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Patreon // JUNE 2018 big changes

Hey everyone! Here's another little update about my all Patreon situation.

As you probably know already (check out my previous journals here: https://inkbunny.net/j/316381-horserov-patreon-suspende... & https://inkbunny.net/j/317577-horserov-patreon-suspende... ), my Patreon accout has recovered from a recent suspension due to policy infrangement. As controversial and stressing the situation could be, May Payouts were processed anyways and I've successfully rewarded all of my Patrons, either them being gold or platinum. A happy ending, you could think... Sort of, sort of! The whole situation actually made me face off with some very important topics.

First of all, my original intent when I first started this channel on Patreon. I wanted to push myself to create some original contents, something lesser mainstream than my usual commissions, something to keep my creativity flowing. As time passed by, though, I think I've lost that view from my perspective and started sticking to the same painterly style - quite unconsciusly, if you ask me... It wasn't bad, but then again, I was falling again into repetition. I also started rewarding my Gold Tier Patrons with some doodles, trying to find a way to produce some faster sketches, maybe focusing on dinamism and shapes... I failed. Those are more like "sexy pinups" than "experimental doodles" in my eyes... Good pinups? Probably yes, but not what I was looking for.

Secondly: Patreon crap. Their rules are very generic when it comes to adult artworks, which is something I draw very frequently. They basically lack of any distinction between real life pornography and fictional art, something quite unforgivable for a platform that should support artists - no matter what they produce and create. Also, it seems like they cannot admit any Adult artwork to be publicly visible on your profile, even though it's correctly flagged as "adult explicit contents", a little trick that pretty much makes nonsense to use their Early Access option when it comes to adult artworks. This all policy crashes so deeply within me I originally thought to close my Patreon account once and forever, out of anger and frustration... Especially due to the sudden and without preliminary notification suspension. But it appears there's no alternative, even Ko-fi seems to be not on the same level.

The whole experience made up my mind and so here's what's gonna happen starting from June 2018, just in a few days:

THE PAYWALL SYSTEM: I tried to fight it and I've lost. Patreon is a paywall site, and there's no way around it when it comes to adult artworks. I'm sorry to all of you who could be disappointed about it, you can only imagine how pissed I am: for months I tried with all my efforts to overcome this but the only way would be to stop drawing NSFW art. I've absolutely no intention of doing so. A little compromise I reached is to make this paywall system more of a "paystep": in fact, you'll just need to pledge 1$ per month to unlock my artworks.

THE REWARD TIERS. I'll have only three available tiers on my account:
► Bronze (1$/month): unlock all my visual contents and notifications about pools and weekly streamings.
► Silver (5$/month): all the Bronze benefits, plus a weekly PSD file sharing.
► Gold (50$/month): all the Silver benefits, plus a single character color illustration. Only 10 Gold tier slots will be available and those are gonna be reset at the end of each month, allowing everyone to get a chance at snatching a slot. Details and restrictions will be clearly explained & displayed.

That's it. As usual, I want to thank you for supporting me on there, for all your counselling and support and encouragement. I'm not gonna leave Patreon yet, but this is how it's gonna change starting from next month. Take care!
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Added: 5 years, 10 months ago
 
Hoshiko
5 years, 10 months ago
Pixiv has recently launched their own patreon. It will still take some time for it to be usable to the western world, but they allow all drawn content. Maybe an option once it gets english translation.
horserov
5 years, 10 months ago
Definitely! I'll be waiting for english updates :)
Kosmo
5 years, 10 months ago
so does that mean your art will be flatout patron exclusive now? or will we still be able to see it on IB a few weeks later or something?
horserov
5 years, 10 months ago
I will probably share those from time to time... We'll see about that :)
Ravi
5 years, 10 months ago
Man the whole patreon adult content thing is really annoying. Some people seem like they really can't differentiate from stuff in reality and what goes on in fantasy. Its a bummer but hey, at least you were able to have your account restored and brought back up and everything's more or less back in order.

As for your art in the future, I'd just be happy to keep on seeing it, you do great work after all!
horserov
5 years, 10 months ago
Thank you so much! I hope having no more torubles like that suspension for the future... :)
DreamAndNightmare
5 years, 10 months ago
I wish you nothing but the best for the future. I am glad that you are willing to strive for what you want and not bow down to fit their standard. The things you describe are pretty frustrating as I am also planning on creating a Patreon page in the future and just the same don't want my Patreon to become a paywall.

I applaud you for drawing what you draw and doing what you think is best. You're a great artist and I love seeing your work. So best of luck with your efforts in the future! Let's hope Patreon will stay off your back from now on.
horserov
5 years, 10 months ago
Thank you so much! Hopefully it's not gonna happen again, and this served me as a lesson (trying to see the positive side of that LOL). Good luck to you as well for your Patreon channel! Hopefully my story helped you and others out and warned you about some dangerous things to do and not do there :)
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