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"MAGA" bomber

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crazed ex stripper criminal living in his van...but one thing about story...FBI said they tracked him by his DNA....HOW?

Know this is going to democrat v republican whose responsible, but i think THIS is biggest issue in this case.
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LupineAssassin
3 weeks ago
He left a fingerprint on one of the two bombs sent to Maxine Waters.
Yiffox
3 weeks ago
they said DNA first
LupineAssassin
3 weeks ago
They also tracked him down through cell phone records.
Yiffox
3 weeks ago
missing point of this, they are recording our DNA...maybe they have clone of you to replace you MUHAHAH
LupineAssassin
3 weeks ago
Replace me? Not on your fucking life! ;)
moyomongoose
3 weeks ago
Hence why if someone is going to go out and fuck up, leave the cell phone home.
Ainoko
3 weeks ago
Wait, wait, wait...

Tracked by DNA?

How da fuck?

They initially stated they caught Sayoc through his fingerprints.

That kind of tech is years away.
Yiffox
3 weeks ago
unless they have secret registry of DNA sent by hmm...anyone who takes DNA test?  maybe blood test?  They said on news a few times DNA, fingerprint was mentioned later...see below comment on them with illegal facial recognition thing
SilverDragon1979D
3 weeks ago
he had a record too that be on file
moyomongoose
3 weeks ago
I've been told that when some one is arrested, they get a DNA sample from them now days. He's been in trouble before.
Yiffox
2 weeks, 6 days ago
that started recently, 2018 in florida and he was arrested in 2002.
EricAdler
3 weeks ago
When talking about cutting-edge forensics, expect the reports to the public to have oversimplifications, obfuscations, or outright misstatements as red herrings.

It's like the anti-counterfeiting measures build into US currency, the Secret Service has only revealed a quarter to a half of the features, and the ones they revealed are the ones that are easily seen by the public, like the polyester strip, the watermark, the microprinting, and the way the "paper" (which is actually linen, not wood pulp paper) fails to react to iodine. (The counterfeit detection pens use iodine, which will turn dark when exposes to starches, which exist in wood pulp paper like computer paper.)
Yiffox
3 weeks ago
or they are taking our DNA into registry on various sources...we know they are illegally doing facial recognition from facebook posts, thats documented...but agreed...they didnt say they were documenting all your web searches, all phone calls, etc...till Snowden...and still deny scope, tho built a huge data collection repository out west.
windluck
3 weeks ago
He was brought in and charged for a Bomb Threat in 2002 IIRC I think they had his DNA and finger print since then. Trace amounts of his DNA and prints were left on the packages and easily lifted and compared to criminal registry to see if any matched.
Yiffox
3 weeks ago
no in 2002...and even now, they are not taking your DNA...so how did they match him on DNA, thats my question...and really...all republicans are living in a van and sending out bombs...none of you would be left alive, we have the guns...I do think when you get arrested NOW they are taking facial recognition things which isnt exactly legal...
silverstripes
3 weeks ago
Skin cells, a stray hair maybe doesn’t take much to get DNA off something and the news said he has been previously added into the system for other felonies. Honestly it’s good they caught him because I know not all republicans are like that. Plus it makes me proud to be in a country that can solve a crime like this so quickly
Yiffox
3 weeks ago
missing point they had to record his DNA to match it in first place...riiight?
silverstripes
3 weeks ago
fair enough, the only interview I saw didn't say what his last big crime was to get his DNA in the system was. just that they had it and prints.
windluck
3 weeks ago
In the 2002 bomb threat case, he had lashed out at a Florida utility representative because his electricity service was about to be cut off. The arrest report said Sayoc threatened in a phone call to blow up the utility’s offices and said that “It would be worse than September 11th.”

Sayoc was also convicted in 2014 for grand theft and in 2013 for battery. In 2004, he faced several felony charges for unlawful possession of a synthetic anabolic steroid often used to help build muscles. He also had several arrests going back to the 1990s for theft, obtaining fraudulent refunds and tampering with evidence.

The police had several opportunities to get his DNA.

There was also a decision in 2013 from the Supreme Court that supports the collection of DNA:
"The police may take DNA samples from people arrested in connection with serious crimes, the Supreme Court ruled"
Yiffox
3 weeks ago
missing point federal agents should NOT have your DNA and supreme court never said you could make database of it
windluck
3 weeks ago
Except they are stored and are allowed to store DNA or any biometric data that was taken with a warrant or processing of a criminal. https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/fingerprints-and-othe...
the2337
3 weeks ago
There probably exists a database like that. I mean when it comes down to it if you want to actually do any proper security monitoring you should be tracking DNA. It's one of those things you just can't modify your hide in any way. So any Security Agency it would be a gold mine to have. I mean we've had the ability to pretty much store and  record DNA for a long time so it's not that shocking. Even if it's not them it's probably somewhere else or some other group that has a DNA database maybe if it's even in the medical sector. I've even seen commercials for stuff that tries to use your DNA to figure out how to select foods for you. I don't know if they're at the Star Trek level of scanning for DNA yet but.. if they work they probably won't tell anybody.
Yiffox
3 weeks ago
again there should be no federal databases of your DNA or facial recognition or anything like that.  yes it makes crimes easier to solve...but its a massive invasion of privacy and i disagree that any law enforcement should store even fingerprints.
moyomongoose
3 weeks ago
Believe it or not, a video actually showed an arrest affidavit from 2002 with the guys ssn#...262-85-3324
 https://youtu.be/vBCFV-P_HQI?t=209

Looks like Channel 7 News fed him to the identity fraud hackers. His ssn was broadcast on TV like as if to say to everyone watching Channel 7 News, "Hey, LOOK, everybody!".
There might soon be a lot of Ceser Sayocs out there maxing out credit cards and driving around in extravagant cars while the real Cesar Sayoc is serving his prison time...
..."Will the real Cesar Sayoc please stand up?...You may not know it, Mr. Sayoc, but you owe a shitload of delinquent credit card debt, late fees, and overdue new car payments on cars you've never owned."
Yiffox
2 weeks, 6 days ago
he's prolly gonna get death penalty, i dont think he has to worry.
moyomongoose
2 weeks, 6 days ago
He'd would have had to actually caused someone to die to get the death penalty.
Yiffox
2 weeks, 5 days ago
numerous federal crimes of terrorism? sessions said he could according to one report
moyomongoose
2 weeks, 5 days ago
That's one I've heard of for the first time.
They use to give the death penalty for either rape, treason or murder back during the 1950s and 1960s and years earlier.
For the longest time, only murder and treason brought the death penalty, and it was not given very much for treason.
Yiffox
2 weeks, 5 days ago
well theyre talking death penalty for pittsburgh shooter too...you should see weird multiword charges they plan on bringing against him...not things like murder but things like this:  obstruction of the exercise of religious beliefs resulting in death and obstruction of the exercise of religious beliefs resulting in bodily injury to a public safety officer
moyomongoose
2 weeks, 5 days ago
Murder connected in a hate crime is what will be the nail in the coffin for the Pittsburgh shooter.

I'll be surprised if they don't execute him.
Darckwolf
3 weeks ago
Honestly, the way the left usually is, total lack of moral compass, ends justify the means, violence is fine, etc.. I'll be pretty shocked if the final word is it wasn't a hoax and it wasn't a left winger that set this whole thing up as a last ditch effort to get more votes for congressional seats so they can have another try at screwing up the economy and flooding the country with vote slaves, er.. 'undocumented immigrants' . Even if this nutcase is indeed part of it, this whole thing doesn't pass the smell test.
daemonicusprince
2 weeks, 6 days ago
from what I heard from the morning radio guys I listen to when I have time, they might have done the sort of thing 23-and-me does (that Warren should have done, heh), if they have a DNA sample it might not pinpoint it "exactly to this one person", but it is a ballpark match for "this family", for example, if someone in the family is on record somewhere, whether they volunteered to be in the system etc, then they'd talk to that family and ask them "do you have any weirdos in your family, that might send a bomb?" and they'd be like "oh yeah, we have that one crazy uncle..." etc
Yiffox
2 weeks, 6 days ago
my point is feds legally should not have access to that (although they probably do)
daemonicusprince
2 weeks, 6 days ago
from what I heard from the morning radio guys I listen to when I have time, they might have done the sort of thing 23-and-me does (that Warren should have done, heh), if they have a DNA sample it might not pinpoint it "exactly to this one person", but it is a ballpark match for "this family", for example, if someone in the family is on record somewhere, whether they volunteered to be in the system etc, then they'd talk to that family and ask them "do you have any weirdos in your family, that might send a bomb?" and they'd be like "oh yeah, we have that one crazy uncle..." etc
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