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Makes total sense to me.

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5 years, 4 months ago

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I hear what you're saying and I wholeheartedly agree. I've always kinda prided myself as a "good listener" but I learned not to long ago that there is a limit. Sometimes you just need to do what's best for you. A little selfishness is not inherently a bad thing.

Take care and keep doing what you're doing.

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5 years, 4 months ago

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To me its a very simple matter that people are allowed to choose who their friends are and I am not one for forcing friendships unless the other person feels comfortable with that. Saying that not everyone has that same outlook and some people just have this knack of invading personal spaces in order just for the sake of having well known friends for selfish gains. In the long run I just hope you will be alright and this whole thing doesn't burn you out or cause any unnecessary stress in the future.

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5 years, 4 months ago

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I'm sorry to hear that you've had to deal with that kind of emotional stress; if it's any consolation, I think we've all been through that kind of draining attention, especially if we happen to be even somewhat popular.

With that said, I honestly hope I'm not on that "no more friends" list; I know that we haven't really talked in eons, but I hope we can reconnect sometime in the future and that you're doing well, despite what you've been having to deal with.

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And if you look straight ahead you will see "more reasons I dont want to be popular." Also, ive always thought it was super weird and creepy how people all think you're like... their dad or something.

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5 years, 4 months ago

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No one can be friends with everybody.They say we can only really process knowing a few hundred people at most. Theres a lot of lonely needy people in the fandom for sure.And just because you have a fun cool character(s) and seem in fiction sexual open doesnt mean you can be everybodys emotional support or friend. Unfortunately thats not obvious to many and you have to spell it out clearly. I`m totally willing to know people as acquaintances (as in I know of you, you know of me.we have a mild positive opinion of each other and we dont ask anything of each other..well besides any business transactions)

Ragnacock

5 years, 4 months ago

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Solution, restrict your communication with people to light chit chat and work talk.

tkongingi

5 years, 4 months ago

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You do you. If my occasional poke about art ideas and characters is too much for you, don't hesitate to let me know.

graymuzzle

5 years, 4 months ago

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Can't say that that has been my experience. For one, I ENJOY interacting with people. Second, for the most part, one gets to choose the level of interaction that you share. I'm ACQUAINTENCES with a TON of people- you know, we chat, exchange pleasantries, I know who they are- maybe long term fans, or just people who've been around the community a long time. Or perhaps we travel ion the same circles, and know the same people.
There's a much smaller group that I consider 'friends'. Usually we share something- in my case, a lot of there are writers or artists, but especially writers. Since I do a comic, a fairly large number of these also do comics. Also, with most people I consider friends, it helps that we have a relationship of some sort in RL.
Then, of course there are the others. People who want more than I can give, or who, for whatever reason, don't share positive energy with me. Once, I agonized over these. No longer. If you're bothering me, I'll ask you....politely.....ONE time....to stop. If you persist, then you're gone. There are too many good, positive things here in the fandom (and in RL) to need to salvage bad relationships.
But, to your point, YOU get to decide how involved you get with people. Mostly, people compliment my work, I try to thank them (I still thank EVERYONE who watches) and that's that. That's typically the end of it. To get beyond this, there needs to be a reason. Drama is NOT one of them. Neither is asking for money. Or free stuff. Plus, I've learned to be suspicious of people with lots of problems.

rick2tails

5 years, 4 months ago

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well in this fandom theres a lot of needy people with problems (though to be fair thats the world as a whole) and if you become popular ,you attract a lot of them.I`m sure you eventually have to be a bit rude to some people for them to get the point

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@ rick2tails

"	rick2tails wrote:
	well in this fandom theres a lot of needy people with problems (though to be fair thats the world as a whole) and if you become popular ,you attract a lot of them.I`m sure you eventually have to be a bit rude to some people for them to get the point

I guess it depends on your point of view.
I always have time to say 'hello' to people, and have a brief chat. If time allows, and everything is cool, I've been known to hang out with readers. Other times, it's "Nice to see you; I've got a panel starting in ten minutes, and I have to get there."
At Cons in particular, time is valuable, so I tend to have things pretty much planned out in advance. Plus, I'm generally trhere WITH somebody, so I need to co-ordinate with them.

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well I was meaning more like people who you dont know wanting to tell you their lives story,solve their problems, rp with them and be some emotional food source for their emotional vampirism .basically people with absolutely no sense of boundaries

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rick2tails has a recognizable name and a ton of art involving it which gives people funny ideas.  I've caught myself thinking that way about various characters once or twice.  Train of thought roughly goes,

"This well-known character looks interesting.  I wonder if their player RP's."
"Wow, their player has thoroughly walled themselves off from the fandom.  I don't get it.  Our interests obviously align."
"Sanity check.  Am I really the first to think this...?"
"Perhaps I should leave them alone."

graymuzzle

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@ Corona688

Corona688 wrote:

Is it me, or is this something that seems to go with the more 'fetishy' subcultures here? There is a certain logic to people thinking that if your work primarily features one kink or another, then you're probably into that sort of thing. Of course, people don't think that a lot of artists focus on what they can sell, as opposed to what they enjoy doing.
The drama part I don't see. If you don't play in that arena, you don't get it back. Been doing this a decade, and I can say honestly that I can only think of one that involved me, and that was kind of a stalker thing. I can even deal with mild stalking; it's when the stalking becomes threatening and persistent that I draw the line. While I have, on occasion RP'd, the standard answer is no, I don't. If someone comes along with an enticing proposition, I always have the chance to change my mind. I'd advise that as a general answer, since almost every offer I've received involve you/your character playing out someone else's fetish- not my idea of fun. Actually, I never say 'no' per se; I tell people that I don't RP with strangers (which, BTW is an excellent safety precaution!) So, if you want me to consider an RP, you've got to take time to be a follower, a friend, and open up a bit about yourself. This alone gets rid of almost everybody.

Corona688

5 years, 3 months ago

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It's one thing to sell art involving something, another to commission a lot of art involving something. Most of what you say is probably true anyway.

graymuzzle

5 years, 3 months ago

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True, although I think it's unavoidable that people associate an artist with their work. And, the less 'mainstream' it is, the more they tend to associate it.
I can't think of any way to change this, other than to not put your name on things you wouldn't want your name associated with. Someday, you may break through, and do you want to explain your porn to an interviewer?

JAMEArts

5 years, 4 months ago

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Finally someone has to say it!

I've been struggling with this situation as soon as i got the popularity i kinda wanted (Back in 2015) but it happened with the weirdest situation imaginable, not even i thought that i'd be famous because i started drawing fetish stuff (lipstick to be exact)

And when i tried my best to be like, not a douchebag like some other famous artists i've met in the past. Then i begin to understand how hard it is to give my time, even if i dont have enough, to that random person who wants to approach me. And of course, if i eventually start to ignore em because that was a necessary thing for my mental health i feel remorse because i start to realise how douchy i look like and this is not how i wanted people to see me! And things gets worse when they demand an instant response or attention to them like they are some entitled brat who wants my friendship. Because let's be honest, most people wants to be my friend because that means "free arts" or to brag about they are friends with a "big artist" even if i don't consider myself as much but to their eyes i am.

it's been a few years of experience for me to realise how impossible to be approachable with everyone, because of a dumb and innocent idealization of popularity back when i was ignored and left out.

Blackraven2

5 years, 4 months ago

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Nice :-)

strawkitty

5 years, 4 months ago

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You don't owe it to be anyone's friend indeed and often enough with having to work for a living it's difficult to find time for friends that you already have. So this is completely understandable.

PonderousPlatypus

5 years, 4 months ago

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There have been times that I marveled to myself, 'How does he have the energy to deal with so many people?' I was always amazed not because I thought you had some rare boundless enthusiasm that meant that the weights of interpersonal relationships just didn't exist, but because you seemed to shoulder them so much better than others. But everything must eventually come to an end.

Professionalism is a good thing. People might find it bracing, or even cold, to be reminded that they are work to you. But that is not a bad thing. When trying to share my ideas with others, unless the artist expresses a certain interest or like towards the material, I try to limit it to high points. A general blurb to understand the character's 'high concept'. The needs for the image itself. Because this is a job, and no job requires you to engage with every single customer that enters your shop. That's really crazy.

Like, imagine if you worked at a hotdog stand and you needed to learn the name and preferred condiments of everyone who swung by during the week, and you had to help give them feedback and hotdog suggestions on ways to step up their lunch game. That sounds like something out of a joke, so why do we expect an artist to do it? It is a natural temptation, to want to engage others on ideas and concepts that we ourselves are invested in. But it is a good thing to remember that while you can pay for an artist's time, you are not paying for their emotions during that time.

Sorry to ramble on a bit on this. I hope this results in a lot less stress for you, Nori. You might be a pathological sadist, but you're still my favorite pathological sadist, and I want you to enjoy your trade as much as anybody can enjoy their job.

Milkie

5 years, 4 months ago

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I don't even know how many times in the last few years I have said that I don't need friends. It's quite a revelation, isn't it? Nobody ever teaches us about friends outside of maybe kindergarten. "You'll find someone who likes the same things you do, and seems very nice, and you'll like spending time with them." They never say when you'd just... have enough, though. Massive popularity is always lauded as a massive accomplishment. When you just content yourself with a small knit group of friends, it feels like going against the grain somehow. There's nothing wrong with it, but we receive no outside affirmation that it's okay.

In that sense, I can't blame people for proceeding under the notion that they need to have as many friends as possible. Some people *are* just friendly people, and have no problem integrating with all sorts of folks. Others, though, are not. They're not, and throughout their entire life they face a sort of stigma to suggest that they're anti-social or somehow unpleasant, or lonely, or sad. Humans are social creatures, but not every human is as social as the next. There's burn-out the likes of which some can't even fathom. That's just a simple Introvert-Extrovert situation, when it boils down, but even then, no two are alike.

But when you finally just come out and say "I don't want any more friends, I'm good," it feels even more like you're doing something unacceptable. When you make that decision though, it becomes kinda clear that... there's nothing inherently wrong with that. You have friends, you are social, you do get out, you do things with others. The only thing "wrong" with it stems from the expectations of others. That's where most social complications come from, and some people just fail to realize that outside of gelling as a society, the expectations of others... don't really matter all that much. I had to learn this pretty darn early on because of disability differences making me a target for relentless bullying, but others never learn this.

So yeah, coming out and saying, "I don't want to be your friend," makes people sad. But that's not your problem. That's their problem. And unless they're your close friend, there's no need to make their problems into your problems. So the situation kinda solves itself. ;P

And the best-best part about it is that... you will make friends. They'll come around and you'll just very organically make friends. No forcing, no faking. They'll be few and far between, but you'll pick 'em up as you go on your terms when you have the capacity for them.

Every friend is something you need to carve a space out for, and there's only so much room on the board, y'know?

Kalibran

5 years, 4 months ago

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I certainly hope I haven't added to the toxicity. I know I can be difficult at times.

eclipsewolf

5 years, 4 months ago

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sorry to hear that kind of pressure you have

MaximilianUltimata

5 years, 4 months ago

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I had a similar incident a few years ago when I started snapping at a bunch of people who honestly deserved it. They were feigning contemplating suicide just to get attention from people, specifically me, because they lacked a personality that made them worth talking to on any level, and this was just after Robin Williams died. I wrote a journal about it and called out people who pull that kind of shit.

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5 years, 4 months ago

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As harsh as it sounds it is in fact the truth, hence why it sounds so harsh to begin with for anyone who doesn't know you. Even worse people who don't know you will think you've turned into a "popufur". For what it's worth, fuck 'em. You can only make so much time for so many people let alone the ones that aren't even paying you, anyone who tries to put you in a position like that ain't worth the time let alone that kind of attention. It sucks to hear but hey it's something that needs to be said when they feel it comes to a head. Here's hoping I've not added to it and to those that have knowingly (they know who you are), again, fuck 'em.

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5 years, 4 months ago

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"Feel free to befriend other people in my orbit, but please, please leave me alone unless it's to give a short description of the picture you're paying me to draw."

I picked up on this about 3-4 years ago. Your friend capacity was full, so I simply enjoyed existence in proximity to you. I've got my own life, my own friends, and I'm happy enough where they intersect.

I don't need you. I enjoy watching you, consuming your content, and supporting you financially. Our relationship is fine.

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Its a tough thing to deal with, I and many others understand and will respect your boundaries. We all only wish you the best.

Ravi

5 years, 4 months ago

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Wanted to add that I'll still continue watching and cheering you on from a distance.

shadycat

5 years, 4 months ago

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Perhaps you'll find this amusing. Looking at the numbers, we joined IB within a month of each other eight years ago. Iirc, I started watching you because of a comment you made on someone's journal, and I've kept following due to your journals, which, like this one, tend to be well written and express thoughts both interesting and very different from my own.

I didn't know you were popular. In all this time until just now I've never looked at your watch count. The number of responses to your journals should have been a clue, but I generally don't read the comments. Anyway, I think this is the first time I've commented on one of your journals and will probably be the last. Like you, I don't need more friends, but this seemed funny enough to mention. No emotional work required.

Cowardsd13

5 years, 4 months ago

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Yknow, as much as I wish I could get to know you better, I understand and respect your wishes. I've been meaning to approach you for a while now, but now that I know it's unwanted, I'll steer clear and just cheer you on from the sidelines. I hope you find your balance of exactly how many friends, if any, that you need. I'd offer to be an ear for you to talk to, but you seem to already have that covered for yourself.

Exelbirth

5 years, 4 months ago

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We all, as a species, have a limited capacity for friendship. We have a small number of people who can be regarded as close friends, a larger number that can be considered friends, a bigger number as distant friends, and beyond that is just acquaintances. There is no exact number, it varies from person to person, from introvert to extrovert, from male to female, from "normal" mentalities to antisocial mentalities. The funny thing is that the only people who understand that there's a limit on one's capacity for friendship are those who have a low one, and they tend to be the people to not burden others with their woes.

I like you and the way you think and argue positions, and based on that it's possible we could be friends. But, I'm an introverted male with antisocial mentalities, and as such even maintaining existing friendships is hard enough. You're an admirable acquaintance, and that's good enough for me, and likely good enough for you (possibly even preferable for you really).

KNIFE

5 years, 4 months ago

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Cult of Personality sucks.
Good for you for laying out the rules though, hope it helps.

Seth65

5 years, 4 months ago

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While I have not quite gone through what you've had to put up with, my only issue with your stance is how it proclaims that there is a complete 0% chance of any new relationship happening ever. And of course for the moment that's fine, as you're full up on friends. But maybe there's a commissioner that just happens to rub you the right way in some idle banter with their commission info and you happen to hit it off. I guess it just reads to me like "Even if I like this person I can't be friends with them" but then maybe you barely have enough time for the friends you already have and can't handle another, I dunno.

But I feel you mean more like you run into a lot of people that you've chatted with for three messages and then they're like "I've been bummed lately 'cause my dog died" and I can totally understand taking a hard line on that if it happens so often.

Norithics

5 years, 4 months ago

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Yeah well I don't care who has an issue with my stance, it's my goddamn life.

Seth65

5 years, 4 months ago

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And you should live it how you want.

Stush

5 years, 4 months ago

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I'm so sorry, sweetie, it can be such a difficult thing to deal with, i'm always having to explain to people that like, i don't dislike them! I just don't have the energy to deal with them at times, and i need a lot of alone time.

Hope you're doing okay.

ShaneProduction2014

5 years, 4 months ago

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as a small artist that draws on the down time and does it for fun, I really want to say I have no idea what you're feeling
but...
I kinda have the same out look now that I think about it, depesite me being a out going guy that likes to meet other people. My actual friend cirlcle is really small. I dont have that problem here but on fb where I post my rough sketches a lot. messaging to 5 other strangers wanting to be my friend at the same time really feels like a chore. its not like I hate anyone (I'm a soft person after all) but sometimes alone time is all I ever want.

And as for us?
I may not ever have the chance to be your friend but as long if I drawn something for you and you enjoy it and my art. Thats all that matters in my book!

So keep going at life at the way you want it and what makes ya feel like the best, you may see this as a negtive in your eyes but to me. Its another trait that makes yourself uniqe and thats the best in this world!

^^

XZeddX

5 years, 4 months ago

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Wishing you well. Stay golden sir!

whitepawrolls

5 years, 4 months ago

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I think THIS is why I lost the motivation to write publicly. I started writing long ago,and have lots of storys on different drives (the ones I haven't lost over the years due to drive crashes). I was fine with this, but one of them I started to post publicly. All of a sudden I started getting a lot more attention than I could handle, and I'm not much of a people person, so I stopped. I guess the thought of getting that attention again has kept me from going forwards publicly even though I have done more privately. Yea I know I'm probably weird for that :)

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5 years, 4 months ago

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At least I know to not try now. I thank you for letting me know beforehand,though in all honesty I would try to get to know you before ask or try to be friends. I see where you are coming from and I'm glad I know about your situation before I accidentally pissed you off.

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5 years, 4 months ago

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It's good indeed to get such things off your chest. : )

Gghui

5 years, 4 months ago

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Goddamn guys, try not to collab a novel in the comment section. Brevity is the essence of wit. I wouldn't read all this even if it was mine.

LordFriez

5 years, 4 months ago

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This seems to be a topic I've bumped into many times.
I have alot of feelings on this matter and tend to give long winded speeches that usually go unnoticed, so I'll leave this one brief.
As an introvert, that pretends to be a extrovert to get along with people, it is very draining to want to be friends with everyone.
Growing up a sheltered life, I had only a few friends, most of them used me before I developed the introvert tendencies.
I developed this way because I trusted the people around me, naive even, that they would betray my trust.

It's difficult to have even a small handful of people you can fully trust, those "True" or "Close" friends/family, would have priority in your life.
If your other friends or people you have out with don't like that and want more from you, then they aren't really your friends and just want to use you to get something out of you.
I've been through that alot recently, it hurts, alot. Sometimes I regret those friendships, but it's best to learn from past mistakes than to dwell on your failures.

BunnyCoffee

5 years, 4 months ago

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I know this journal is not directly pointing at anyone, but I figured I'd should say something because if I don't I won't get much needed sleep and think about it all night and keep me awake ( brain damage does that to you )

I haven't really interacted with you much, and on the rare occasion I do...I ramble about art here and there or I might ask for advice ( which you were never obligated to help with ) or I might give my opinion on something...but I hope our interaction has never gave you the impression that I wanted to befriend you.

I find your characters/themes interesting....but that's about as far as my interest goes. I don't want to be friends. In fact i'd be 10 times more comfortable with not getting to know you at all. You're a confrontational person (at least how I have come to see it). I'd rather sit, and admire your art from afar than get to know you up close and personal in a way that makes me feel like i'm laying on a bed of needles.

I think it was about time you said something that's been radiating off of you for a long while now. You don't need more friends/want to be friends. Good for you to tell people to leave you the hell alone. Best wishes on your art.

Norithics

5 years, 4 months ago

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If there's one thing I've learned by now, it's that the Internet Popularity Machine is only a vector for destroying people. It doesn't even matter what your opinions are- there'll be a built-in road spike strip to shred your tires and put you through the wringer.

To some degree this is the fault of our forebears. It was thought that we could exist in a conflict-free space, so that everyone's opinions could exist in a vacuum and everyone would be fine. But once those thoughts started dictating what happened in the world, this became an impossible dream. And now we're several generations into this kind of thinking and we have no idea how to interact with each other on these subjects without it becoming adversarial. Ours is a broken society of emotionally wrecked people.

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5 years, 4 months ago

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That's Human nature. Anything it builds up out of the intentions of bringing peace and equality for one another, there's another 10 who will tear it down out of pure spite or disagreement. Some people just want to make it hell for other people. That's human history. They need a reason to be angry, to fight, throw their fists, or tear someone else down. It's not going to change anytime soon.

I'll deal with it, by keeping people at arm's reach because i'm too tired to deal with it all after having years of being kicked out, being run over, made a circus out of, lied to, beaten, all of that. Yes, my life isn't the only one that's had struggle. There have been others that have been demonstrably worse and they don't have to justify themselves to me.

But it's better off that the less people I have close to me when it comes to the internet, the better. I'm not about to tell them who I am and show them i'm just as tired, miserable, and bitter as everyone else is. I'd rather pass off as an idealized version of myself who is, frankly, allot more patient and nicer than I really am ( and what i'd prefer to be. ) But for now, this works for me.

Enjoy your Christmas/Holidays/Time with those you love and consider family. Do what makes you happy. Everyone should do the same and focus on themselves.

cool75

5 years, 4 months ago

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It all depends on who you meet...

KaisarDragon

5 years, 4 months ago

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You do you. Accept the payment, hear the request, execute the art. You owe people nothing more.

Nezumi

5 years, 4 months ago

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Fair enough. I wouldn't have lasted half as long in your situation. If there's anything else you need to me to do to help, just lemme know. Otherwise, I'll give you as much space as you like.

AmadeusEsso

5 years, 3 months ago

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Everyone wants to be my friend but no one wants to be a patron.

"Pay? I don't have to pay! This is America!"

America is land of the free, not the Land of Free Stuff. It's amazing how people feel entitled to my hard work, time and effort just because they liked my post on Tumblr/Twitter.

I'd post my art here but they have rules about humans and humans are apart of my stable of characters.

Kirbyadict101

5 years, 3 months ago

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We can realistically only keep up with like 10 people at most

I can understand why you'd say this

kinpika

5 years, 3 months ago

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You owe nobody anything, society makes us feel we HAVE to be able to be friends with thousands of people at once. Its not possible.

Norithics

5 years, 3 months ago

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You said it. It's just too much, and energy ain't free.

KaisarDragon

5 years, 2 months ago

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Now that I've had a tiny conversation in your server, this journal makes SOOOO much more sense. You have to have a complete isolated echo chamber or your precious ego can't function properly. Not everyone on the planet is as fucked up as you, Nori. One day you'll stop projecting that onto others. Or continue to be a twat, either way.

Norithics

5 years, 2 months ago

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Yeah man, it's just me, the people I know, the people I don't know, people who ideologically disagree with me, multiple forums- those are the only people who think you're an obnoxious cocklord.

YukiAkuma

5 years, 2 months ago

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Holy shit man.

KaisarDragon

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	Holy shit man.

Also, I don't care who you are or what you think, but you talk about another person's kid and you are a real piece of shit. You cannot justify yourself out of that. You leave people's kids alone you freak.

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5 years, 2 months ago

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I expressed sympathy. For having to live with someone as apparently argumentative as you.

What the hell are you doing? What are you hoping to gain from this? You're just making your friend's day suck for no reason at this point.

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Kids are off limits. It wasn't his right to bring it up and it sure as hell isn't yours to comment about it. I love how you got pissy about the log shares, too. Got caught talking about someone else's kid behind their back and don't want other's knowing what a shitty thing that is...

Kids are off limits. Kids are ALWAYS off limits. You can be a shit to me, but you will leave any kids I have out of it.

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Shut the fuck up moron, stop making this about your kid instead of you. Hiding behind your goddamn child to make you right because you can't fight your own battles. You selfish asshole.

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Why would I agree with anyone that knows you? As your mod said, learning about you from someone you know is LESS CONVINCING. You can claim to know everything about a person from a few lines of text, but your oversharing of your life people cannot make ANY assumptions about you, can they? You are just going through another teenage phase... in your adult years... I guess because you miss it? You think your the only one with damage, too. Precious little Nori.

KaisarDragon

5 years, 2 months ago

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There are thousands of cases just like you. You aren't new, you aren't special. But you are studied. An entire field of science just for this. I've seen the logs. It was almost funny how predictable you and your mod lined up. Psychology professor drives me nuts when I have to admit he was right.

Norithics

5 years, 2 months ago

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Man it's super revealing how you project this need to be special on me
Like somehow I thought I was the first schizophrenic sadist in the world or something
It really speaks to how you absolutely can't admit that your own social ineptitude is 100% your fault and desperately grab at any reason why someone else is the problem

KaisarDragon

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You sound like a politician now. I say you are projecting, so you turn it around and try to use it right back. And I said you weren't special. I mean, you did the same thing in chat. You didn't read anything and just made dumbass assumptions. There isn't a point here. You simply cannot read. You do that in your server, too. You put on this facade and rules about people dealing with their own stuff and how you aren't their dad, but you are so quick to throw yourself into any situation and then bitch and moan about it. We are all creatures of habit. Again, you still are not special. You crave it.

Norithics

5 years, 2 months ago

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Lmfao yes I am the one that craves conflict
YOU CAME TO ME
TWICE
DUMBASS

Norithics

5 years, 2 months ago

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I just want everyone to know that this piece of shit took an argument between himself and myself, then rushed to go involve other unrelated people so that he could weaponize them against someone else he didn't think defended him enough. He's absolute scum. Do not interact.

FoxyDean

5 years, 2 months ago

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Jesus fucking Christ.

UncleCarmine

5 years, 2 months ago

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Jesus merciful christ, I was present for that argument and this is pure insanity.

PersonaMaltz

5 years, 2 months ago

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You can just count me as a cheerleader to your awesome work, a fan and follower, yes... But friends require an investment of time and don't waste it on me or anyone else you don't want to. I've learned that harsh lesson of late. All of my free time, time I need to relax, be creative, re-energize myself has been scheduled out each week to paying out those friendship dues. And I can only imagine being popular makes it that much worse.

I hope it doesn't come to the point where you need to turn off comments and messaging just to keep sane, but if you need to, even if, just for a time, do it. I personally take no offense from cheering where you can't hear it and will wait patiently tell the trolls go find a new target to hate on, tell I can cheer you again.

Keep being awesome Norithics (I'll try and stop using Nori since we aren't friends)

Norithics

5 years, 2 months ago

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@ PersonaMaltz

Nah, I'm okay. You can call me Nori, that's fine, everyone does. I'm a lot better than I was when I wrote this, I don't mind it so much. I might have misaimed my antipathy slightly.

Lemalas

5 years, 2 months ago

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Glad you're setting boundaries!

I do have a question, though...

How do you feel about certain kinds of opinion/knowledge questions?

EX: I came to IB today because I was gonna ask your opinion on like... illustrations where someone has a big butt, but it's covered by a top garment (hoodie, sweater dress, etc, something not super tight) and you can kinda see the outline of the butt? 'Cause they are super hard to find...

Because you have such a great understanding/application of how butts and things would naturally be in art (i.e. art journey), I love hearing your perspective. But obviously, if you'd rather not have these kinds of questions in your inbox I'm down to find someone else who's good wit this kind of stuff!

Anyway, I hope things improve for you dude! Don't know you personally but I've admired you from afar for years.

Norithics

5 years, 2 months ago

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@ Lemalas

I'm always willing to talk shop. I guess my only hesitation here is that I'm not entirely sure what you're asking for.

Lemalas

5 years, 2 months ago

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