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SenGrisane

If I had this power...

... I'd use it properly.

Just some ranty thing. Read at your own risk ^^

I like superhero stories (or stories with people with super powers), but I often wonder why those people aren't using their abilities properly. I often see them and wonder "Hey this is obvious. Do this!" and then they pull some strange stunt that comes out of nowhere and you wonder how that is supposed to work.

I am firmly grounded in reality, but I enjoy mind experiments a lot. Like what would happen if some parameters of reality changed.
And superpowers breake the laws of physics in many cases ^^

So here are some examples and hopefully you can tell me if you think the same.

Example 1:
Kevin Leven from Ben 10.
This is one of the most obvious.

So Kevin can absorb the properties of matter he touches to aid him in battle. Touch stone = Rock hard and strong, Touch metal = the same.
But that is the only thing he ever does. Absorb metal or stone and punch bad guys (or tetanite... which is some super hard fantasy crystal). There was one epsiode where he absorbed Carbon to control a nuclear reaction (don't think too hard about that ^^). If he has absorbed other stuff then I haven't seen that epsiode.

Now if I had Kevin's power, the first thing I'd do is get a belt and glue dozens of different material on it I could use for every situation that could come up. Not only do I have more variation, I don't have to hope there is something hard near me when I need to fight.
Things I'd prepare?

Teflon: Chemically inert and resistant to acid (especially if I get the good stuff used in Labs). Oh how convenient my best friend can turn into an acid slime monster. Now he doesn't have to be careful around me when we double team.
Neat side effect is, that it is easy to clean so dirt will glide right off... and from what I'd seen they often land in insect guts or something else disgusting.

Rubber: Sometimes I need defense instead of offense. Become soft rubber and absorb blocks or give electro attacking enemies the finger.
I dunno if he could do that, but if he can first rubberize himself and then lay on a sheet of metal he'd walk around in a farady cage and be even better protected.

Wolfram: Metal with the highest melting point. Could be useful.

Osmium/Irridium: Metals with the highest density. If I need to get heavy.

Gold: Almost impossible to harm with aggressive chemicals (same application as teflon but with more weight).

Areogel: This substance is mostly air so it has no weight to speak of. If I could absorb that I could jump better than on the moon... but even slight wind would blow me away.

Heat shielding of the spaceshuttle: This material is designed to absorb and store heat without harm to the vehicle. Good against fire attacks, I'd guess.

Diamond: Does not conduct electricity while conducting heat very well, extremly hard and transparent. Immunity to energy ray attacks?

SciFi Fantasy stuff: This is a SciFi show. Sure there must be a few alien or future substances that are interesting to copy there. Tetonite was mentioned a few times for being the hardest stuff ever, but it hardly sees use (only in one or two episodes) to be absorbed.
I'd make that my standard absorbtion.


Other Examples.... I may add some more or write a new journal. I just had to get this out ^^

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Added: 12 years, 1 month ago
 
theuncalledfor
12 years, 1 month ago
It is a widely known fact that Ben 10 characters are genrally very bad at using their powers to their full potential.
SenGrisane
12 years, 1 month ago
I didn't know it was that widely known :P
theuncalledfor
12 years, 1 month ago
Everyone who sees the show will always think how badly they are using their powers.
SenGrisane
12 years ago
I see. Then I am not the only one.
supremekitten
12 years, 1 month ago
>>>RANT

The obvious reason 1 why they don't use powers properly is - plot device, if they would use the ridiculously overpowered powers properly things like famine, war, etc, could all be solved in a day, there would be no conflict and it would be boring.
The less obvious reason 2 - because it's simply horrible, shitty writing. They shouldn't be overpowered to begin with or they should have sufficient forces against them, except the writers/creators suck ass and so they have to use retarded plot devices and the heroes have to be dumbasses.

A particularly retarded trope related to this is, pulling superpowered enemies out of your ass. Your hero got too strong? We have this convenient 10 enemies who were there "from the dawn of time", except they were hiding for this exact moment to jump out so the hero has something to do. This is especially retarded if the author keeps making the enemies 10 times stronger each episode and then he makes the hero 10 times stronger and so on and on until the power looses all meaning and the whole cast is implied to be 1000x stronger than earlier.... except all the attacks still do same amount of damage to the environment... or sometimes even less than they did a few episodes earlier.

But guess what, the target demographic of most of these things is little kids, so the authors don't give a fuck if the writing is shitty, they just do it because it's easy.

Personally I like diplomatic solutions and enemies who aren't flat "I am so evil I painted my face black and I have random spikes"
SenGrisane
12 years, 1 month ago
Yeah the typical power race ^^
FrancisJCat
12 years, 1 month ago
Sperm: Because you never know when you'll need a mega bukkake.
SenGrisane
12 years, 1 month ago
Hehe. Living Sperm man Go!
Sunkra
12 years, 1 month ago
If you turn into gold I'll just pour a few gallons of quicksilver (Hydrargyrum) on your head and watch the show! >:)
SenGrisane
12 years, 1 month ago
Metals don't dissolve that quickly that he couldn't change form fast enough.

Besides. Where do you get that much quicksilver ^^
raftguy37
12 years, 1 month ago
The reason why he doesn't was already covered by the show itself. In one of the episodes (don't ask me which one, I would never be able to tell you) Kevin was going through some sort of depression an, in an attempt to cheer him up, Gwen gave him a sack of marbles, all made of different materials for him to use at anytime. Kevin explained that the problem lied in the fact that his power were a little more complicated than "touch it, absorb it". There would have to be enough of said material that it could cover his entire body, so I guess similar to copy/pasting it to his body. That's why it would never work, belt or marbles, or at least making it work would impractical. He would have to lug around giant blocks of materials everywhere and at that point it would just be easier to use any material already present on the scene.

It's weird, I barely watched the show and wasn't a particular fan, but that one part has stuck with me for some years.
ProjectDemise
12 years, 1 month ago
Which is why he's always touching off on either the ground or the hood of his car.  I think they just made that part up so they could close a plot hole.
SenGrisane
12 years, 1 month ago
But in one epsiode he could absorb an about fist size crystal of tetonite. Why doesn't he keep using that?

And in another one they forced him to absorb the stuff and grow rocks out of his back to mine it off of him. So he actually created more material than was previously present. Sounds like a contuinity error or not? ^^
KerasLucar
12 years, 1 month ago
maybe theres a limitation in how much he can absorb or become, i mean he only absorbs big parts of stone or metal like he can get by touching walls and stuff.
SenGrisane
12 years, 1 month ago
Except for the episodes where he absorbs small handheld crystals ;3
KerasLucar
12 years, 1 month ago
O......K maybe thats the one or second episode i missed. ^^''
SenGrisane
12 years, 1 month ago
It was in two epsiodes actually.

One where they fight the energy being in the metal armor. The crystal here was a bit bigger than a fist, but still carryable.
In the other case I don't know anymore exactly but it was probably smaller. Enemy forced him to absorb it and to grow more of it so they could mine it off of him.
daorn
12 years, 1 month ago
The other downside of Kevin's powers is that he only grows some kind of armor of the material he absorbs, is not that he converts his entire body, so if he absorbs, let's say, rubber it would be just like wearing a rubber suit which would be pretty un-usefull. the other problem is, like raftguy37 said, that he needs a significant amount of the material to cover his entire body, so the idea of carrying around diverse materials is almost impossible in a practical way.
SenGrisane
12 years, 1 month ago
If he is only growing armor then it can't be that protective as it is in the show. The metal and stone needs to be very flexible if he wants to move beneath, but then it wouldn't protect him as much.
biggerstaff
12 years, 1 month ago
Or telekinetics who only throw stuff around. Seriously, from what I can tell, with enough control, TK is the god power - you can almost literally do anything with it, yet it's almost never used to, say, cause spontaneous fusion from the hydrogen in the atmosphere, for instance.
SenGrisane
12 years, 1 month ago
It does not need that much. Even with small telekinesis (lets say able to lift 1 pound of material) you'd be untouchable.
You can simply make everyone fall unconscious or die by applying pressure to brain/heart directly.
Nightwind292
12 years, 1 month ago
Now I saw that addressed intelligently in one episode of Babylon 5.  The psi core made an artificial tk (as humans have none naturally) ... he started out moving bigger and bigger things, but then discovered the real power, and the even HARDER thing to do was small fine control.  By the end he is stopping hearts and causing explosions.
SenGrisane
12 years ago
Never seen much of the show. I always miss it somehow and/or is at inconvenient times.
Rakaziel
11 years, 11 months ago
The real fun starts when you telekinetically asseble viruses and retroviruses inside your target.
SenGrisane
11 years, 11 months ago
you need very fine control and enormous knowledge for that ^^
Incaros
12 years, 1 month ago
X3 Actually, that wasn't his original power. Originally he could only absorb energy and such, like from the omnitrix. I think they changed to absorbing material so he would fit in better with the "actiony" part of the series.  I don't like alien force as much as I like the original. It lost most of its charm, and you can tell the people who make the new show probably didn't even HEAR about Ben 10 until they where half way done with the new series. More or less.The omnitrix doesn't even "malfunction" anymore. Which I don't think it ever really did. I think it had a personality of its own, and would pick different aliens then the one Ben wanted when he made a bad choice. Example, in one episode, he wanted to turn into stink fly during a ran storm to save a boy who was falling from a cliff. The omnitrix instead made him change into Canon Bolt. If you think about it, Canon Bolt is a MUCH better choice, as Stink Fly likely wouldn't have been able to fly effectively in that weather, whereas Canon Bolt could catch the boy, and his armor would absorb the impact from the fall.
SenGrisane
12 years ago
I can't say who made the show. I was just complained about something I observed. ^^

I find both shows to be okay. Certainly better than some other shows in CN.
Munkster
12 years, 1 month ago
This kinda reminds me of DBZ, where they blew up a planet practically three times the size of Earth with just two super powerful fighters dishing it out.

So if the equivalent of two super saiyans are dishing it out is enough to blow up Namek, WHY is it that there can be several Super saiyan 3s running around fighting guys stronger than them with comparatively little harm to the planet?

Just saying
SenGrisane
12 years ago
The author had planned on ending the series long before it became as ridiculous. But they made him continue and thus the show became what it is today.
I love the beginning where it was more about the fun and not the fighting. The series should have ended after Freezer the latest.
Munkster
12 years ago
Dragon ball is infinitely superior to dragon ball z

If nothing but for the super strong kid with perfect innocence xD
SenGrisane
12 years ago
Sadly censored the heck out for people outside Japan ^^
AlexReynard
12 years, 1 month ago
I've never seen Ben 10, but this is the kind of thing I think about ALL THE TIME.

Seriously, I fantasize about getting Q powers almost every day. I hunger shamelessly for omnipotence.

I've often thought about what I'd do in a genie/3 wishes situation. For starters, I'd ask the genie if it was okay to lay out what I wanted from my three wishes before I formally made them, so we'd both be on the same page. For my first wish, something impossible yet simple. 'I want you to transport us instantaneously to Times Square for thirty seconds, then instantaneously back here,' for example. That way, I know the genie isn't simply full of shit. For my second wish: the ability to alter reality in any way I can imagine, exactly as I will it to occur, with the ability to reverse without consequence anything I do, and my only restriction that I cannot cause permanent physical harm to any living being. I think that about covers it. For my third wish, as I'd have explained beforehand, I'd let the genie have whatever they felt like, so long as it didn't interfere with my second wish. ;)
SenGrisane
12 years ago
I also often have pondered what to wish for ;3

And then I found this comic and thought to myself. Of course. Genius! Why didn't I think of that!
http://www.explosm.net/comics/2243/
AlexReynard
12 years ago
<chuckle> I guessed what that was before I even saw the link. ;)
SenGrisane
12 years ago
^^ You had the idea too?
AlexReynard
12 years ago
Naw, just seen that comic before. I'm quite familiar with C&H.
SenGrisane
12 years ago
I see. ^^
KNIFE
12 years, 1 month ago
Speaking of using superpowers, have you seen "Chronicles" yet.
SenGrisane
12 years ago
I haven't. I heard it overused the "shakey camera" ^^
KNIFE
12 years ago
It's actually pretty good and it uses the 'shaky cam' very smartly,
also relying on other views like security camera's and
there are many times where he puts the camera down so they can talk.
I recommend it highly.
SenGrisane
12 years ago
Well if I have time I might check it out then :3
viviboi9
12 years, 1 month ago
:3 i have this power and make lots of alien porn and make money xp
SenGrisane
12 years ago
Good power to have ^^
Nightwind292
12 years, 1 month ago
Reality warp is too much responsibility for me.  I take 2 wishes, really simple ones.


1.  My warm up wish.  The ability to reach into any pocket and withdraw any amount of currency, any time I want.  Carefully worded you can make pocket a general term referring to any semi enclosed space that is not in direct sight, so you can pull a $100.00 bill out of your mouth if you where naked.  Finesse on this would let it be not just the local currency, but anything that could be construed as payment.  Sometimes a gold coin is better.  Someday I might even work this out in a way that it would cover digital transactions.  Perhaps "ability to pay for anything" would do it.

2.  Mastery of the self.  Simple concept really.  Don't want to be sick, not sick, want to adjust the metabolism and take off some weight, off it goes.  Younger, ageless, older, just think it into place.  Have a drink, want to be sober, there it goes.  Injury, healed.  If I want to grow fur, then fur I will grow.  For it to be true mastery, it has to be something I can share, at will, with others, and revoke.  And yes, this does put me in the center of a small group of immortals who will live until they get tired of it.

3.  Hold in reserve or bribe the djinn.
SenGrisane
12 years ago
Interesting. I have had some interesting ideas as well. ^^

One of my simplest is simply this wish.

Every human in the world shall become a herm. Total gender equality! :D
Rakaziel
11 years, 11 months ago
Und es sind ja nicht nur die Superkräfte sondern auch finanzielle Macht - Wenn Bruce Wayne über seine Nasenspitze hinausdenken würde, würde vermutlich in Gotham jeder Polizist rumrennen wie Batman, oder zumindest die Spezialeinheiten. Das gleiche gilt auch für die meisten Schurken, zumindest die weniger psychotischen wie Freeze und Poison Ivy.

Was auch oft nervt ist spezielle Ausrüstung die durch einfache Designfehler oder an den Haaren herbeigezogene Zufälle einmal nicht funktioniert und dann nie wieder benutzt wird.

Das eine gut geschriebene Serie unerwartete Altersgruppen anziehen kann hat MLP ja bewiesen, und eine intelligent geschriebene Superhelden Serie würde vermutlich das gleiche tun.
SenGrisane
11 years, 11 months ago
Ja. Manchmal braucht man für den Plot sowas :3
Aber wenn es ganz dämlich sollte der Author sich etwas mehr mühe geben.
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