No more Netorare for me. by RaianOnzika < Journal | Inkbunny, the Furry Art Community

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chacumera

5 years, 11 months ago

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UltimateShadow

5 years, 11 months ago

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Glad to hear that. Good luck

BlackFlash09

5 years, 11 months ago

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A shame that the comic is gone for good... ;_; But I am sorry you had to go through that.

RaianOnzika

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ BlackFlash09

Well thank you for understanding. DZX already has all the sketches to complete this comix. Ask him.

But if you ask me if I draw this I will disagree ^^.

BlackFlash09

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ RaianOnzika

Well, that's good to hear. At least he has the rest of the pages...

Then again, this is the Sonic fan base. They take offense to everything.

deadmeat888

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ BlackFlash09

could be said about just any major fanbase.

BlackFlash09

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ deadmeat888

Indeed. It's quite toxic...

deadmeat888

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ BlackFlash09

which is why i hardly ever bother trying to get into one, cause if you do, you get shat on immidietly by everyone and their mother who NEEDS their fanfictions to be right... like how SU and SVSTFOE fans are going apeshit atm... 3 years ago it was MLP

BlackFlash09

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ deadmeat888

Yeah...

Podo

5 years, 11 months ago

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You had a netorare comic? What was it called?

Podo

5 years, 11 months ago

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Wait, wasn't Zooey's choice Dreamcastzx1's comic?

RaianOnzika

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Podo

I m unfortunately the one who did the script and draw sketches.

DzX coloured it.

Podo

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ RaianOnzika

Aw man, I was waiting forever to see the conclusion.

RaianOnzika

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Podo

Well. DZX already has all the sketches to complete this comix. Ask him.

But if you ask me if I draw this I will disagree ^^.

JohnnyBoy10130

5 years, 11 months ago

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No offence, but this is seriously a fucking stupid way of thinking. Who the hell cares if a character gets cucked, it's literally a fucking character. If you honestly think it's wrong that a character gets cucked, then you need to get off of the internet right now.

JohnnyBoy10130

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ JohnnyBoy10130

Also, that thing about fans loving is the most bullshit sonic thing I ever heard. Nearly two 3rds of the fanbase bashes sonic for every little thing that happens

RaianOnzika

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ JohnnyBoy10130

And that is why I don't want to be a part of this hatred.

Sorry if you dont understand. I still respect your opinion though.

JohnnyBoy10130

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ RaianOnzika

I respect your opinion as well...though I got a feeling that you'll get trolls after you again for this....

JohnnyBoy10130

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ JohnnyBoy10130

Also, does this mean no more time stop stuff?

RaianOnzika

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ JohnnyBoy10130

What ? Ah no. I love Time Stop ! I just need to find ideas and to draw more :).

JohnnyBoy10130

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ RaianOnzika

Well, I can give you a few ideas

anonymousih

5 years, 11 months ago

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For argument's sake, let's suppose you're no better than people who hate the fact that Boom Sonic got his arms recolored. So what? It's not like you / they're going around bashing those who see no problem with that. If you / they force their personal preferences on others, NOW, that's a bad thing to be ashamed of. I'm not saying I like netorare in general or specific cases, but those are YOUR stories. If one doesn't like, one doesn't look. This doesn't mean I'm "berating you for not taking my side", but just now that assholes are still a thing even if yous top netorare, and WILL find a way to torment you with another BS pretext, regardless of who's actually "wrong or right". I just want you and everyone to make stories (aka things that don't target / affect others) they like without being harassed just because someone who doesn't have to see it doesn't like it. Suppose you like chocolate sardine bran muffins. Do i find this disgusting? Probably. Are you forcing it down MY throat? No. Do I have the right to harass you so you stop eating those? Hell no. Anyway, good luck =)

RaianOnzika

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ anonymousih

Too rough arguments I guess...

I understand your opinion. But I still disagree. I said I don't want to take part in a stupid war. I have been insulted way too much because of Netorare stuff that I can't stand it anymore.
like being "Dzk bitch" or just "another hater". It s just too hard for me.

Now I respect people who like being haters but I wont join or look at them. And of course, I ve deleted all my Netorare stuff because I m no hypocrit.

AurumG

5 years, 11 months ago

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If I'm being honest, DzX was the reason for the reaction in the first place. They sort of flooded every art site with pics of Tails getting cucked and brutally humiliated to the point that it became a joke and the sole theme connected with DzX's name. He did it explicitly because Tails was so popular, which came across as venomous towards Tails' fans.

I hope that helped explain the situation a bit.

RaianOnzika

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ AurumG

I m not aiming him in particular. I just want to stay away from this. He is free to love what he wants. I ll just ignore this theme.

DarkHedgie

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ AurumG

Im sorry to say but you wrong on that Dzx specificly told everyone that he has no reason for hating tails he just plainly hates him to no end. Hes said that in is past jornals too. Just thought id put that out there before you back that up

AurumG

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ DarkHedgie

"Back that up?"

Streled

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ AurumG

"	AurumG wrote:
	He did it explicitly because Tails was so popular.

AND...
That's where dczx1 is a failure.
Sonic, Tails and Shadow are the most popular male Sonic characters in porn.
And yet, he think Sonic needs more.

UltimateShadow

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Streled

>Shadow
>Most popular
If only, if only

RyzoTW

5 years, 11 months ago

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That's understandable, my friend, mostly I have seen that issue of war going on with my friends too, but I intended to not get involved

RaianOnzika

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ RyzoTW

I m 31 years old and just fed up of being insulted because I did some Netorare stuff. So I prefer give up working on a theme that I m not fond of at all in the end.

Being not involved is the only solution. You are right !

RawAxis

5 years, 11 months ago

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It's a shame so many people got offended, it's just a fantasy after all, though cuckolding is not a very exciting theme anyways (at least for me) and I'm glad you focused on your other comics instead.

Sonougefan

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ RawAxis

Honestly I don't have a problem with it in general it's just super overplayed. Especially from DreamcastZX1.

kemix1006

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Sonougefan

DZX does the whole “tails gets cucked 100% of the time” thing or always makes tails out to be the bad guy is for one simple thing: to troll the tails fans. He only does it to rile them up to no end. He’s no better than a 4chan troll tbh

Kepora

5 years, 11 months ago

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Bah, fuck them. If they allow vore, inflation, foot fetish, etc., then they gotta allow your stuff. You do what you want, man.

RaianOnzika

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Kepora

As I said... I m, in the end, not really fond of this theme and I m fed up of being insulted. Provocative stuff is not for me.

Jeffron

5 years, 11 months ago

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I understand lots of people are getting angry about cucking of tails. But....it's all just fictional isn't it? no real life people are getting hurt, no hate speech is being involved. I know some people may not like it but the freedom of not having to look at it is kind of a point here.

While I honestly can get both sides when it comes to tails, I don't think there needs to be a "war" over what artists in this case choose to draw. No one is expressing real life hate speech and so long as your art isn't targeting a specific group of people in rl, You should continue to draw what you want without being badgered by people.

It's your choice however. My problem is that people can use this leverage to troll people who draw something that's not even their fetish. Artists should draw what they please, there is no reason to attack someone because your favorite character wasn't depicted the way you wanted to. If that's the logic then anyone who's depicted a fictional character in a sexual manner on this site are ripe for the same shit. However that's a stupid logic.

To you friend I say this: Keep doing what you want cause it doesn't look like your not hurting anyone. Choose to draw for your own reasons, not the reasons of others.

RaianOnzika

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Jeffron

That s what I thought at first... but this stupid war brings trolls and haters. And of course, one day when I decided to draw a netorare pic... boom ! I m insulted.
No links to DZx at all in fact. Its just that when there's too much, and for such futile things, I find it best to give up.

In the end, I wasnt really fond of this theme at all.

Jeffron

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ RaianOnzika

In that case, I'd suggest you just do what you're happy with :3

Daneasaur

5 years, 11 months ago

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It's true, cuckold/netorare content IS based in something that is unkind and cruel. We have enough of that day to day.

Sonougefan

5 years, 11 months ago

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The Problem is and always has been just how freaking much it's done. It's called Oversaturation for a reason. Personally I'm not a big fan of Cuckolding, I don't mind it but I hate turning characters into assholes for no good reason, but like most Fetishes I don't try and Kink Shame.

Again the issue for me at least has always been how it's impossible to go through Tags and not run across a picture like "Tails has a Baby dick and is crying because Sonic is a real man and fucking his Girlfriend or someone other people ship him with that I personally don't."

People keep saying "Well their Fictional" and yes that's true but at the same time the problem is more with the pettiness of certain NTR artists.

RaianOnzika

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Sonougefan

I ve already blocked these keywords and artists.

You know... I saw a lot of pictures from many artists depicting a Sonic official as a real asshole. Saw so many comments where people who love the same thing start mini wars about just THAT.

By ignoring this theme I can stay away of all of this.

Weiss

5 years, 11 months ago

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So here's a quick question for you: Did you enjoy drawing the Netorare/Cucking theme? Did it make you feel proud? Did it make you feel accomplished?

RaianOnzika

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Weiss

I didn't really enjoy drawing this in fact... absoloutely not proud. Not at all, since I already feel accomplished by drawing commissions and some comix.
I ve started it because of commissions and I regretted it.

Weiss

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ RaianOnzika

Then this decision didn't come COMPLETELY from other people hating it now did it? Cause who gives a fuck if other people hate it or troll you for it, you aren't drawing stuff for THEM(unless it's a comission), you draw the stuff that YOU like, that YOU enjoy, fuck everyone else. For every person that doesn't like your work there are three who do so focus on the ones who do like it and screw everyone else. BUT if you're not enjoying the theme yourself, well that's a different story and dropping the theme completely is completely justifiable and understandable too

Zeroshi12

5 years, 11 months ago

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I definitely don't blame you for saying no more to something you hate, but I will say that as a very big fan of the theme, Netorare and Cuckolding are two completely different and separate things put under the same definition and people often don't realize the difference.

Cuckolding is actually a theme about a fantasy revolving around consent. To be cucked is when the boyfriend or husband allows their partner to seek out another person to have sex with. Not necessarily to humiliate them or anything, but to gain pleasure in watching them have sex with someone that is not them. They take enjoyment in seeing them thoroughly pleasured in ways that they cannot provide. It's often thought a cuck has a form of psychological masochism revolving around a fear of infidelity and humiliation. Often times they throw in verbal humiliation or physical humiliation at the cuck's insistence about comparing dick sizes or tying them up and such but in the end it is only that: lip service. At the end of the day, the couple come back and love each other. The cuck will probably even have MORE enjoyable sex with their significant other than if they hadn't seen her with another partner. That is just how it works.

Netorare, however, involves non-consent more often than not. There's actually three kinds of Netorare.

Type A Netorare is when The heroine is willingly cheating on their significant other with another guy and enjoys every second of it. No rape, blackmail, drugs etc. involved, it's consensual sex from the very beginning.

Type B Netorare: Initially, the heroine is raped, blackmailed, drugged or otherwise tricked to have sex with someone other than their significant other. However, she eventually starts enjoying it and the sex becomes fully consensual in the end.

Type C seems to be the one that most upset you: The girlfriend is raped in front of the significant and he can only helplessly watch it. It's non-consensual from start to finish.

Do I expect you to change your mind? Not in the slightest, but what I do hope is that this makes you see that Cucking and Netorare are two different genres put under the same umbrella term and the person that commissioned the Type C from you isn't the only kind out there. Cucking doesn't need to be non-consent. You could've had a whole comic of Sonic fucking Zooey and Tails gets off on it watching from a Camera and it could have fulfilled the requirements of 'netorare' or 'cucking'.

Sorry for the lecture, but again, not trying to change your mind. Just wanted you to see that there's a huge difference in definition.

Darkravenrose

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Zeroshi12

Thank you for the information! I was getting a little confused on the terms and I tried to look it up on Google but it just kind of confused me more.

Streled

5 years, 11 months ago

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We ALL know who started that trend.
It would had passed if it wasn't always the same shit over and over.
-Small dick humiliation
-Everyone's a jerk to Tails for no reason
-Sonic is somehow seen as a sex god and Tails, a punching bag.
-Sonic is clearly raping them, but it's fine, since he's Sonic and has huge dick
-Sonic's dick could easily kill them
-Some pics are traced
-The "artist" only accept Tails pics if it's humiliation and/or netorare
-It's generic porn despite being behind a paywall Patreon
-The art is bad
-He managed to ruin Zooey the Fox

You know what's funny?
The guy did that because Tails "had too many" porn pics with Sally, Rouge, Vanilla and Amy.
So he made Sonic have sex with the ones Tails is usually seem portrayed with.
BUT...
It's stupid. Sonic and Tails are some of the most popular characters in porn.
Why not use Knuckles, instead?

Jeffron

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Streled

Honestly it'd of been healthier to just promote your own preferred sonic character rather then any of this other junk but. *shrugs* u - u

Seems unfortunate how it escalated and here I thought IB was reselient to this junk. Oh well, no place is perfect.

:>

Darkravenrose

5 years, 11 months ago

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Awww, I'm sorry to see it go. But I understand completely. I'm sorry you had to go through something like that. People are so silly on a furry porn site lol. I love ink bunny and I love the people here but at the end of the day it's a fantasy it's not real so nobody should take it seriously. I think the biggest purpose on this site is for people to show off their amazing skills. Be it drawing poetry writing or even photographs. hugs to you honey.

tom641

5 years, 11 months ago

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I understand swearing off of the content going forward but I can never agree with deleting content, even if it's technically in the hands of someone else. Oh well, damage is already done.

WhiteWhiskey

5 years, 11 months ago

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Meh, if you feel you have to. Sorry you had to go through some bullplop because folks couldn't use the Blacklist.

2BIT

5 years, 11 months ago

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I like your message, and though I'm already watching you on FA I've decided to finally add you here thanks to this journal :)

Devil520

5 years, 11 months ago

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I won't lie, I never was a fan of netorare, but I'm not one to criticize fetishes. Regardless, I respect your decision.

Corona688

5 years, 10 months ago

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Thank you.

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