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Certain things I may never understand...

So fornthe last year ive been running one of the local kink organizations in town. And I often hear the phras3 "your kink is not my kink and that's ok" Pretty much don't knock something just because it's not your thing.

But understanding something is very different thing in general. I don't have to understand why a commissioner enjoys diapers to draw it for them, or the appeal of a baseball bat sized beating dick or growing to the size of skyscrapers.

But there's some stuff that does make me wonder "why?" and I don't think I will ever quite understand. Weirdly enough they have little to do with anyone's kinks though. What jollies your Roger jollies your Roger. Typically speaking don't be ashamed of that. What I don't get are certain practices from artists and buyers that I can't wrap my head around.

Example: Character adopts. Why is this a thing? Why is someone willing to pay to have a character they can use when they could come up with something of their own? It's different from someone asking an artist "can you design me a (blank)" as typically there some criterion for the creation and some part of the commissioners wants come through. I dont get it. I know when I make a unique character I want to keep using them... So I don't undeget and why you'd pay for someone else's results of character creation. If you can explain the appeal in a way id understand please do. I am all ears and would love thlo hear it.

I don't get why so many artists stream... Ok I understand why some do. It's a chance for people to hang out and talk to you while you work on stuff. It's a chance for newer artists to learn shit. But in my case I'd prefer not to stream because well me drawing is not entertaining. I'm not that talkative and I'm a godawful teacher. And I assumed there were more like me in that regard than not. Maybe I'm wrong because I see new streaks from everyone I want every login

So yeah. Just some stuff I don't understand. Nothing wrong with them. But I don't get it xp.

Have a nice day I'm open for commissions time for work

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ShaneAndCo

5 years, 3 months ago

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Example: Character adopts. Why is this a thing? Why is someone willing to pay to have a character they can use when they could come up with something of their own?

Because we cannot come up with something of our own.
Coming up with something, especially in regards to characters, requires a bit of artistic feeling to get details right or you could easily end up with a very generic-looking character.
So for the people that lack the ability to visualize fresh designs, adopts are a way to get characters that you can fall in love with on seperate merit.

That's how I ended up with Shane originally, and I evolved him into my main sona.

ReoDemonDays

5 years, 3 months ago

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@ ShaneAndCo

My initial response to that is it seems like selling oneself short to think they can't create a character if they cannot visualize or express that character in detail. That's the part I think an artist is there for (blatantly an opinion on my own part, not a fact) But as Grace pointed out artists who'll do that are few and far between (so maybe my opinion is wrong XP) So I can see why one might go the adopt route in that regard. And you say you evolved Shane into your sona, which is an important piece which I hadn't thought about, that once a character is yours you get to develop and change them in a way to make them your own. (I think it slips my mind since I've seen some very detailed adopts out there)

Anyhow, thank you for responding. I really appreciate it ^_^

GreenReaper

5 years, 3 months ago

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An adopt is convenient, being pre-made, and usually cheaper than a commission, because it's something the artist probably wanted to do anyway - maybe in bulk. Not everyone is as creative as an artist or wants the hassle and back and forth involved, they just see it and say "I want that!" Or maybe they just want to support the artist in drawing something they want.

Technically my own character is an adopt in a sense, because I found a picture of a norn that I liked on a Creatures site (and indeed, as I recall, the egg file to create that norn was up for adoption, to play in your own copy of the game). Of course I fleshed it out a bit more after that, but initially it was easier to say "I want this to represent me".

Streams are marketing and fill the needs of both artists and their fans. You are offering something the audience wants, personal contact, insight into your process, the ability to get a commission and see it done and give feedback in real time. These can be seen as positives for an artist, too - after all, who wants to go back and forth with corrections? Obviously not everyone offers all these things and some streams are more entertaining than others. You don't have to stream to be successful, any more than you need a dealer's table, and some might find it time-consuming and non-productive.

ReoDemonDays

5 years, 3 months ago

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@ GreenReaper

You get my attention bringing up convenience, because it took it reminds me of another trend, YCH's, which took me a while to wrap my head around. When I frame it that way I can start to see some of the appeal.

As for streaming..... I wanted to say something but you really had me at marketing, It's driving the awareness of your 'brand' etc. And since many of us are trying to make money this makes sense. I also hadn't thought how helpful it could be to get real time feedback, might keep that in mind at some point

thanks for the response ^^

GraceTheGoldenFurred

5 years, 3 months ago

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I can't speak for everyone, naturally, bur for me, the appeal of character adoptions is two-fold. First, it's a nice way to get a new character without having to go to the hassle of trying to find an artist who will draw a character from scratch. In my experience, the artists who are willing to draw from just a description or who will otherwise work with you to create a character are few and far between. So, for example, I recently purchased a horse character from someone because I've been wanting a horse for my collection and I was able to get one which was pretty close to what I'd had in mind. Simple, easy and everyone's happy.

It can be a heck of a lot cheaper, too. I've seen artists who charge at least double their usual prices to make a character from scratch. So adoptable characters can be handy for those people who simply can't afford to do that.

The second reason is, I admit, purely emotional. Every now and then, an artist will put one of their old characters up for adoption, for whatever reason, and if that character is one I'm fond of, adopting them is a nice way to keep them from vanishing completely. Maybe it's a bit arrogant on my part as well. But I think that a lot of people would rather see a beloved character be adopted by someone else than simply be scrapped.

As for streaming, I'm not an artist, so I can't speak to that, except that I know a lot of artists seem to like to stream because their client can be right there and they don't have to go through the hassle of sending WiPs when corrections can be made on the fly. Plus I think a lot of people just enjoy the social aspect of it. That said, I doubt you're the only one who prefers not to stream. Heck, I woudln't want to have people peeking over my shoulder while I'm trying to write.It's a moot point because nobody is going to be interested anyway, but I certainly understand the feeling.

ReoDemonDays

5 years, 3 months ago

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@ GraceTheGoldenFurred

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GraceTheGoldenFurred In my experience, the artists who are willing to draw from just a description or who will otherwise work with you to create a character are few and far between.[/q wrote:

Because I'm an artist who is willing to do that, I thought it wasn't that unusual (but that's because I'm thinking of myself as the norm, which is a habit I should fix probably)

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GraceTheGoldenFurred wrote:

The second reason is, I admit, purely emotional. Every now and then, an artist will put one of their old characters up for adoption, for whatever reason, and if that character is one I'm fond of, adopting them is a nice way to keep them from vanishing completely. Maybe it's a bit arrogant on my part as well. But I think that a lot of people would rather see a beloved character be adopted by someone else than simply be scrapped.

Hm. now that's a thought (and in no way arrogant) I don't think I've seen this happen myself, but it's very fair reasoning/

thank you for the response

xichan

5 years, 3 months ago

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@ GraceTheGoldenFurred

As an artist, and one who enjoys doing art socially, I can almost guarantee that a good part of why many artists stream is a social thing.

I have never streamed myself, but have dropped in a few streams and they seem very much like a concept that I took part in and even hosted a few times - an artjam. Basically, a bunch of artists(and maybe a few non-artists who just want to watch) get together and hang out and socialize and draw together. Often times a challenge or subject is proposed and everyone draws it and you get all sorts of fun and interesting permutations on the subject. Then, sometimes someone proposes another subject often times based off what was drawn previously and things get really interesting because often times we draw extrapolations of the other artists' work.

Hmmmm. I need to host some artjams again...

sonicrainboom

5 years, 3 months ago

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I see adoption art as a cheap way to support an artist, can't afford a commission ? Do any of these pre made OCs float your boat?
Some people stream in silence, it neat to watch people craft.

GreenReaper

5 years, 3 months ago

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@ sonicrainboom

This is another good answer. Often commissioners get priced out of the market. An artist can ensure there is something for everyone with adopts, which are done as and when the artist desires, and for which there are no corrections due, only the potential for future revenue - either from the buyer or their friends.

ReoDemonDays

5 years, 3 months ago

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@ GreenReaper

Quiet you with your sound business strategies..... <_<

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