fairies. In the book itself you could find the note: All characters are 18+. for that. Miles is flying a PLANE. a FREAKING PLANE. I don't give a PLANE to a minor. So he is rather a young 18+ two tailed kitsune, who is able to fly on his own, if he wants to, but he can fly a PLANE. And for that you have to have a license which you only get with 18+.
rnixon
4 years, 11 months ago
You can solo powered aircraft at 16, just so's you know. :3

(Balloons and gliders at 14, and a full pilot's license is 17.)
Netreek
4 years, 11 months ago
I think that can also depend on the country. Still, that shows that Tails is older then 8. And he flys a plane. not a glider or powered aircraft. ;) That is a classical Plane doubledecker. And in RED. :) Most stylish.
lCie
4 years, 11 months ago
Pretty sure the concept of a license to fly would be lost to tails. First off, he can fly without any kind of aircraft. Second, I doubt the island he grew up on has any kind of rules about aircraft since he had the only one he built himself. Third, I doubt any of the sonic team has the qualifications to fly ultrasonic aircraft and space ships, but sonic x happened. Finally, most animals are considered full grown adults between 1 and 3 years old.
Neversoft
4 years, 11 months ago
Wow! XD lol
KNIFE
4 years, 11 months ago
Hi.
We read your mind and found thoughts we don't like. Since we don't like thoughts we don't like we're gonna ban your account and pass around that you're a bad person.
Also If you continue to post things and have thoughts we don't like we might have to come to your home and have a """talk""" with you about this.
It's for your own good and the betterment of the community.
Thank you for your cooperation and have a NICE day!
EvilDeath66X
4 years, 11 months ago
There seems to be a lot of that lately.
kat37
4 years, 11 months ago
Just Lol Yes banks are allowed to steal you money out of your account. Wealthy folks can buy their way into college without grades. You don't even have real porn and lol guessing they're upset you're breathing the wrong way
EvilDeath66X
4 years, 11 months ago
What bothers me most about this is that loli and shota are body types not age difference. People assume it's the latter but it's just a body type. To say that loli and shota involves minors exclusively is just wrong.
MarauderShields
4 years, 11 months ago
Yikes. Well, I guess there's always subcribe star
Alfador
4 years, 11 months ago
This is why I don't do Patreon. Well, that and the personal information leaks they've had. It's just not worth it.
apdamien
4 years, 11 months ago
Let me put my previous post in a different light:

DUMBASS PATREON
angel85
4 years, 11 months ago
saying you can't draw porn of Sonic characters even if they're aged up because they're minors in canon is like the hate speech laws that say you can't say racist sounding things no matter what the context is.  Since under those laws saying the statement "People who say 'gas the jews' are horrible" is a violation because it included the phrase "gas the jews."
OhgunBeastar
4 years, 11 months ago
This is an example of why I hate people who think fictionalized characters should be held to the same standard as real life children. This is coming from the same people who deliberately cover up the raping and molestation of minors that is occurring within the human and sex trafficking trade that they would rather embrace over the mere depiction of a fictional minor participating in any kind of activity. I swear the only kinds of drawings these people tolerate are stick figures and other shitty monstrosities. I have no respect for Patreon at this point and would honestly rather accept cryptocurrency donations and subscriptions so I can convert the profits in to real money.
theallseeingeye
4 years, 11 months ago
pathetic welp
Jawbreaker89
4 years, 11 months ago
Dont you love living in a world where fictional rabbits get equal protection as real human children.
MarcusKoopa
4 years, 11 months ago
Equal my ass. They actively hunt down the people who make the fictional rabbit porn but they only arrest the folks who CONSUME the real human children porn.
Cocoa879
4 years, 11 months ago
A la verga! :v qué sensibles patreon peor que mi ex
Fox1123
4 years, 11 months ago
Patreon needs to go fuck themselves in all honesty. Nothing but scum stealing money from hard working artists under the guise of "helping them" if you ask me, I mean what do they DO besides suck up a chunk of the cash anyway?
strikecentral
4 years, 11 months ago
If you have no content on your Patreon page that violates the terms, and have no links that do the same, then I would respond and ask them for specific examples of what content they are referring to. There's no way they can do this if you literally have nothing that violates the terms.
If they're just targeting you because of the content you have created and are known for on other sites and platforms, regardless of what's offered on your account with them, then it looks like they no longer want your money.
Xial
4 years, 11 months ago
Guess it's time to look at other services, like SubscribeStar.

They're so good at policing off-site content, and so fucking shit at actually understanding how to process card payments each month. Using an overseas payment processor causes a fraud lock with two of my financial institutions, and they've been told this. I am actually one state away from Patreon HQ, and they insist on using a processor in the UK.

It's time for folks to perhaps vote with their wallets and start leaving Patreon anyway.
Netreek
4 years, 11 months ago
Seems quite a bunch went from patreon to https://subscribestar.adult/
Xial
4 years, 11 months ago
Yeah. I dropped Patreon cold at the end of April, because I was sick and tired of having my debit cards locked for 'fraud'.
Hopefully more people will vote with their wallet fatteners and stop injecting money into Patreon's system.
gintsu
4 years, 11 months ago
I can smell that BS from here.
yufyuf
4 years, 11 months ago
"For example, survivor stories or fiction such as Game of Thrones or Lolita are allowed on Patreon."
Literally says fiction with a 12-year-old girl is allowed. These people don't know their own rules.
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