I never believed on ad-block.. but.. by bbmbbf < Journal

Weiss

5 years, 9 months ago

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Does it happen on EVERY video? Cause i know the video poster can choose how many adds to show on each video. I'm not surprised they show MORE adds since Youtube's monitezation is ass these days

bbmbbf

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ Weiss

yes.. it appearing in each video, is like i can't focuse ont he information because i have to keep closing and closing the damn banner :(

Weiss

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ bbmbbf

I guess Youtube changed that and it's no longer up to the video poster to choose how many adds the video has. But if it's just a banner is suppose they aren't AS bad as midroll adds, those are the real pain. For me at least

leinad56

5 years, 9 months ago

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youtube hizo qué?
sonara loco, pero una "anomimo" reclamo como suyo los derechos de autor de una radio pixelado del videojuego Mappy de namco, como suyo en furaffinity, y me borraron mi canal por infringir derechos de autor, por dicha imagen, la cual la usaba en un segmento de radio local.

bbmbbf

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ leinad56

y no pudiste reclamar?.. que injusto suena eso!

leinad56

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ bbmbbf

pues mande pruebas, respuestas, capturas de pantalla, pero al menos me regresaron algunos de mis videos,

specterHSC

5 years, 9 months ago

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It's not just you. there are a good amount of videos now that have 2 - 4 ads through out the video depending on the channel and how popular they are.

AutumnCore

5 years, 9 months ago

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That's the main reason I use Ad-Block.

bbmbbf

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ AutumnCore

but I feel bad for the video producers, they deserve to be payed, but I don't think that's the apropiated way, I don't mind the ad video at the beggining , you close it and that is.. but watching a banner each few minutes on the video is really distracting

AutumnCore

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ bbmbbf

I know they deserve to be payed, but like you said it is not the appropiate way to use ads.

Nymousano

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ bbmbbf

I might be wrong, but AFAIK, the users get their money regardless if we use ADBLOCK or not. I use it from the day on I took notice of it.

KINGandQUEENofEPIOKS

5 years, 9 months ago

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well i use it simply because i have lost a lot to a virus via youtube and ever since that day i have never trusted ad's on youtube

lots of my accounts got hacked and it took me almost a entire year to recover from i still to this day get phishing e-mail's almost 5 times a week

at least i now know how to handle them

bbmbbf

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ KINGandQUEENofEPIOKS

Virus on ads? O_o wow

Weiss

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ bbmbbf

You didn't know? Add banners are SUPER susceptible to viruses

Nymousano

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ Weiss

Right; happens all the time. It´s not that every add is infected, but even I, using ADBLOCK, get the one or other add now and then, and accidently clicking on one of them got me a block from my virus scanner (GDATA Total Protection) because of phishing alert.

Weiss

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ Nymousano

That's always a pain, when adds bypass addblock

doomcup

5 years, 9 months ago

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Ads have absolutely no respect for you. I once had to use a browser on somebody else's computer that had no adblock and I found that there are ads that pretend to be download links on software projects' download pages, amongst other terrible stuff.

If you want to support somebody, do it directly via donations. Starve the ad cancer beast.

Nymousano

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ doomcup

"Your computer needs to be repaired!", and shit like this, amirite? XD I know them too.

doomcup

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ Nymousano

Oh yeah. Plus those ones that make you have to forcibly shut down the browser to get out of them.

AngelCam7

5 years, 9 months ago

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If it's just an ad banner, then it's just a minor inconvenience. I'd take those banners over a video interrupting my viewing experience any time.

bbmbbf

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ AngelCam7

maybe because i don't see the videos on full screen (my screen is big and i'm too close to the screen, so proportionally is taking a bigger space I guess, and is really hard to ignore.

Xennos

5 years, 9 months ago

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that's the whole reason I'm using one now. If it's like before where it's a small banner in the bottom or only appeared at the beginning then it's fine by me. Hell I'm actually enjoy watching them before as sometime it can be informative...But now it's like once every 10 minutes of video times or at random interval. It's a clear intention on YouTube part to deny our rights to choose.

Jewelwriter

5 years, 9 months ago

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IT'd depend on the vid maker... so beware of the countdown artist who part their numbers with a commercial.

Weiss

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ Jewelwriter

Not these kinds, not the banners. Video makers only have control over MIDROLL adds, not the banners

Themeanmouse

5 years, 9 months ago

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I've had adblock since forever, it was over 5 years before I realized Youtube actually had commercials!

caramelthecalf

5 years, 9 months ago

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I pay for the youtube premium service. The benefit is they remove the advertisements, and there is some bonus content. Anytime there would have been an advertisement, youtube supposedly compensates the content creator (as long as their video was monetized in the first place).

I rarely use a premium service of any sort, but considering how much I listen to youtube videos while i draw, it seems reasonable.

bbmbbf

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ caramelthecalf

I tried that option, but is not available in Peru (and that's very stupid)

ColeSutra

5 years, 9 months ago

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I started using an ad-blocker on youtube when I started running into unskippable 3-minute long ads before and DURING videos. Will turn it off for certain content creators if I'm going to be binging a playlist. But it stays on for all rabbit-hole browsing.

Nymousano

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ ColeSutra

Yeah, they´re especially fun while listening to a music post... -.- That´s why I don´t use webplayers anymore.

zyfer

5 years, 9 months ago

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If you install Adblock.. i suggest installing Ublock Origin.. not the actual one called Adblock since they started allowing companies to pay to bypass adblock.

I wouldn't mind watching ads if 1. there wasn't so many 2. didn't have a chance to contain spyware/malware 3. contained a lot of tracking software that ends up slowing your browser down.

If i allowed ads i'd probably have to reinstall OS much more often and wouldn't have a retarded amount of tabs open in my browser... (atm it's 275.. i have a problem).

Nymousano

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ zyfer

I use both of them. And you´re right, Ublock Origin is a great tool to defend yourself.

Alfador

5 years, 9 months ago

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I use uBlock everywhere because of the tons of malware that keep slipping through otherwise. No exceptions.

Waccoon

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ Alfador

This. Ever since they came out, I recognized ad blockers as security tools.

If web sites were sane, they'd use self-hosted ads. Not only are they more secure, but they're pretty much impossible to block. But ad companies won't allow that, because their whole business model revolves around compromising security and privacy.

Killereye

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ Waccoon

"ad blockers as security tools."

+∞

Mewtwolover

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ Waccoon

"	Waccoon wrote:
	If web sites were sane, they'd use self-hosted ads. Not only are they more secure, but they're pretty much impossible to block.

Actually they would still be easy to block.

Waccoon

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ Mewtwolover

Ad blockers work by the blacklist method, blocking by registered paths to known ad servers. Self-hosted images and scripts can't be distinguished from genuine content, especially if name rotation is used.

Yeah, cat-and-mouse and all that, but it's still way easy to block 3rd party ads. Blocking 1st party content reliably is really hard.

whitepawrolls

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ Alfador

"ad blockers as security tools."

Add another +1 to this :)

lucashoal

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ Alfador

Same, and have been for years. The internet is dangerous otherwise.

Waccoon

5 years, 9 months ago

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YouTube lost the plot a long time ago when they decided to move the video controls OVER the video rather than under it. Obscuring content is the natural design rule of the web these days, even when it doesn't involve trying to make money.

Annoyingly, after the Adpocalypse, content creators have also been adding tons more ads and endorsements into their videos on top of what YouTube is doing. It's gotten so bad I don't watch as much online video as I used to.

Braves26

5 years, 9 months ago

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Eh. If the Youtuber is making any reasonable amount of money from their channel, its likely from an external source like Patreon. Google ad revenue is pretty slim for anyone short of several million subscribers. Ads are incredibly toxic (to say nothing of data tracking) so I just always leave adblocks on. If I think the content's worth it, I'll donate.

kamperkiller

5 years, 9 months ago

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Edited 5 years, 9 months ago by Owner

Yep its part of their new bullshit. Can't even skip many of the skippqble ads on yt tv. Worse still they violate yt's own noise rules

MrZero

5 years, 9 months ago

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They just don't get the message that we use adblock because they refuse to behave themselves/ not be annoying. Somebody wrote the adblock program and it's popular because it fills a need- a need for them to shut up!

Killjoy

5 years, 9 months ago

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nah, its getting bad. I've used ad blocker for ages and I didn't even know there were commercials on youtube till I started using my work laptop. The new thing they do is having the things pop up at the last few seconds of a video and block most of it.

Scoutter

5 years, 9 months ago

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Since most people use AD-block every video is multiple block advertised now. So its normal you get multiple banners or overlay videos per YT-vid.

IGSA101

5 years, 9 months ago

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I used to get ads that were literally longer then the videos themselves.

Killereye

5 years, 9 months ago

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Edited 5 years, 9 months ago by Owner

When U2B started to have the tiny ad bar, I haven't got any problem with that at first. Then my system was infected by a malware. Got it removed, but several new ones just kept coming. I didn't know how the new ad system works anymore, since I haven't got any malware at all once I started using ad blocking software. Sadly, I have to protect my system against malicious programs, that are infecting the OS. If the adverts were 100% safe and checked and also not too agressive and frequent, I would consider, turning off the ad blocking software for that site - not just for U2B. But not until the site itself takes responisbility and effort to make their ads safe. And that is just one site, what about the rest??? There should be a www-law to regulate how online ads could work! Motto would be: short, sillent/low tone, safe, rare to uncommon to appear / non-harrassing / 1ad/30 minutes ...or something like that. Ads need to be controlled, and as long as they aren't, I am forced to look at ad blocking softwares as security tools.

On my moblie I watch every U2B advert because they are 5 seconds long and appear on the start of the video...It appears, done, I can enjoy my video. Plain and simple. Like the time (5 seconds) is too short to make the effort to cancel the ad even. Done and watch is a nice way to go...and its safe...I hope.

Ravi

5 years, 9 months ago

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The unskippable ads were some of the worst. Ads that last like 2 minutes at a time and you have to watch 15 secs.

I stopped using ad block for a little while but then after seeing how bad ads got I put it right back on. Its not as bad on mobile from my own experiences and I tend to use that a little more when not on my own PC.

AurumG

5 years, 9 months ago

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There's another that has ads on a constant loop, so the unmutable ads never stop making sound.

JinxMcKenzie

5 years, 9 months ago

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ad block plus has been saving me from annoying and unfair ads since forever

SerraRoyale

5 years, 9 months ago

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I will admit I use ad block. but I disable it on the channels I am subscribed too. but even then it's starting to get insane

ChaosSabre

5 years, 9 months ago

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I personally haven't seen a ad on youtube in forever.

Hoshiko

5 years, 9 months ago

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If you watch 1000 videos by a youtuber with ads they get like 0.05$ from it. So just use an adblocker, save your time and send the ones you actually like a dollar. That´s far more support than they will ever receive from your ad-time

FumblingFoxpaws

5 years, 9 months ago

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I've been using adblockers for a long time. My number one reason was security, number two to optimize the internet experience. Some sites tended to go overboard with their ads, not only making the sites painful to look at, but also slowing the computer down. Since some (if not most) of them started whitelisting ads, I moved on to uBlock.

It's easier to block everything and then whitelist the sites you frequent to and "trust" if you want to give your support. If you're concerned about malware you need to remember that even trusted sites can be infectious nowadays, so whitelisting a site is rather a big tip of the hat from me, I admit.

DevilishGenesis

5 years, 9 months ago

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I don't mind some ads. Now and then I'll sit through one if it seems interesting, or somehow appeals to an interest. But when I'm watching a five minute video, and I find that rare 30 minute unskippable ad, I refresh and try again. If the ad is six times the length of the video, f*** it, I'll try again for the 30 second ad. But that's not as bad as The Twitch app lately. I like watching Zero Punctuation, when Yahtzee demonstrates the week's reviewed game, or when he streams a game he's playing with his girlfriend. What I don't like are twenty minute ads every five minutes, with no option to skip.

TV Tropes is sometimes as bad, and some wikias are guilty of this as well, with ads that straight up hijack you to a 'your computer/phone/device is infected' page, if it isn't a 'you have just won X'. Well, f*** me, but let me go back at least. I have to close the tab, and search again. It's so bad lately I leave the search page open while opening my intended page in a new tab. Most of those just flat-out bypass ad blockers.

I get it, ads help sites mitigate costs. Fair enough, I understand. But at some point, you'll get less traffic, so you need more ads, which drives more people away. Add a skip button and it solves both issues. You get the ad revenue, I can skip the bulls***, everyone's happy... ish.

whitepawrolls

5 years, 9 months ago

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Heh those guys get WAY more than you think they do so I don't feel bad at all for using ad blockers. One guy I know of living off youtube alone just buys, mods, and sells or gives away high end and supercars off what he males alone as an example.

SissyLeo

5 years, 9 months ago

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Honestly, I only got mine since it also blocks the browser tracking cookies sites put on your system. Stood them from reporting back basically.

MviluUatusun

5 years, 9 months ago

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I don't think ad blockers will help on YouTube. I've got an ad blocker on my computer and, when I watch videos on YouTube, I have to deal with the ads.

xcar

5 years, 9 months ago

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A veces me ha pasado, lo peor es cuando al iniciar un video, aparece uno en el que tienes que esperar varios segundos antes de cerrarlo, pero se vuelve molesto cuando lo que te aparece es el mismo video una y otra vez. Recuerdo que antes podías decir que no querías ver ese video de nuevo, pero ya no se puede.

vaston64

5 years, 9 months ago

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Install it. Website ads slows down the video and causes a virus to install on your computer.

Weiss

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ vaston64

Not ALL add banners have viruses in them. And you only get infected if you CLICK the banner

Namingway

5 years, 9 months ago

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@ Weiss

I have to contradict you on that last part. If you stumble on a page that has a compromized ad, depending on which security flaws the virus targets, you can end up infected immediately.

In fact, being burned by this is what caused me to be much less generous with whitelisting websites...

Xavkitsune

5 years, 9 months ago

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I pay most of my favored creators on patreon, that is how I justify using adblock

ReiFelinus

5 years, 9 months ago

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Dont know what other have said above this but according to a lot of youtubers they dont get as much money from ads as they used to, a lot of them rely on sponsors, patreon, and merch to get their money.

angel85

5 years, 9 months ago

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I have noticed more ads on videos, even ones that are less than 10 minutes long. Plus it isn't always a banner, sometimes it's one of those commercial ones that interrupts the video playback. I don't mind so much if I'm supporting a creator, but most of the obnoxious ones are on videos that are monetized by some giant corporate entity who claimed the music on it or something.

Nymousano

5 years, 9 months ago

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Well, sometimes I´m willingly watching commercials on YT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck14LKBI9GM

wollypegger

5 years, 9 months ago

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Ad Block will not help much if you can't get the source URL for the ad.

kaijubunny

5 years, 9 months ago

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i've noticed that too, where it'll play the 15 second commercials that can't be skipped over and over again. i saw the same Skyscraper commercial 4 times in a row on a video that was a little over 13 minutes long

JackDesert

5 years, 9 months ago

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That and Many of the people don't even get the Ad money in the end.
There's a few that have commented on that they had ads all through the videos, stopping you every few minutes and then they got ZERO because they had an animation, or not long enough even if it's nearly half an hour, of some strange rule that's buried in the fine print.

Fleetpaw

5 years, 9 months ago

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I think it's the way that the person has it set up, unlike me I have the ad set to either before or after the video that way I know I'm in control though YouTube hasn't paid me so that now sucks

Skash

5 years, 7 months ago

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use VPN, change your browser location to New York, set your address to Wall St, et vola, Youtube Premium is offered on your screen

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