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horserov

Patreon suspended // Updates

Hey folks! Thank you all so much for all your support and encouragement around my previous Journal... It was so heartwarming! I decided to write another journal to keep you all updated about the develops of my Patreon Temporary Suspension.
 
" What happened? On May 3rd my Patreon channel got temporarily suspended, suddenly and without any preliminary notification of sort. The same day I received an email from the Trust & Safety team of Patreon, notifying the suspension for violating our Community Guidelines (non-consensual sex, bestiality, incest, and sexualized depictions of minors). Also, they stated I cannot have any adult content or nudity present or linked to in any public part of my Patreon page, even if your page is marked as 'adult content'. Luckly enough I menaged to get my May payout and so all monthly rewards are granted.


As dumb and sexophobic this sounded, I counld't do much about it: I just had to purge every cub-related content from my Patreon page and had to manually re-label every single adult picture with the "Patron Only" tag, making it the frustrating Paywall system I tried to fight the all past year. Anger and frustration around this brought me to consider closing my account on Patreon but, giving it some thought, I decided to change it as follows:

GOLD TIER CHANGE
Starting from June, the Gold Tier will no longer be rewarded automathically with a doodle reward: it will radically change! It's gonna be turned back to a 10$ monthly tier and will be a luck roulette with a monthly extraction of a lucky winner to get a icon/badge/portrait of a single character!
 
PLATINUM TIER CHANGE
Starting from June, the Platinum Tier will rise to 50$ and all slots will be cleared out. While I am receiving a constant support from my top Patrons (and I'm so grateful for it!), many many people cannot get the same artworks for a super discounted price. A lot of people complained about the fact my short number of slots and the fact they cannot snatch one, since it seems like my top Patrons are automathically re-pledging on them. That's why I decided to give it a chance, for what is worth, and The Platinum Tier will be cleared out at the end of each month, allowing new Patrons to get the Platinum Tier. Of course, I need to apologize to my Platinum Tiers for this action and I'm grateful for every month of their kind support... I just need to get back to the original intent of my Patreon channel: to experiment with styles, with artistic stuff, with new concepts! While I noticed I am falling always under the same kind of rewards - not all the time, y'know, just most of times. So I beg you to understand my actions. Thank you!
 
► I will no longer accept cub-related requests trough my Patreon page. All my cub related stuff will be kept to Inkbunny (and maybe Sofurry).

Early Access option on Patreon: due to their superdumb adult content policy this option became obsolete. I will no longer use the it and my Patreon will still have adult contents on it, but you'll need to become a Patreon to see those. I'm sorry, it doesn't depend on my will!

That's all for now! Thank you for keeping up with me, for supporting me and for all your messages and words of encouragement! A special thanks to all my Patrons, this is not gonna take me down!

NOT YET! OwO
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Added: 5 years, 11 months ago
 
JoshiWashi12345
5 years, 11 months ago
Fucking assholes :/

At least you can cub-related secretly without patreon and find a way to earn commissions from that later on. Maaan...I love your cub artwork lol
Keeran
5 years, 11 months ago
I kinda saw the cub part coming.
MarcoWolf
5 years, 11 months ago
to bad we dont have some furry programmers to just make a better site....
FrancisJCat
5 years, 11 months ago
There are lots of furry programmers. Very few who would do it for free. There's also a looooot of legal issues to cover. Specially when it comes to financing and dealing with credit card companies.
MarcoWolf
5 years, 11 months ago
work a deal with use bitcoin or other crypto curency, then theres no issues on the payments side of things. plus its unregulated and un traceable.
GreenReaper
5 years, 11 months ago
It's the money side that's the biggest issue. See what F-list had to go through.
Nobody wants to go to the trouble of setting up integration only to be told "sorry, we don't want you."
FrancisJCat
5 years, 11 months ago
Why.
Do you.
Keep.
Supporting them?
VileFiend
5 years, 11 months ago
I think people might put up with it because they feel that no alternative would generate as much revenue. Not really familiar with it so that's just an uneducated guess.
horserov
5 years, 11 months ago
As @VileFiend said, I think there isn't a valuable alternative out there just yet... Ko-fi seems to be the first choice, but then again I got to read their policies very carefully before I land on there. In a first anger moment I thought to quit my Patreon page, but giving it a second thought I believe I'll just rethink it from the ground up: I'm not ready to leave it yet.
Fr0stbit3
5 years, 11 months ago
My biggest complaint about patreon was artists selling limited spots for commissions and it makes it so others can’t get any because the people who have that won’t give them up
horserov
5 years, 11 months ago
I've been receiving a lot of complains about that as well. I'm trying to change the top tier so that it's gonna be open for everyone in the beginning of the month!
Draggy94123
5 years, 11 months ago
Well I’m glad it’s not suspended at least.
horserov
5 years, 11 months ago
It has been restored... but oh man, the stress :S
Draggy94123
5 years, 11 months ago
I bet man. Sorry this crap happened. You deserve better man.
GreenReaper
5 years, 11 months ago
Funny how keeping their members safe from links to adult content (most of which they can get if they pay) just happens to make it easier for them to keep everyone within their walled garden. >_>
Ravi
5 years, 11 months ago
Good to hear your page is back up man! I'm sorry you had to go through such a stressful time and having to re-edit every little thing. Wishing you nothing but the best for the future!
Neos8
5 years, 11 months ago
Damn dude its good that you have it back but sucks shit at how you have to adjust everything on it and i think its unfair. Though yeah i wish there was an alternative to this cause it seems they are top dog until someone better puts them in their place.
BelliMouse
5 years, 11 months ago
Yeesh, that's some crazy amount of crap there..

If I can ever get a slot and scrounge up the money for a piece or two, I'll gladly support you. Patreon for me is no-go. Fuck that! Paypal and Credit Card companies are already bad enough as it is. If only something like GNU Taler or Bitcoin had more widespread adoption. Oh well.
Congrats on getting the profile back at least. And I know this is probably dumb, but you do release your Patreon content after a certain time, right. Not saying it's a bad thing if you don't, that's your decision; but the more the merrier I suppose.
axlegear
5 years, 11 months ago
Patreon has openly turned on furs and porn, just as I predicted.
Furry
5 years, 11 months ago
Hmm I'm not super knowledgeable about Patreon but I believe raffle things aren't allowed, so the Gold thing would need change.
Perhaps some other options to consider? Like voting privileges on a monthly subject poll or the like.
Anyway, best of luck.
horserov
5 years, 11 months ago
Yeah unfortunately I've been already warned by so many other furries about the danger of raffles and luck roulettes... It seems Patreon has a policy against those kind of "gamblings". Which they are not, but oh well, better stick to what they say for now!

Thanx, I'll see what I can come up with :)
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