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Aval0nX

PLEASE READ THIS YOU WANT THE GAME READ DAMNIT!!!

I'm sick and tired of getting asked the SAME BLOODY DAMN QUESTION and people just running their mouths saying they're angry that I didn't release the damn game! and that I don't fulfill my promises.

The game was released today at 1:36pm here on inkbunny

THIS IS THE LINK TO THE GAME!!!

https://inkbunny.net/submissionview.php?id=218031

YOU NEED TO HAVE THE ADULT SETTINGS ENABLED TO VIEW IT!!!!

WARNING: The following message is not for our loving caring, patient, inteligent, perceptive fans who know and understand what it takes to work on a project like this and that support us no matter what...this message is for retarded idiots that don't know how to read and can barely get through the intro screen and fill my inbox with 50+ PMs asking me where the game is and why there isn't art or all the features that where in the old versions.

YES THE GAME IS LACKING A LOT OF ART THAT WAS IN IT BEFORE I EXPLICITLY STATED THAT THERE WOULD BE AN ART UPDATE AFTER THIS RELEASE WHERE WE'D RE-INTRODUCE THE ART.

THE GAME SCRIPT WAS CHANGED FROM VERSION 93 SOME STUFF WAS ADDED, CHANGED, and REMOVED.  ALL OF THIS WAS PER REQUEST OF THE TESTERS OF THE GAME OR OUR PROOFREADERS.

DON'T LIKE SOME PARTS OF THE GAME, I DIDN'T MAKE THE GAME TO PLEASE A SPECIFIC PART OF THE FANDOM, IF YOU FIND A PART THAT YOU DON'T LIKE, BY ALL MEANS IN ALL FUTURE PLAYTHROUGHS...DON'T PLAY THAT PART...period.

YES THERE ARE BUGS AND MAYBE A GRAMMATICAL ERROR HERE OR THERE, AVIAN ISN'T PERFECT, NEITHER AM I.

I'M NOT GOING TO ADD AN INFINITE TIME OR ENERGY VERSION TO THE GAME AND NO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO HACK IT.  STOP ASKING!

I RELEASED THE GAME TODAY BECAUSE I PROMISED I'D RELEASE IT BETWEEN THE 12th - and 16th I USE MY TIME HERE I'M NOT PAYING ATTENTION WHETHER IT'S TOMORROW ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GOD DAMN WORLD!!!

AVIAN IS DEPRESSED BECAUSE OF ALL THE INSENSITIVE PRICKS OUT THERE, I KNOW THERE'S FANS WHO LOVE US AND THE ONES THAT HATE US BUT THAT DOESN'T GIVE ANYONE THE RIGHT TO MAKE HIM FEEL BAD.  BUNCH OF INSENSITIVE PRICKS, AFTER ALL THE TIME HE SPENT WORKING ON THE GOD DAMN GAME, HE'S NOT AN EXPERT IN FLASH AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT WRITER OR ARTIST, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT

IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE BEEN LET DOWN AND SUCH BY ALL MEANS CONTACT ME THROUGH SKYPE WE'LL HAVE A NICE CIVILIZED DISCUSSION.

PLEASE I HOPE THE CAPS MAKES IT EASIER FOR YOU TO READ..

love ya'll
Aval0nX - WRz

PS: I'm not boiling angry I'm just lightly simmering
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Added: 6 years, 8 months ago
 
gilthepinkandpurpleman
6 years, 8 months ago
first
dualblade16
6 years, 8 months ago
sad person
Drbigt
6 years, 8 months ago
... to post nothing relevant or contributing.


Way to go. May this milestone forever shine high up on your resume of things you've done.
megafat
6 years, 8 months ago
....idiot to post on this page.
c0rrupt3dgunn3r
6 years, 8 months ago
I love you bruh :]
KeeperSeen
6 years, 8 months ago
Sounds like the daily shit though for you Ava, I would have hoped you would have built a immunity to it xD
Gunblazer42
6 years, 8 months ago
People don't see the big X NEW SUBMISSIONS thing right under the Inkbunny logo? <_<
nightarix
6 years, 8 months ago
they probably don't have him on their watchlist, or seem to be paying any attention to his gallery
otakuman
6 years, 8 months ago
BUT YOU'RE SO FUCKING LAZY AND NEVER WORK WITH THE GA- oh... wait.  Nevermind! :P
poep3
6 years, 8 months ago
your an idiot
BunnyHazMat
6 years, 8 months ago
(>o.o)> huggles?
megafat
6 years, 8 months ago
If this is you lightly simmering, i have a fear of pissing you off and your arms coming through the monitor and strangling me.
Zygorth
6 years, 8 months ago
lmao XD
hungryvampyre
6 years, 8 months ago
I hope Avian feels better soon.
Blueset
6 years, 8 months ago
Well, you did kept your promise so props to you both.
truetrue
6 years, 8 months ago
Figures you release the game as promissed and still people are out there bitching.  BTW there's ALREADY a hacked version of the game giving you 500 daily energy and 9999 rings for those out there still bitchin about that, and you can find it in the posts of the game some where.

Anyway, haters hate, trollers troll, Lifes a bitch then you die, the two most common elements in the universe are Hydrgen and stupidity.  Any way I at least am going to thank you for releasing as promised and personally wouldn't have blammed you if instead of posting the game you waited until 11:59 and posted "FU your not getting it till it's done".
xboxgamer64
6 years, 8 months ago
There's a hacked version? Where?
I'l probably not see a reply so you can message me if you want.
megafat
6 years, 8 months ago
I too would like a hacked copy. For research. Into how it breaks the game with it's hacks.

And to feel unaccomplished when I'm finished with it so i can come back to the official version.
truetrue
6 years, 8 months ago
Sorry guys but it looks like the mods took it down already.  Maybe sometime later they'll come out with a new one
canneddynomite
6 years, 8 months ago
you guys are retarded firstly its easy to do and second google is right in your face third I'M NOT GOING TO ADD AN INFINITE TIME OR ENERGY VERSION TO THE GAME AND NO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO HACK IT.  STOP ASKING!
truetrue
6 years, 8 months ago
Funny don't remember ever ASKING you to do anything.  I don't really care, but some people may want a hacked version and I was just letting people know there was one and it's gone now.
melancholy134
6 years, 8 months ago
It's a fun game even without art. Don't let the collective Jethros who don't appreciate the time and effort it takes to put a finished product together out there bring you down.
robertsaltin
6 years, 8 months ago
Am I the only one that's sad that there are no "real" gay interactions? Now this is in no way me asking for them to be added, but it kinda makes Tails more or less usless (unless I'm missing something, if I am don't tell me what).
truetrue
6 years, 8 months ago
Spoilers:

Yep you are, you can jerk one out with Knuckles if you invite him over and watch porn.  Also there's an H scene with tails if you steal Creams swimming top, have a -20 morality, and have them go swimming.  Unfortiantly it's not exactly a volintary scene and Tails will refuse to answer your phone calls afterwords.
deadmanhunter
6 years, 8 months ago
um, i have -22 and the tails scene isn't working, are there other requierments?
truetrue
6 years, 8 months ago
Don't know, Maybe RWC needs to be a certain level.  I got it when I was tryin' to see if there was a three way event with Cream, Tails and Sonic.
Rashira
6 years, 8 months ago
Yes I am slightly disappointed. But it's alright, because I loled at the way that we were denied a yaoi scene with Knux. And then another really awesome thing happened. Due to the funny denial, and awesome compensation, no harm has been done. And you know what they say....No harm, no foul.
robertsaltin
6 years, 8 months ago
I did get a good laugh out of that
DragoonWolf
6 years, 8 months ago
people should just be happy that hes even doing this and has quite because of there bitching
phyrexfirestorm
6 years, 8 months ago
First off, lemme say this. If someone wants to know how to hack it, direct them to me. I will happily walk them through the process. Second, if I find any bugs or whatnot, I try to be as polite as possible when reporting them, and I generally report them via PM. So, with that said, Ima get to playin on that later tonight (after family gets to bed) and will document the bugs/glitches/ erors that may occur. Thanks for the chance to play an awesome game, man. ^_^

If it makes you feel any better, the game has far less bugs than skyrim does, and that's a console game from a major company, lol.
phyrexfirestorm
6 years, 8 months ago
I have to point out (due to the amount of PM's asking this) That I do NOT modify the game in any way. I offer knowledge of how to hack the game using Cheatengine ONLY. I cannot do flash, only watch and decompile it. I only offer this service so people stop badgering about a hacked version or not having the energy for specific actions. This isn't to ruin the game, aand this isnt to detract from the efforts used to produce this excellent work. I'm just trying to take some weight off of avalon's shoulders.

Now for the fun part: I do use cheatengine on this game, but only to enable a playthrough of ALL aspects without worrying over energy level, RWC, coins, etc. After I explore it all, I document the issues, and play it through without the hacking so that I get a real game experience. Afterward, I will report any issues documented to avalon.

So, Avalon, if this is an issue, please let me know. I swear, I dont mean any harm by this, and I am trying to help draw some of the strain off of you. If you don't like this, please PM me and delete both this and the comment above. I will not think less of you.
Twizted666
6 years, 8 months ago
thnx people just needed to be patient good work guys
Latios411
6 years, 8 months ago
Some idiots didn't enable Adult?
X3 What drips!!
truetrue
6 years, 8 months ago
Well trollers aren't exactly known for being the brightest balbs in the pack now are they ;).  I hear most are a few brain cells short of a pair.
NOway
6 years, 8 months ago
Actually I would say that is the wrong causation, most "Trolls" are just stupid dullards that after realising that what they said was so stupid other people thought it was a troll comment, decided to pretend that they were trying to troll all along.

But everyone already knew that...
Ky0suke
6 years, 8 months ago
Thank you for the release... I know we're just a bunch of small voices against the din of haters, but we really do appreciate all the effort you've put forth.
Joeycool1210
6 years, 8 months ago
I played the game and it's great.
Ralax
6 years, 8 months ago
yo avalon! you dun good bro, you dun real good
Sunwolf
6 years, 8 months ago
Me: Aval0nx calm down
Aval0nx: Im calm down!!!...(hardly breathe)
Me: Hey wooo wooo
Trolls appears: blablablablabla
Aval0nx: Can I shoot him?
Me: Not in public....
truetrue
6 years, 8 months ago
Han Solo: *shoots Troll*  I always shoot first
Sunwolf
6 years, 8 months ago
LOL Han solo!!!
quefur
6 years, 8 months ago
HAHAHA the noobs with the adult content turned off... XD
Karitekenji
6 years, 8 months ago
Your a hero bro, patients of a saint for dealing with us
Alfador
6 years, 8 months ago
*hugs* Don't let the haters grind you down.
targetlocker
6 years, 8 months ago
Good bout time you treat thos trolls like the children they are! and to Avian man DONT CHANGE  A THING iv loved your game from the beginning and am willing to wait till it meets urs and everyone elses prospectives this is ur game take ur time to make it how u guys want and to hell with anyone else...and id love to chat over skype when i get time i love a great conversation ;D !

p.s- my only regret is that i cant donate...yet >.> haha damn bank
Artzilla60
6 years, 8 months ago
I love cream saying " how could you do such a thing' after the Sega splash page ROFLMAO!
betatest
6 years, 8 months ago
rofl and i thought my journal entry (on a smiler subject) was long and ranting.  but ya i understand i don't like stupid people either.  I've played a bit of the game and found a few errors just little things.  i see you already have proof readers but would you like me to make a list of these errors?
wish i could help you program flash.  as it sits right now I'm, doing what i can to sit on anybody's live stream so i can learn as they do.  or at least that was the plan.  what's actually harpooning is more along the lines of me enjoying toe company and the conversations to the point i stop paying attention to the flash all together
send my best to Avian I'm programming my own game using a program called RPG maker XP which is deep rooted in visual basic and i know how frustrating programming can be and that's without the  people asking you every 5 minutes "is it done yet"?
bigman
6 years, 8 months ago
Well to all the haters I would block them from ur account.  

But I love the new stuff that was added.
But (more a question) is it me or did the game get harder to get cream to like like u?
slitplayer
6 years, 8 months ago
It's not only you it is harder, it's proberly some glitches here & there, I'am sure Aval0n is checking now.
hopper4269
6 years, 8 months ago
to avian and avalon

 thanks for the game as soon as i play it (just got home from work) i dont care how it is it will be great i wish all my downloaded games worked as well (jlist games .. dcost money too) anyway thanks.

to the whinerbabies.

i have waited patienly for this version for over a year with out complaints these guys did there best with what they have to give us a great "FREE" game so just shut it and and enjoy the game.
ckt1000
6 years, 8 months ago
Isnt it amazing how mad people get over something they arent even paying for like they are freaking entitled because managed to stumble on it. You put some great work out and especially whats been going on throughout this whole project you still never gave up on it and for that i thank you :D
QwertyFlirty1
6 years, 8 months ago
You don't think you're an expert artist? You are.
LordNeroku
6 years, 8 months ago
You know what you should do which would make us all throw streamers in glee? Just kill all the people who complain. We'll all be your alibi.
axxrrl
6 years, 8 months ago
Some people like to whine just ignore them
Pandaskus
6 years, 8 months ago
I liked the game, but the "Special hug" Made feel way to pedo
Saglinger
6 years, 8 months ago
You're babysitting a 12 year old rabbit-girl and you do all sorts of interesting things with her, and that's what makes you feel pedo?

For some reason, your comment made me laugh.
zarek13
6 years, 8 months ago
Aval0n there's an answer to all you problems for all the dickweeds who give you grief...burn them with fire plain and simple and if that doesn't work use more fire and if that don't work either use even more fire.
fluffbunny365
6 years, 8 months ago
Hey avalonX and Avian, Don't listen to the minority of idiots demanding a release or the full version, the rest of us dedicated fans can wait patiently as long as it takes.
squishyman
6 years, 8 months ago
We love you aval0n!! *special hug*
minion0
6 years, 8 months ago
both of you, aval0nx and avian, thanks for the game.
EtStrange
6 years, 8 months ago
The game is pretty nice, can't wait to see the updated art.

And on another note, is it wrong that Aval0n's rant gave me a warm and fuzzy sensation?
bladejtr
6 years, 8 months ago
Anyone with basic game hacking knowledge could hack this (and any flash game) in a few minutes.
It's not hard to do, even easier when you know that all games values are stored in the flash as the value times 8.

This comment is directed at anyone who is trying to ask how to hack it, not at Avalon for not knowing how to himself.
cerhit
6 years, 8 months ago
i think its great and when you release the next one i know it'll be better. thank you for all he hard work.
jurann
6 years, 8 months ago
These kinds of tantrums really make you look immature and unprofessional. If the stress is getting to you that much: 1) don't pay attention to what people have to say (I mean really, it's not like anyone's paying - oh wait, I did contribute...) or 2) don't even bother making the game. From my understanding, you've got private testers filing bug reports or something, and you've flat-out told me my opinions and feedback and assistance is worth nothing, so why do you let anyone get to you? I don't see any of the shit people are throwing at YOU, but when I do see YOU reacting this way (which is to say reacting badly) it certainly does nothing to earn my respect...

But WTF do I know? I've only been working in the gaming industry for the last 20 years and running successful furry businesses for 11.
Aval0nX
6 years, 8 months ago
Dear Jurann let's be very clear on a few simple little details.  First of all in all your 20 years of gaming industry wisdom you've certainly seen a way of communication known as private messaging.  You run your mouth saying that I'm immature and unprofessional by giving what you call "tantrums" such as this.  I however find you are highly unprofessional by choosing to openly post in this mater with the intention to play you little game of rank and file.  ( I have 20 years of experience and you don't, blah blah...)   Lets be very clear on who you are and who I am.  I am NOT a part of this "gaming industry" I have no intention of being a part of it knowing there are assholes like you who treat people like crap and try to belittle others instead of being constructive and giving productive feedback.  I don't care if you've been for more than 11 years in the furry busyness, you've proven to me that you're a total jerk.  If you're so experienced you should know that user feedback is an important part of the business, but then again I'm just a 24yo Computer Programmer graduated with honors, working as an instructor in a University, successfully teaching programming.  (just in case you wanted to continue with your little "let me pull my dick out to see who's is biggest" game).  You tell me not to bother making the game if people get to me so much, it feels like you're trying to make me give up on the project because you don't like it.  It's ok it's perfectly normal, and I don't expect everyone to like the stuff I make.  Why do I bother working on this project, because every day I get hundreds of pageviews, favorites, fan mail, private messages, to show that I have a pretty large fan base that follows me for the stuff I do.  ( I mean you have 20 years of experience and all and I don't have a single one, but in the end  you had your account on FA suspended (here lemme link it for you in case you forgot https://www.furaffinity.net/user/jurann/) and you being as "professional" as you are with your "super awesome auction site", lets see you have 15037page views...that is pretty impressive my friend, I mean, me on the other hand, the poor 24 year old Computer Programming instructor who is not looking to be recognized in either the gaming industry or the...um furry auction thing you do has, with only 42 submissions and 47 journals, 824649 page views (eight hundred twenty four thousand six hundred forty nine) 611746 submission views received, 212903 journal views, 4750 Submissions Favorited, 7033 watchers.  Do you still wanna continue profiling with me?  And you're probably thinking "what a jerk this guy is" sure I'll be a jerk to any jackass that tries to Profile himself and pull rank and file on me when he can barely gather half of the amount of people I can, by simply writing a journal and saying I'm going to draw live tomorrow on livestream.  I'm not looking to gain your respect, and I don't intend on gaining it, I don't need the respect of Jackasses like you.  So I tell you the same thing I tell everyone that seems to have a problem with me, if you have any sort of beef with me you are welcome to give me a call through skype and we'll talk, we'll set each other straight.

TL;DR You're calling me immature and unprofessional, and I'm calling you an unprofessional Jackass then again your profession is not mine so what the hell.  Don't try to profile yourself or pull rank on me just cause you have a "super awesome and successful furry auction site", and last but not least if you're a real man...or a furry wolfy thingy, doggy whatever, if you have the gal to write such a "professional" comment, maybe you'd have the courage to give me a call through skype and say it to my "face".

much love
Aval0nX - WRz
(Computer Programmer and hobby artist)
silverway
6 years, 8 months ago
Yep alot of hard work and care went into making this and good things pay off for those who wait. I've been quiet about it, not like the sky will rain with chocolate flooding us if he delays it. Good thing I like multi tasking with other things to occupy me, keep up the amazing work and best wish to Avian for a good recovery.
Dragonlord354
6 years, 8 months ago
you sir have gained my complete respect and admiration here.
gamexfreak
6 years, 8 months ago
Aval0nX:1 Jurann:0  
:P

btw awesome game i look forward to whenever you are able to release the updates for it such a shame people feel the need to rage and bug you and avian.
slitplayer
6 years, 8 months ago
Actually it's Aval0nX:800000plus  Jurann:15037soso
Glennpauze
6 years, 8 months ago
This was beautiful 3:
megafat
6 years, 8 months ago
If you were here right now i would kiss you.

I mean high five you for being awesome.
ProjectDemise
6 years, 8 months ago
...I love you.  That was beautiful, AvX
Xiggy
6 years, 8 months ago
If i had a hat on id be taking it off right now -claps-

well said and keep on doing what you do best.
LoKFan
6 years, 8 months ago
lolol I like your comment XD and nice pic<3 it's lovely
gintsu
6 years, 8 months ago
Another great moment in troll owning history
dwite
6 years, 8 months ago
And then Avalon goes and PROVES he has no idea how to deal with negative feedback and rolls out another tantrum.  Wonderful.
dwite
6 years, 8 months ago
In fact, no, it's not even negative feedback to the game, it's criticism of Avalon letting himself completely lose control in front of everyone.  Which is about the most unprofessional thing you can do in any situation.
jurann
6 years, 8 months ago
I know, right? Thank you for being honest and not pampering Avalon and rushing to White-Knight him like all of these other mindless plebeians hoping to get some kind of freebie or cookie for clamoring to his defense. It's kind of disgusting and shows the mettle of the people who follow him.

My comment was just leveled at the unprofessionalism of this and the MANY prior rants and tirades that AvalonX has gone on regarding this game - in my industry a developer/writer/producer/artist/etc running at the mouth like this would get them 1) fired 2) screamed at 3) fired 4) accused of creating a PR nightmare and 5) fired. And they'd never likely get hired anywhere else again either. My only point is that, look - if you want some CREDIT and some RESPECT for your work/game/etc then don't be an asshole about it and don't scream at people - let the shit roll off your back and keep your head high, ignore the bullshit and the trolls and the whiners - it's something you have to learn to cope with in the industry damnfast or you lose the bigger game of making games - because every-fucking-body is a critic. Also, Caps Lock ON tantrums are super fucking immature... Just sayin'.
Dansama92
6 years, 8 months ago
I don't consider it letting him lose control. I think he was just adressing people too stupid and impatient who kept bitching and needed to shut up already
desart01
6 years, 8 months ago
jurann is banded for life on furr. and i dont see how someone who is in "THE ARTS" and has never had a submission here has a right to say what he says.He needs to remeber why he was baned from fur before he gets baned from here. And as for avalonx you rule the day and have talent keep at it i have been a fan for almost 3 years now and still an amazed at your work so keep going. to the trolls and haters YOU NEED A LIFE SO GET ONE hope you can read this cant type any bigger than that. forever a fan avalonx in me peace
 
zoso42
6 years, 8 months ago
800k+ page views and all you have to show for a years worth of work is some misspelled words. Well played, sir. Well played.
jurann
6 years, 8 months ago
Dear AvalonX,

How many page views you have on a FURRY SITE is completely worthless compared to the millions and millions of REAL PEOPLE who have purchased games I've worked on in the last 20 years for companies like Square Enix, Electronic Arts, Linden Labs, LucasArts, Microsoft and IMVU. I've done nothing to even insult your game, as you may have failed to notice previously, but more address your BEHAVIOR regarding it, which has been very unprofessional and frankly childish. As someone who claims to be STRIVING and ASPIRING to becoming a professional in the industry with respect and credit, this is NOT the way to go about it, even if this is just a furry hobby front and "on the side" for you. You learn and develop real-world skills by practicing them regularly, and even furry fandom is not too sub-standard to do so in, or would you disagree and say that furries don't deserve your professionalism and best behavior? You might not want to be so fast to try to discredit or write-off someone who could be offering you useful advise or industry insider knowledge, but that's your call. I've offered my assistance on more than one occasion and even donated to this project financially and this is the kind of thanks you give? It's completely indicative of the type of person you are! I never tried to force my way into your project or bully you, but your behavior regarding it is seriously reprehensible. That's my only point in my original criticism, and it has nothing to do with who's dick is bigger, but you seem to need reminders of who's been around the block and has a successful career in the industry.

As for page views and being banned from one of dozens of furry sites - you try voicing a conflicting opinion with Dragoneer in public and see how long you go without getting banned... Pageviews don't mean dick unless you're only out to stroke your ego - it's not a measure of anything but your self-inflation and if you use it for a sense of self-value... Well, that's pretty pathetic. Do I wish I had as many pageviews as you? From the sounds of how much YOU'RE enjoying it, I'd guess not. Have fun with that.

P.S. Just for the record, Caps Lock ragefits are really immature. Really. Think about it...
Deathsmind
6 years, 8 months ago
You still live with your mom so shut up. Get a real job and stop acting like you actually matter in life, because you dont. You havent sold millions of games and you know it. Hes obviously a better person then you will ever be and you just jealous you didnt think of something like this.
slitplayer
6 years, 8 months ago
I,am with you man, this jurann is another a*****e trying to get fame here.
ace2464
6 years, 8 months ago
*clap* Bravo Aval0n. Fuck that little prick.
Dansama92
6 years, 8 months ago
Woah dude. You just went off on this guy in a proffesional way and actually kept cool about it. I don't think you were throwing a tantrum I think you finally had enough of the stupid trollers and wanted to make them stop because they made your friend Avian feel bad. So now I have even more respect for you.
Jiffy18
6 years, 8 months ago
A person as old as yourself should realize this is a perfect storm of circumstance. Many people have been waiting for this game for a long time, so long in fact that many of them forgot how to read. Such things as varying as the nature of this specific release, as well as the simple warning at the beginning of the game. Nonetheless, the wait has created expectation, which no matter how good the game is will result in disappointment. On the other side, Avian and Aval0nx have invested many hours of work into this project, with the only return being the few donations they received, and peoples gratitude. So, when they receive an overwhelmingly negative response, due mainly to many peoples inability to understand written language. Pretending or implying that Avian or Aval0nx should take such stupidity lying down is not only snobbish, it can hardly be called human. Frankly your comments sound like a jaded middle aged man who doesn't understand why no one listens to him anymore, and exposes how much you wanted these "unprofessional" to take you seriously. Someone who is so desperate for attention that they need to tell everyone how long they have been "in the business" is either lying, lonely, or trying to compensate for inability in the bedroom, the only thing you deserve for such a thing is pity.

To Aval0nx - Don't let these creeps and snobs get to you, I can assure you that these cretins will wane. You have done many people a great service, surely they are enjoying the game too much to add their voice to our chorus of support. Thank you for your hard work.
Deathsmind
6 years, 8 months ago
No one cares what the fuck you have to say Jurann. Unless your flipping his bill then you have no say to how he acts. With assholes like you i would do the same thing, inconsiderate about everything. Who cares how he acts? all your going to do is jack off in the first 10 seconds and be done with his game. Let him live his life how he wants. Who said he had to be professional about something everyone is inconsiderate about? If i was me i would have made a release only for people who donated to him fuck all the people who are dicks. Be thankful about something you know nothing about.
Rashira
6 years, 8 months ago
U MAD BRO? -trollface-
Shadowwalk
6 years, 8 months ago
What is wrong with all these impatient folks?  -_-
KillRoy17
6 years, 8 months ago
I like the game; there are several new things to explore and some old stuff to make you feel at home. If it is not working properly in some places, WTF!
I think you two did a great job and I am happy that I can spend some good time with little Creamy!.
So all the haters can go somewhere else and I hope that everyone else enjoys this nice little game just as I do!
Is there a place I can post errors that I have detected while playing?
Otherwise I am looking forward to the art updates!!
Thanks again and live long and prosper!
Reaperlord1
6 years, 8 months ago
this made me lol :3
sneaka
6 years, 8 months ago
AWESOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!its here.. play the game , and have fun.. G`zzzzzzzzz !! those 2 hard working guys, think up this great game , and all a lot of posters do is complain.. I`m thankfull , that 2 smart and talented guys , did this game.. Time to paly and be a p**v...LOL new games and places to go.. Freaking great !! Many THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lost
6 years, 8 months ago
Your grammar is like Nappa; god damn it.
phyrexfirestorm
6 years, 8 months ago
Remember the bug planet, Vegeta?
Rashira
6 years, 8 months ago
If you cannot comprehend any of this, you are probably too young to play this game anyway. The way to access the game has been the same for a year now. If you need to hack the game, you are more than likely too young to be playing this game. Hacking is for 12 year olds with no skill and forever alone men living in their mom's basement with no lives.

If you cannot comprehend what I just said, you're retarded. You might wanna get that checked with a doctor...
gwadzzet
6 years, 8 months ago
Well said my good man!
Nightk
6 years, 8 months ago
why do the biggests idiots on the net keep finding the good sites.


seph450
6 years, 8 months ago
Ignore them all there just asholes n hope avian feels better
talonotw
6 years, 8 months ago
Look at it this way, mate. At the end of the day, you've taken random snippets of code, and by hand have created a game that has had a good portion of the internet abuzz for a year or so. Nothing they can do will take that away. Y'all should be proud of yourselves, even if your opus isn't the kind of thing you can brag about to your kids someday.
MilesRose
6 years, 8 months ago
Calm down, hun! Spewwing vitriol is what they are doing! Don't dip down to that point ^^;
Lost
6 years, 8 months ago
I sat through 5 hours of an offline Livestream chatroom having to repeat to every anon lurker who showed up where the game was and pretty much everything else in this journal. It's legit.
MilesRose
6 years, 8 months ago
I know, but the caps lock D: It huuurts
TheGeek
6 years, 8 months ago
Happy Day the game is here. Thanks for the many hours of fun I've had playing all the versions.
KingFaTe
6 years, 8 months ago
Love you guys, even when this game is finished i wish you well
Aasha
6 years, 8 months ago
Hun, no matter how well you do it there will absolutely *always* be people complaining.

Look at any game online. Their forums are chock full of players insisting the developers are doing it unfairly or incorrectly. Even the f2p games. In fact in my experience the more you give out for free the more entitled the players seem to act about it.

You're already aware they care about the game despite any claims that they may hate it (fandoms do that for some reason. Not even I really know for sure why). You've set out to do what you claimed you and Avian would do. Take pride in that and just accept that no matter how well you do there will simply always be the unpleasable ones - it is the internet after all.

I've been eagerly waiting myself for two years to see this game. I've been a fan since first playing it on e621 years ago and it's the reason I had an Inkbunny account. You've already said before that the art wasn't going to be included so I was expecting to see it was missing - the fact that the others are screaming about it is merely a case of the entitlement issue I mentioned before - they know you weren't goign to include it, but they still want to crack that whip and yell "MORE!!" in the hopes you'll just crack and do it. Those people, while still fans, are trying to play a psychological move that never actually works yet is seen a LOT when fans are talking to developers (I know this from personal experience): Lovers of the game that try to make the devs fear they'll lose the fans if they don't do whatever they demand; usually dropping comments like "I'm not playing this anymore until *** is fixed."

As a developer to something myself (none of it being on FA) I can tell you the best way to deal with people like this, in my experience at least, is to politely ignore the ruder players. Nothing productive takes place for it. It's always the same mind game they try to pull, and it's usually not entertaining to hear (sometimes even completely illogical). Don't announce that you ignore those people of course. Just take it in stride and brush the ranting players off by not acknowledging them at all.

That said... I'm looking forward to updates. :3
KillerK70
6 years, 8 months ago
The games out? Where? Oh look, it's in my New Submissions by artists I'm watching file. Easy as eating perfectly cooled pie.
=P I'm just being difficult. Gonna go and lose my life in the game (whether it's broke or not). I actually spent 3 hours on a flash game that was just a download screen loop once....it was sad when I realized what it was but I just laughed it off.
I'm talking too much...
Anchor
6 years, 8 months ago
Thanks, buddy! I downloaded it and tried it a bit, looks good and I'm happy to have this release. =D
Thanks a million!
Nisse1996
6 years, 8 months ago
Thanks Man!
BeardedFox
6 years, 8 months ago
Sorry man there are just some people out there that never stop complaning
Zylon
6 years, 8 months ago
For what it is worth my Friend, I have been watching for about a year or so and waiting.
So with that being said Great Job man and tell all those haters and ragers to F-Off cause they are just mad they are not as great as u and Avian.
LucMcPhail
6 years, 8 months ago
Seeing as you ARE in the clear here, theres reallyn o reason for flame or hate, I'd say just throw people on the block list. IB DOES allow users to block other users from your userpage.

If its off site, do you host the game there? If you dont, then let them bitch what they want. But if its on IB, delete their comments and block their profiles. Aint worth the stress and future heart attacks =)

The game turned out great and as I find more and more things I'm happier and happier. Sure, its a bit buggy, but we expected  that as a earlier release. As I said previously, sometimes you have to release a rough product and polish it later to keep the playerbase.

If I knew actionscripting and flash I'd gladly help out any way I could. If I had more money in my name, I'd gladly donate all I could.

As for the outbursts, thats the only part I disagree, but I wont say you're wrong to do it. In my opinion, its just bullybait. Bullies push to get a reaction. When they get it, they keep doing it. Dont give them a inch, and start kicking ass if need be. Or, just start populating the ignore list. Any action afterwords, jsut report them for harassment.

Keep up the great work, I look forward to the next installment!
Jajerjack
6 years, 8 months ago
You know, Aval0n, as someone who has followed the game you and Avian are making, I have to say something:

I have yet to be disappointed by any of your releases.  You do such a good job of at least trying to maintain your release dates that I can't complain.  And as much as people complain about a free game being released late, they still buy a $60 game after it gets delayed months (or years for Duke Nukem Forever, which I actually LIKED), and never utter a word.

So, most people are morons (not you patient peoples like me and all the other mellow fans) who don't really know what they want.  Take your time, and I'm sure it will be worth the wait.

Oh, and if I offended anyone in this post...get over it.  As TVTropes says: Good is not nice.
goodwolfhunting
6 years, 8 months ago
hell yeah Jajerjack totally agree!
goodwolfhunting
6 years, 8 months ago
love you guys love your work love this game and really hate the haters so please continue to do what you guys do best and ignore all the people that try to put you down.
Deathsmind
6 years, 8 months ago
Just tell them to fuck off Aval0nX, unless they are paying your house bill then they have no right to say anything to you. This is a project you made for fun and it was a success and for some reason that means you have to work for them now, which is bullshit.

 I just want to say thank you for all the work you have done to this game, im not even into furry and when i saw this game i fell in love. I have been keeping track of the progress of this game since its been posted on other sites, just a couple weeks ago i was craving this game and found out you were almost done.

Thank you for all your hard work, making a game isnt some easy thing that everyone thinks it is. There is so much shit you have to go through and i just want to say thanks. Thank you for all your hard dedication and putting up with all the bullshit. I know i woudnt have went through with making this game if i had so much hate, let them go jack off to other shit. But thanks.
furrymag
6 years, 8 months ago
love the game as it is, but love some more art so i was wondering, any idea when you'll update? No flaming or pushing intended, just wondering
MathiasSilvers
6 years, 8 months ago
Don't let anyone tell you you haven't done anything. This is a great milestone, and I'm glad you've taken the time, effort, and patience not only with the game... but with the rest of the community that just can't comprehend what a hard project this was.

Well done, you thank my sincere thanks.
ART15
6 years, 8 months ago
" PS: I'm not boiling angry I'm just lightly simmering

oh really? LOL
Zeikfried
6 years, 8 months ago
Should have packed that worm with the game like I suggested.  Then you can find those people and punish them.
Suic132
6 years, 8 months ago
To be frank my hand hurts so I didn't even notice when there was an error or something -.-
Yo saw the amount of people that were there when you released the game ^^ Trolls are a minority
Spleenfizz
6 years, 8 months ago
We still love you Avalon.
After checking this site daily just for this game i have to say-
I am NOT disappointed.
milothedog
6 years, 8 months ago
hi any one who wants to know a good way of building your relationship with cream is to go to the mall and just play the dancing game over and over again as you get +10rwc and costs you 10 rings and 2 energy which means you can get a maximum of +500rwc points in one day only drawback is that will take all your rings.
peppe12
6 years, 8 months ago
Just ignore them! A big big thank you for what you do, guys... :) There are some people ( the big part ) that really appreciate your work!
chrirus
6 years, 8 months ago
Guys u r the very best;). Dont think of the stupid other who hate u.
Ur game is the best and reached germany too;););)
mylilsecret24
6 years, 8 months ago
Since you already have much of the art made for a new update, are you going to add it in, fix bugs people report, and make a rather quick update? (A month or so) Im just wondering because Ive seen a lot of new art you've made, so Im wondering if you are going to make a lot more before the next update.
henness
6 years, 8 months ago
let 'em have it
Gaito
6 years, 8 months ago
Aval0n, you're my hero. Doing all this work for a free game, putting up with the trolls, and still manage to keep working. You're an inspiration to aspiring coders like I am. Good on you, mate. Keep up the amazing work.

Oh, and do your game your way, you don't need to add infinite time or anything like that, do it the way you think it should be done.

(But if you do consider something like infinite time, you can have it so that after Vanilla gives you the keys, you can do like a playable epilogue, keep fooling around with Cream as long as you want. But again, do the game you wanna do it.)
ace2464
6 years, 8 months ago
Reading your recent posts (and commenting) before I even open the game. I wanted to thank you ahead of time for putting time into a game that over half of us don't deserve.
HPHovercraft
6 years, 8 months ago
The game is fine, your professionalism is not.   You've done nothing but bitch about having to do this the whole time.  If you're sick of getting shit from people, then stop working on the game or disable comments on your journal and don't visit areas where people discuss the game.  You do nothing but give people more reason to dislike you by acting like this.  You're just fueling the fire.

It doesn't matter how good your game is, if you act like a child throwing a tantrum, people are gonna say something about it.  You need to grow up and realize that doing this is in no way a good thing.  It does nothing but reveal how irresponsible, unprofessional and childish you are.  Not only that, you act like this to the people that are actually friendly and kind to you.   You're the worst kind of person and you have no one to blame but yourself for all the grief you get.

You hold pageviews and popularity over people's heads in an attempt to validate that being an asshole to everyone is perfectly fine because you believe your 'fans' will blindly follow you and love everything you do.  You say you don't care if someone dislikes your work, but your behavior betrays that statement.

You're a petty, pathetic, pedophilic furry.  You have no right to hold yourself above anyone.

jurann
6 years, 8 months ago
Here-here, and all of the unadulterated White-Knighting and ego-stroking by the retarded loyal fanbase is doing WONDERS for him becoming any more responsible, too... Anyway, if it helps validate your standpoint any better, just know that he'd never be able to get and keep a job in the real gaming industry - if word ever got out that he worked on a game like this, he'd be crucified by game companies and gamers alike. =)
dwite
6 years, 8 months ago
Thirded.  And as someone who has worked in PR, I can say with full certainty that nuclear hissy fits like these would be career-ending in the real world.  The game industry is supremely dog-eat-dog and people lose their jobs over far less than the frankly shocking level of immaturity and unprofessionalism we're seeing out of Avalon here.
Dansama92
6 years, 8 months ago
Well wouldn't that all depend on what game industry he wanted to go to? I mean there are how many sex, and sometimes (rarely) loli games that have been made and bought. Sure none of them are in the US but still. I mean I'm pretty sure not ALL gaming industries would look at this and say "Look at what this guy made. He definetly isn't someone that belongs in our company." And reject/fire him. Also I'm sure that if he did get a job in a community he wouldn't do something like this post. I mean how would he? Find all the emails and send his "hissy-fit" message to them all? For some reason I doubt it. I would like to think the only reason he's doing it now is because 1) its HIS game, 2) He was mad that the critics were getting to Avian just because they (critics) didn't know how to read and 3) he can just by posting this online where its allowed and so he can be heard.
jurann
6 years, 8 months ago
How about this: Why not just take the high road and ignore the haters and stay upbeat and positive? It's good for morale and for PR - just because you WANT to scream in Caps Lock at the dissenting portion of your fan-base doesn't mean you SHOULD.
endlust
6 years, 8 months ago
True but what Aval0nix said to you during his rant is still relevant. You're right that he should handle fan feedback better but you can't criticize him for being unprofessional while being unprofessional yourself. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, right? He's right, you should have contacted him privately and discussed his unprofessionalism. Not blasted him on his journal for everyone to see. You being the veteran, should set an example for him and other aspiring developers. What example have you set here?
Ohgun312
6 years, 8 months ago
Ah... The trolls must be trying to get you again, Aval0n? I understand that a great game will usually take months maybe years to complete, and the Babysitting Cream game is no different. If I was as stressed out and pressured as you were I wouldn't let the trolls get to me. Instead I would just stay calm and keep working, and feel free to take a break once in a while. Relaxing activities can help keep our sanity in check. As a sheep from the game Catherine would say: "Those who panic die first."
Dansama92
6 years, 8 months ago
I agree with you people are stupid and if something isn't right there telling them what to do like a flashing neon sign they automatically freak out and get pissy. In high school I had to make a simple animation for a class and that took a long time by itself so I can't even imagine what its like to make a whole game. You two have lives outside making this game and anyone who doesn't realize that has no life.  Please take your time, tell Avian he has no reason to be sad and to relax. I look forward to your updates, no matter what it is or how long it takes. Good day to you both.
Xxane91
6 years, 8 months ago
good job on the game, and for all the people who seem to live only to criticize their hard work, you all need new lives. it is not your place to destroy their vision. as for the next edition i would like it to be released soon to but i've helped friends with games and it's not easy to turn a vision into a work of art, they have the right to take as long as they need and you should be happy they do because the more time they spend the less problems there are and the better the game can be as a whole. i've said what i needed and if you don't like it leave, it's not like you'd be missed to much. i will say i'm sorry if anyone is offended by any of this but it's just something that needed to be said.
Sexrex721
6 years, 8 months ago
great job with the game pal ^^, meh here always look forward to unfinished projects from several artists and never ask them to rush things up, I know between RealLIfe & Online work the lacking of time is one thing, and since only a few (but awesome guys) help you with it there there is better quality , here loving the game so far heh.

Gotta admit would love another cheat version where your energy doesn't drop but what fun would that be? lol, really enjoyed the game my friend, keep the good stuff going, tons of thanks and hugs ^^
nashan13a
6 years, 8 months ago
i just wanted to say thank you.
FuzzFace
6 years, 8 months ago
caps made it harder to read, actually. It's hard to read something when a word takes up more space than ones peripheral vision.
furryisAOTAY
6 years, 8 months ago
Its so hilarious how Jurann keeps coming back to this post just to see what Avalonx fans have to say. I really hope that i have never bought a game u have worked on. 20 years in the game industry and 11 auctioning of furry toys... that's 31 years in total. So you must be over 40 or maybe 50, if so you need to grow up dude i mean really dude.....really.


AVA, you should be proud of this game you put in blood, tears, and sweat working your ass of on this project. with a team of just two men plus testers and no financial backing. Someone else might have quit but u just kept on TRUCKING.... BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO... cant wait for future updates
DeRubeis
6 years, 8 months ago
Aval0n You say your not experts but you guys still manage to make one hell of a great game. Even with all the BS some people gave you. Hope you guys make moar games in the future. But if you decide not to you guys can be proud of what you have already acomplished. That all goes for you to Avian and evoryone ells who helped make this amazing game. Keep up the great work. :)
Arious
6 years, 8 months ago
I at least haven't been on your case about getting out the game, like I said a while back, you'll be done when your done and not before I certainly am not going to stress you out about it like some have.  Your a good sort and you've been doing a great job, it's all an issue of time I know and I'm not going to get on your case about it.
Moax
6 years, 8 months ago
it doesn't save for me
CaptianEinsteinAlucard
6 years, 8 months ago
the games awesome thanks for posting it
thatninetailedfox
6 years, 8 months ago
I suppose I am a "loving caring, patient, inteligent, perceptive fans who know and understand what it takes to work on a project like this and that support us no matter what..."

No offense to the artists, but I like the storyline better than the actual art segments. The story lets you build the picture in your head instead of the artist's interpretation, a lot of the time void of certain details you would imagine. (the first harry potter movie I watched made me say WTF... they cut out half the book)

Personally I would prefer an older version of Cream, huge age gaps kinda read as Creepy to me. (No offense to you creepy people :) )

So I am glad you guys took the time to develop and introduce an updated version of this game even if its not completed yet.

Thanks for your hard work :)
Weehee
6 years, 8 months ago
Oh just noticed you released the game! Awesome! Been waiting a long time, glad you guys worked it out :) Thanks for all of your hard work, don't pay any attention to the trolls anymore. Trolls gonna troll, right? Peace.
andy1985
6 years, 8 months ago
you make good games mate take your time all these jer wads will just butch anyway if you rush it that it is'nt good wnough so good work mate you have supporters here as well as whingers
alonzo999
6 years, 8 months ago
thumbs up and also from people that i know and this is not from
me it from people i know

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also this flash is to easy to change
alonzo999
6 years, 8 months ago
also i was messing with the flash and i found some ways to cheat days rwc and ect

[img]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/828/toeasy.png/[/img]

or just the url: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/828/toeasy.png/
" alonzo999 wrote:
thumbs up and also from people that i know and this is not from
me it from people i know

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also this flash is to easy to change
thatninetailedfox
6 years, 8 months ago
Anyone can cheat in any flash really easily... all you need is access to Google, half a brain, and Cheat Engine.

Side note...

LOL you guys must really hate Tails
EphraimBear
6 years, 5 months ago
Sorry you and Avian are getting hatemail about your game. I like the changes and multiple outcomes. Looking forward to any further top layer art you'll add but the narratives you've provided are quite enjoyable as well. No criticism here. You're doing a good job. Hope you keep going and add me to any notices of updated versions, please. *smiliing bear."
Tagahanga
6 years, 5 months ago
some people don't understand the creative . . .  
true art takes patience and time
they just want to use, abuse, and destroy.
the lot of humanity, except for a precious few
Theslain17
6 years, 3 months ago
this has to be one of the most fine flashes i have ever played thank you
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