Conservative Furries getting banned. by Silverlonewolf < Journal

MrCoyote

5 years, 11 months ago

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I agree with you, if they have been banned just for expressing their ideology, it's wrong. But we must review contexts because if they have been banned for aggressively expressing their ideology (insulting and degrading) then I consider them well banned.

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ MrCoyote

Here is the thing. I saw nothing degrading. All they did was post art.

MrCoyote

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Silverlonewolf

Then they have been victims of abuse of power or ideological persecution.

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ MrCoyote

So sad. To think we're at an era where this was behind us. -.-

MrCoyote

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Silverlonewolf

As Foucault said: "we must fight against our inner fascist" because forcing others to think like us is a natural characteristic of the human being

ColorlessTalakai

5 years, 11 months ago

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hey silver, this provokes a question. In a one word answer so not to cause a huge drama bomb.
Is ayn rand a bad person
Yes/no.

Anything more than either answer is just going to cause people to go off, i'm sure you understand. it's more than i want to get into and I'll grab you on secondlife or discord later to talk more in person if either of us wants a follow up. I just really value your opinions on topical situations because they usually come well defended or explained. But this time. I just want a yes or no.

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ ColorlessTalakai

No? o.O

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ ColorlessTalakai

Grab me on telegram

Silverlonewolf

TheThirdChild

5 years, 11 months ago

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Emotions don't care about your logic! j/k

TheAtomicDog

5 years, 11 months ago

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"It seems furs out there on the right are getting banned on furry sites for expressing themselves through twitter with the ideology of the Right."
Would YOU invite a grown someone back to your house, who willfully shits in the living room?
"This really infringes the Freedom of speech."
No. It doesn't. Private sites can ban whomever and whatever they want. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. If you go around posting politics that so many people find repugnant, they do not have any obligation to tolerate you or it. You CAN say whatever you want. And everyone else CAN tell you to leave.
Our Host seems oblivious to the kind of seeming-clueless sanctimony and offensiveness in this journal that so characterizes the right:
"Just because one side you're againt wins, don't mean they are automatically the enemy."
The Right treats any opposition as the enemy in an all-out war, whether political, cultural or political. When have they not?
"You're just going to have to deal with it."
The right never have accepted correction with grace, much less defeat. Are you too young to remember the conniptions the right threw after Obama won? And every time the right loses on the Culture Wars front, they declare the End Times have arrived, and start grumbling their desire to have a second Civil War... again. Trump bellows about 'fake news' and 'deep state' whatever-the-hell every time he doesn't get his way or gets shown in an un-flattering light, and attacks any and all critics with a total lack of class, tact or maturity. And every time a Rightie politician gets busted for whatever indecent act, he instantly throws down the 'political conspiracy' card and declares themselves the victim. So, what makes you think that such people deserve quiet and reverential deferment, just because they won an election? They're getting exactly what they deserve.
"Emotions should never get in the way."
But emotion is what the Right runs on. Anger. Fear. Hatred. Elitism. Entitlement. Wounded pride. A craving for revenge. The Right has no corner market on 'passion'. Simply because they cannot withstand rebuking, does not mean everyone else must be silent lest the feelings of the Right be bruised.

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ TheAtomicDog

I have to disagree with you on everything except the freedom of speech. What I meant was Freedom of speech is threaten that the left wants it changed as badly as the second amendment as is threatens their socialist goals. It starts small, trying to push people out with different ideology and becomes big. Like how they want it changed now. I can say what I want on the street and neither left or right can do anything about it. This what terrifies the left and why they want to change it.

The right has opposed in the Obama era, but they haven't terrorized or bring riots to the streets as the left has. I use to be part of the tea party movement. It wasn't about making enemies. It was about opposing what we felt Obama was doing isn't right for the country and the people along with his empty handed promises. Meanwhile, the left and groups like antifa are willing to resort to violence.

We dealt with the Obama era and did not like it. Again, the right did not resort to violence on a mass scale like the left did. The left has. The mass majority of protest on the right has been peaceful ones. The majority of left protests became violent, and sometimes turns into a riot. That is not dealing with it.

As for Trump and fake news, there are tons of evidence that the media are lying through their teeth. Why Trump defends himself against these lies and allegations. So far there is no evidence of Russian collusion. No evidence of him being racist and a misogynist. Comey is butt hurt for being fired because he is a corrupt FBI leader. So he is lying through his teeth. No evidence he did anything terrible to Stormy Daniels and so on. That is a lot of lies to take on. I can relate as my ex and his goons were making lies about me trying to dent my reputation. It is not fun to deal with lies and having to be forced to counter it.

There are plenty of evidence Hillary is corrupt AF. The left is plenty of corrupt such as Former democratic California Sen. Leland Yee. He was against the 2nd amendment, but is sentence to 5 years in prison for accepting bribes and trafficking arms. There is little news on him. Shows how very biased the media is, because it doesn't fit their agenda.

As for emotion you are thinking about the left. I seen the difference. The right pride on facts, reason, research, and double checking. The left runs on "Anger. Fear. Hatred. Elitism. Entitlement. Wounded pride." Why I left the Left. It was corrupted AF. It use to have values, but now those values are gone. Their care and understanding in science, now they are trying to rewrite basic biology into who knows how many genders. They are trying to even rewrite definitions, getting "triggered" by words in the dictionary and wasting energy to protest it and change it. This frightens me. Also, they are trying to change laws. Making it illegal to call someone by their pronouns based on how they look. if I see a woman, and I identify her as one because of looks, but she defines herself as another gender; I could be arrested. That is tyranny!

This shook me, so I did my research. The left has been far more corrupt since this country started with President Andrew Jackson. He was the first democratic president and owned slaves and owned a plantation. President Woodrow Wilson, Democrat. Vocal defender of the Ku Klux Klan. Wilson himself fired 15 out of 17 black supervisors in the federal service and replaced them with white people. 1924 Democratic National Convention, KKK march and paraded and chanted hateful songs and speeches because the Democrats voted down on revoking political power of the Klan. Hillary Clinton was found to be associated with KKK leader David Duke. Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign has received more than $20,000 in donations contributed by members of the Ku Klux Klan. The left has always been associated with racism, not the right.

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Silverlonewolf

These facts I place before is why I left the Left fully. The Left is really based on Racism, Lies, Violence, and Tyranny.

TheAtomicDog

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Silverlonewolf

Ooooh, I can see this will take a while...
"What I meant was Freedom of speech is threaten that the left wants it changed as badly as the second amendment as is threatens their socialist goals."
There is nothing at-all socialist about private companies, private businesses and private properties regulating who/what they allow on their premises. That is as American as you can get: "We Reserve The Right To Refuse Service To Anybody". And indeed, the leftists have been working to do away with that private-ownership, gatekeeping privilege for some time now. Challenging and voicing objection to rightist doctrine is not 'socialist', nor is it censorship. It is resistance. The same kind of resistance that righties and connies have been waging against most-all forms of social progress for generations. Merely because you have the right to voice whatever viewpoints you want, does not mean everyone else must unconditionally accept it.

'I can say what I want on the street and neither left or right can do anything about it.'
That's 242 years of uninterrupted American tradition, baby! And the extremists in both parties HATE it! Which is why I love it.

'The right has opposed in the Obama era, but they haven't terrorized or bring riots to the streets as the left has.'
The right has a history of domestic terrorism and wanton destruction going back centuries. The OKCity bombing; the bombing of abortion clinics; burning black churches; burning whole black towns; lynchings; assaulting gays whenever and wherever; attacks on synagogues and Jewish centers; lest we forget that perineal domestic terror organization the KKK. And since Trump got in the White House, a large uptick in attacks on mosques and Muslim centers; vandalism of private homes and destruction of private property belonging to non-whites/non-Christians; public assaults on muslims (esp. women with their burkas). Absurd bigoted tantrums in public places like restaurants. The right's go-to answer for any resistance has always been promises of violence, destruction and death. Certainly I as an openly gay teen in Reagan's 80 got to enjoy the death threats, vandalisms of my car and my parents' home, attacks at school. All perped by 'traditional conservative' types who view their wanton violence against anyone they don't like as a God-given right and imperative. And finally, if you think the right's opposition to Obama was systemic and loud, you should've seen the shit they threw up during Clinton's double-header.

Trump's definition of 'fake news' is much akin to the definition of the term 'activist judge'. Just as an 'activist judge' is any jurist who issues verdicts that connies disagree with, regardless of legal merit, so Donnie's definition of 'fake news' is any news story from any news source that does not flatter himself. Donnie's complaint is not that the media is being fraudulent, his complaint is that the media is not busting its ass to make Donald Trump look like a million bucks, the way he honestly thinks it should. And yes, the media lies. It always did. The fancy term is 'editorial agenda'. That's what makes the Pulitzer Prizes so special: they reward instances where the media rises out of the muck and actually shines for once. The original free press in America was nothing but political organs. Hideously biased, partisan platforms for whatever cause. But it is incumbent upon the free people of America to be educated enough to smell out the rats and keep the gems.
Got work to do now. Be back later.

TheAtomicDog

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Silverlonewolf

Okay. Now, where was I? Oh, yes.

'So far there is no evidence of Russian collusion. No evidence of him being racist and a misogynist."
Yes, there is. And, yes, there is. Loads of both. Donnie's been cuddly with shadowy Russian characters since the 1990s, and his awful regard of women goes back decades, as does his systemically crooked business practices. Everyone in New England knows this, everyone in business knows this. I've known about how slimey Donnie is since 1988. I still can hardly believe how easily he has duped so many millions of my fellow Americans. Deplorable? Well, we can start with that.

'There are plenty of evidence Hillary is corrupt AF.'
YES! Loads of it! It's not a bad thing that Mrs. William Jefferson Scandal-Magnet is not POTUS. Her behavior since losing the election shows that. And I for one had enough of that family by 1996. Good riddance. BUT...she lost. She's old news. Been and gone. Folks need to leave her be and focus on the here-and-now and the future, not still trying to fetishize her as some kind of world-threatening menace that she never was and now will never be.

'Their care and understanding in science, now they are trying to rewrite basic biology into who knows how many genders."
Mankind has been rewriting basic biology for millennia. All our dogs, horses, cats, cattle, the vast majority of our vegetables and fruits, are all the product of what nowadays would be called genetic engineering, as man defies nature to 'improve' upon life. Gender is not sex, nor vise-versa. There are only three sexes in nature: male, female and hermaphrodite. There are many challengers to traditional gender-roles (what is masculine and feminine), but in a culture that celebrates personal potential, that should be natural. Women can do a lot more than just make sandwiches and raise kids; men can do a lot more just be carbon-copies of their fathers. And finally, why anyone should be threatened by trannies is beyond me. Why are some people so damned worried about what other people have in their undies..?

'The right pride on facts, reason, research, and double checking.'
NO, THEY DON'T! They rely on conspiracy theory, scare tactics and fear mongering, belief and personal emotion and opinion. Hillary's involvement in the manufactured Benghazi 'scandal' is an excellent example: no less that seven Congressional committees, packed with GOPers, found nothing indicating that Benghazi was anything other than shit gone wrong, and that Hillary had no hand in the disaster. But the righties don't care. She's GUILTY dammit, so LOCK HER UP! The righties insisted that gay marriage would destroy the Republic despite totally no evidence that it would, or that it has. The righties still insist on the Cuban embargo even though it spent the last sixty years-plus, not working. The righties insisted on the needless theater of Gitmo, although America had been easily trying and convicting terrorists in civilian courts for the forty years prior. And there are so many other examples. This is not policy based in fact, it is policy based in selfish emotional need. it is policy based on a want to be entertained.

'They are trying to even rewrite definitions..."
Yes. Redefining terms is what evolving societies do. It's what America did with its founding, on many different fronts. And yes, change is produced by people becoming outraged and wanting things to be different. Connies get triggered all the time, and then piss and moan incessantly about how offended they are. That's the main product of the connie safe space that is right-wing talk radio. Both language and society are dynamic and given to flux. Neither is set in stone imperishable. And that's what scares conservatives so much.

'This frightens me.'
Yes. Change frightens you. You are a conservative. Q.E.D.

TheAtomicDog

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Silverlonewolf

Andy Jackson was a wild hare of a man whom none could control, even himself. To parallel Trump to Jackson, as some rightie commentators have done, is not flattery.

Prior to the Jazz Age, the roles of the two major parties were the reverse of what they are now. The GOP was the liberal-progressive party (see: Teddy Roosevelt), while the Democrats were the party of hardcore conservatism (and the Confederacy). Throughout the 1920s the roles reversed, so by the time the Great Depression rolled around, the GOP was the party of conservatives, the rich and the business class, and the dems were for everyone else.

Yes... Ol' Woody Wilson *grimaces*... ugly. And rather more than what you just printed here.

'1924 Democratic National Convention, KKK march and paraded and chanted hateful songs and speeches because the Democrats voted down on revoking political power of the Klan."
Wait... what? The Klan was protesting the Dems' refusal to reduce the Klan's political power within the party..? Um...

At first, I thought your link was to the 2008 primaries, when the Klan endorsed Hillary because while they didn't want to vote for the neocon GOPers, they flat refused to vote for a black man. But then I read the link...
"Washington Times" Ugh.
And then the headline...
"Klan leader CLAIMS KKK have given..." Oh dear, Strike Two

You call that careful, fact-checking research?

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ TheAtomicDog

This is way too long for me to read, so I am just gonna skim though.

Liberals and left-wing thinkers are now urging wide-ranging government regulation of speech. This shift away from what was once a virtually absolutist position favoring the unfettered exchange of information and ideas is already visible in the proliferation of campus speech codes and in the strong support that feminists have given to anti-pornography legislation. But attempts to limit expression in the name of multiculturalism or feminism are neither the most profound nor the most alarming indication of change. Although an organization like the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) for the most part still adheres to the older understanding of the First Amendment, growing numbers of liberals now support government supervision of speech, even when the fashionable categories of gender and race are not at stake.

The great conservative intellectual William F. Buckley of Wesleyan University once said, “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.” Any politically active college student should be familiar with this sentiment. Liberals preach inclusivity and diversity of all kinds, but not the diversity of thought. Opposing views are problematic wrong-thoughts that need to be ignored, or, better yet, purged. Liberals often claim that this is a misrepresentation of their views, and that they only care about banning “hate speech” and other forms of offensive speech. This is not just something that college liberals support; many older liberals have endorsed anti-hate speech laws. But when pressed to come up with examples of what actually constitutes the kinds of speech they want to ban, it becomes clear that liberals are really concerned with banning speech that they disagree with.

Here is Mark Dice showing how brainwashed the left is trying to repeal the first amendment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpHOaW99ST4

Other videos and links;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJVZa9_Ha5c

41% of Americans want to criminalize “hate speech”
https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-repor....

https://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-...

TheAtomicDog

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Silverlonewolf

Attacking the First Amendment is where American liberals have truly lost their way. Like conservatives, they value personal comfort more than anything else, and they are willing to execute many unAmerican devices so as to not become uncomfortable. It is cowardice, it is tyranny, and it is a display that they at-least possess no prepared argument to counter their opponents. They deserve to be defied and exposed upon every turn. First Amendment, Second Amendment. Any Amendment, really. I got banned all over the place during the Obama years for picking out the flaws in this New Multiculturalism school. I consider it a flattery.
The major problem with so much of your post here is that it is far too easy to replace 'liberal' with 'conservative' in the apologetics. Until the conservatives establish a consistent moral standard, instead of just doing what profits them most in the immediately moment, they're going to have weaknesses.

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ TheAtomicDog

Here is why I think the Left is trying to abolish the first amendment.

Destroying People For Failing To Comply With The Leftist Social Agenda.

North Carolina continues to stand strong against private actors who despise that its determination that men should not pee next to little girls. But now government actors are getting involved. They believe that religious citizens must be forced to cater same-sex weddings, that private businesses must allow grown men to urinate next to small female children, and that anybody who believes differently must be curbed. Then their friends in Hollywood produce propaganda suggesting that those who don’t want their liberties violated are the real Kooks

Stopping Citizens from being politically involved.

Prosecuting people fro giving to causes.

George Clooney appeared on Meet The Press to discuss a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton at which he charged $353,000 to be an event co-chair. He blasted the Citizens United decision, which unleashed the power of the First Amendment for those who wish to give money to political causes: “I think [Citizens United is] the worst – one of the worst laws passed since I have been around…and so our job is to try and counter that in some way.” Citizens United, by the way, is not a law. Clooney added that the Bernie Sanders campaign “when they talk about it is absolutely right. It’s ridiculous that we should have this money in politics, I agree completely.”

Overturning Citizens United would involve repealing the First Amendment.

On March 29, 2016 with Al Gore looking on, more than a dozen state attorneys general (almost all Democrats) stated that they would look to prosecute Exxon for the crime of giving money to the Competitive Enterprise Institute, an anti-anthropogenic global warming think tank. Their crime: supposedly committing fraud by supporting a non-approved opinion about global warming..

National Reveiw States : What’s at stake here is nothing less than the rule of law and the maintenance of a free society, one in which people, think tanks, and businesses are not subject to prosecution for political activism on contentious public-policy questions. This is an attack not only on the First Amendment but on the entirety of the political process itself.

The Left doesn't care. They love the idea of prosecuting their political opponents. Again they start small and try to move onto something big. It’s going to be an ugly period for the First Amendment. Then again, the left hates the Second, Fourth, Fifth, Ninth, and Tenth Amendments particularly, so the First Amendment can just get in line.

TheAtomicDog

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Silverlonewolf

That first paragraph: you really have a fetish for grown men peeing next to little girls...
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/sawat.gif
Also, I'll always remember how it was all the old, white, male conservative Carolinians who came rather too prepared about their fantasies of males infiltrating women's restrooms. "That's what I would do!" they said way too many times. Okay...
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/sawat.gif
I mean, have you ever seen the inside of a women's restroom? It's all stalls. Privacy reigns. There's not a lot of exhibitionism going on.

'Overturning Citizens United would involve repealing the First Amendment.'
No. It wouldn't. Citizens United had nothing to do with any kind of personal freedom of speech issue. It dealt exclusively with legally recognizing corporations as living people:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC
The case only 'unleashed the power of the First Amendment' for corporations by putting them on an euqual par with living people, which hitherto had not been recognized as such because, you know, they're not really living things. it was a victory only for those things identified on stock exchange tickers, and not for anyone of flesh and blood. Corporate America has been trying almost since the nation's founding to score this win, and with this current GOP so hideously beholding to the business class, they finally got their way.

*reviews Exxon and CEI*
Um, yeah. Major corp shadow-financing a political mouthpiece front company, to spread their select and self-serving message. Yeah. Stinky.

'The Left doesn't care..."
Unfortunately, nothing in this paragraph cannot be applied to the right; and indeed, history shows us that the right will not hesitate to both prosecute and persecute their opponents if they feel they need to. And so long as that is the case, the right has no moral high ground.

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ TheAtomicDog

Sex is gender. I am talking about the human race. There are only two sexes. Male and Female. You are right, there are those that are true hermaphrodites due to a genetic defect of having an extra sex chromosome. It is a rare condition. People like these, their bodies can't sustain the estrogen and testosterone hormones for very long once they reach puberty. The body trying to pull the body to one side of being either male or female. They require surgery to make them male or female. That's why hermaphrodites are considered a medical handicap.

Gender and sex are one in the same. Male, or female. Anything else is delusional conspiracy. Reason I say this is because, for reproduction, a man and a woman can only make a child together. Gender determines the role you play in reproduction. I maybe gay, but I make sperm. My sperm don't know I am gay and once inside a female's reproductive tract they will try to find her egg cell. Same with a female, lesbian. Despite her being one, her cells do not know and her egg cell will accept the first sperm that gets into it. It's biology. Gender is just a more polite way of saying sex. When it comes to the human race there is no thousands of genders. There are only two. Your sex chromosomes determine this. You got XY chromosomes, a penis, you make sperm. You are a male, man, boy. You got XX Chromosomes, you have a vagina, you make egg cells. You are a Female, Woman, girl.

People who can't cope with the sex they are born with, suffer what is in medical textbooks under the American Psychiatric Association as gender dysphoria. Some go to surgery to change this and take hormones. Does this change their sex? Of course not, they will always have the sex chromosomes they are born with with the rest of their lives. The hormone therapy, really racks the mind, especially if they do it in their adult life. Their thoughts same say they are the opposite sex, but the body has molded into the sex they are born with. Even the brain. Why those that take therapy have high suicide rates.It really not only forced the mind and body to change, but also rips apart what their natural hormones and growth spurts have done. It's not bullying, its not anything from outside influence. Almost most transgenders taking hormone therapy become emotionally unstable. Very few succeed in fighting past it till the brain adapts. I am not saying I am against transgenders. I have plenty of Transgender friends I talk about this with and they agree with me. It isn't an easy process. To cross that line between genders shows how frail the mind is. Why I suggest if they do it, they need therapy and medication to ease their moods until they have a handle on things. Because they may forced their bodies to change a gender, but the DNA never lies. It has no reason to.

The reason I bring this up is to show how frail it is to transform into one sex or another and how sex and gender are one in the same. How important it is that determines part of the make up of a person. There is no cist genter. There are no 72 genders. Doing this is no better than a furry saying they are a wolf. Sure I can pretend, and fursuit and draw myself as a wolf. That determines my species? No, reality I am a human. A human that drinks coffee, goes to work and hates traffic like everyone else. Just because you say you are this, doesn't mean you are. I am terrible at analogies... but DNA is like a a degree. Your father given you the genes that determine your gender. Same way colleges give degrees in science and engineering. You can say you are an engineer, but without a degree you aren't. Same thing. If I was a man and say I was a woman, I can say I am a woman, but I do not have the true credentials as one. XY chromosome, and the ability to bear and offspring within me.

But the left is trying to change this, saying DNA is a lie. Anyone can be anything, and men can use women restrooms, participate in women sports and so on. Personally I find this disgusting.

TheAtomicDog

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@ Silverlonewolf

'Gender and sex are one in the same'.
No, they are not. Sex is male, female and herm, which is to say, intersex. Males inseminate, females bring forth the young. That is sex, hence calling the act sexual intercourse. Gender is that which pertains to the male or the female in society. And the definitions, boundaries and expectations of gender vary depending upon where you are, when you are, and indeed the conditions in which you might live. There is no universal standard.
Heraphrodism does exist. It is a mutation, but it does exist and has been around forever as a third sex, however biologically useless. This is not delusion, it is scientific fact.
There indeed seems to be this interesting clash in some people, between their physical and their spiritual beings. Regardless of animal physiology, some people sense at the core of their conscious being that they are other than that which they appear. And given that others feel that they are out of body or out of place in others ways, this suggests there is more to the broader sweep of existence than the here-and-now.
You know, in other parts of the world, people of all sexes and ages use the same public toilets. Sometimes all at once. And they do so with not even the first fraction of mental trauma that so many Americans seem to have about this issue. Interesting...
The sports thing can be argued as taking the argument too far. And in our society, female leagues of the male-dominated sports don't fare fractionally as well, regardless of the talent level presented.

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ TheAtomicDog

Yes it is through modern science and Medical research. Again, gender and sex is the same and Identifying yourself as the opposite sex changing your gender under the American Psychiatric Association is considered Gender Dysphoria.

You can't argue with science man. You just can't

TheAtomicDog

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Silverlonewolf

I'm always leery of invoking the APA because of the high amount of quackery in that profession.
You fail to cite the other item you're answering in this post, so I can't reply.

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ TheAtomicDog

Just Google Gender Dysphoria.

frogstune

5 years, 10 months ago

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@ Silverlonewolf

Gender and sex are not the same thing. And gender dysphoria is a mental disorder, due to "clinical distress" that would lead you to desire an operation, and that does not apply to gender non-conformity. People with gender dysphoria account for .004%-.015% of people born male and .002%-.003% of people born female, on the other-hand, transgender people account for .5%-.6% of the population. That is a HUGE difference. Stop bringing up gender dysphoria to try and rationalize an irrational hatred. The vast majority of transpeople are perfectly fine with the "sex" they were born as. Simply look at the chart that Roarey tried to deem as teaching children they could "choose" their own sex, as it shows what factors they take into account when they determine their gender identity.

"publisher of the DSM-5, states that "gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder. The critical element of gender dysphoria is the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition"

Phobia: an extreme or >>irrational<< fear of or >>aversion<< to something.

Silverlonewolf

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Oh ho ho ho! Who said I have a phobia about this? No. I have a phobia about spiders. I see one and freak out and scream like a little girl. I do not have any phobia towards transgenders

Being transgender is a mental disorder and gender and sex are the same thing. Let me explain.

What is gender? The behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex.

And what is Sex? Either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male especially on the basis of their reproductive organs and structures.

Both definitions from the Webster Dictionary. Gender is the same as sex because it is associated with your sex, the mind, and the organs between your legs and the genes that determine your sex. It mean a normal mind should be conformed to the sex it is born with.

Having surgery, will not change your real sex because... Your genes tell who you really are. And two, you cannot reproduce. A male going to female can't bear children and a female going to male can't make sperm. What does this say? It says that no matter what you choose, your body is going to do what your body does. Your liver can't become a true heart. Your stomach can't become a true brain. Your spleen can't become a true voice box. Your dick can't be a true vagina or vice versa. No matter how much surgery, it will not work.

So not accepting what reality gives you is a type of psychological problem. The brain can't interpret or accept what input it is given, about the reality around it. So it is being disconnected. As we know the brain being disconnected from reality is a mental disorder. And where it becomes a Dysphoria, is when the person is not happy with the reality given. And with the higher brain function, not conforming to the gender the person is born with is a mental disorder. The brain is going against the natural order of the body they are born with.

When we see this no matter which side they go, they are not happy. Because the mind is fighting the body and the body fights the mind. We see this all the time with people with people altering their body majorly. Even breast enhance surgery messes with women mentally. Plastic surgery and so on can also do the same thing for people wanting to look younger than they really are. People are willing to even go as far with the risk of wrecking their bodies just for a short period of happiness. Does it hide their age? No. Does it hide the fact they really have small boobs. No. Does the guy thinking he is a dragon by tattooing green scales, removing the ear lobes and wear yellow slit eye contacts hide he is really a human? No. Does surgically altering how your sex looks turn hide the fact you are really a male for female by gender? No. It really is all just a facade.

So if a straight man turns down a transgender who is really a man. It is not irrational. The transgender does not have the capacity to bear children. Why? Because really he is a man. Not a woman. If I want kids, I want it to be my kids. Animals do this all the time, to pass on their genes to the next generation. many animals even go as far as killing the offspring of another male such as lions. They want their genes to dominate, its how genes become strong in this world. Now we are humans, and we do not need to do that. We can even adopt, but it defeats the purpose if you want to have your own kids. It's natural people want to be with someone of true opposite sex. So it is not a phobia at all. There is no hatred behind it. Men that want actual women, and women that want actual men are doing what animals do naturally. They want to give offspring. It is simple as that.

This is why being transgender is a mental disorder. Going against the order of nature of mind and body and trying to alternate yourself to be something you are not.

frogstune

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"Oh ho ho ho! Who said I have a phobia about this? No. I have a phobia about spiders. I see one and freak out and scream like a little girl. I do not have any phobia towards transgenders"

Your phobia towards spiders:  an >>extreme<< or irrational >>fear<< of or aversion to something.  (I have the same fear, but maybe on a different level.)

Your phobia towards the transgender subject:  an extreme or >>irrational<< fear of or >>aversion<< to something.  (This is shown by your irrational justifications).

"Being transgender is a mental disorder and gender and sex are the same thing. Let me explain.

What is gender? The behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex."

Your definition clearly states that it is "associated" to a sex, but isn't the same.  It literally says it is a behavioral trait.  It is defined as being "feminine"(associated with the female sex) or "masculine"(associated with the male sex).  If you are trying to claim that being female means that your are automatically feminine, then you are being irrational.  So again, sex and gender are NOT the same.  Ironically, Roarey seems to have deleted his post with the identity unicorn(or I just can't find it for some reason) that had the chart of factors used to determine one's "gender identity"(I think it had 5 factors, with sex AND gender being separate factors).

"Having surgery, will not change your real sex because..."

Again, you are bringing up gender dysphoria.  That is a mental illness.  Of course having an operation doesn't change ones sex, nor does bringing up gender dysphoria even relate to transpeople.

Transpeople identify by their born sex, their attraction, and their femininity/masculinity.  They don't deny their born "sex".  (Found the graph that Roarey was bashing as some transgender "agenda" to teach kids that they can be a different "sex"...  http://www.transstudent.org/gender/ )

The mental disorder should be the irrationality of a phobia.  Again, transgender people don't opt for changing their "sex".  They just don't conform to societies ideal that every female is feminine and every male is masculine.  All through human history, we've had different words to describe such people(though most can seem derogatory).  Transpeople have been around for a very long time.  Just because they are "defining" themselves now, doesn't mean you can just label it a mental disorder.  The term "homosexual" is modern term, but that doesn't mean "homosexuals" are a "new" concept.

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ TheAtomicDog

The Big Switch is a Big Lie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_a7dQXilCo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNfB3090BJ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RBFOTdY1yY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJCVVbDlYhQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJCVVbDlYhQ

That is all I can skim through for now.

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Link #1: The GOP has been attacking both the CRA and the VRA (voting rights act) rather aggressively since the turn of the century, working like hell to undo them. At the same time, the GOP continues to insist upon an aggressive prosecution of the War On Drugs, which a Nixon aide has already confessed was a thinly cloaked race war:
https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman...
And the GOP still has absolutely no problems with the police murdering how many hundreds of unarmed civilians, including many blacks. Indeed, the GOP in Congress doesn't even want to discuss anything racial, because of how it doesn't make them feel good:
https://splinternews.com/gop-congressman-is-very-mad-th...

Link #2: That's a very flowery viewpoint, but very thin on any actual facts or data. And the conservative South not only remains very racist, the great groundswelling of the Neo Confederates, conservatives and GOPers all, show how much the South really wants to go back to the Bad Old Days. These are also the people who keep fantasizing about starting a second Civil War, btw.

Link #3: Oh God. Levin. Let me turn down the volume first. Nope, still trying to declare the progressive GOP of the 19th Century is the same conservative GOP of the 21st. Never getting past the CRA in examples of GOP activism towards black America.

Link #4&5 (redundant): D'Souza? Well, all right then. He has a lot of his history right, but again, what has the GOP done for the blacks lately..? The question I would ask then, is if the GOP was so wonderful for blacks and they didn't want to leave, why was the black condition under GOP rule so awful that they felt compelled to do so?

Silverlonewolf

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You linked CNN, they lie. It is not a credible link.

To summon all your others in one go. The Democrats have been keeping blacks under their thumb for a long time. Theya re making them dependent on the government such as welfare while the job market is terrible. You can see these in such cities like downtown NYC, Detroit, Chicago, and L.A where heavy Democrat leadership follows. Places runned down by the blacks and under democrat leaders are called Urban plantations after all.

As for police brutality, the work of Richard Johnson of University of Toledo explains. Based on 2012 study on black on black crime. It will take 40 years for police to equal the amount of kills on blacks, to blacks on blacks crime.

Less than 400 people are killed by cops. 61% are white. 32% are black males considering they have more interaction with police. People are killed by police as much as they are struck by lightning. 58% of blacks are killed legally in self defense, but 75% of them are killed by other blacks.

FBI list blacks endangered by other blacks. Black people overwhelmingly murder other black people and white people overwhelmingly murder other white people.

https://www.slideshare.net/robertsearfoss33/police-leth...

Silverlonewolf

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(Edit) Because of the low employment rate in these areas, Blacks in these areas really do not have much cash flow to make a positive change. Forced to be paid monthly by government assistance. Not many good jobs in places like these, mostly low end jobs. If you do not want to visit these dangerous places, the movie One Mile, with Eminem gives a glimps how bad it is in Detroit, and it is still going down hill. The high taxes and poor job market is what is killing the economy for these places. This is how the Democrat leaders keep blacks under their thumb for many decades now. Forcing people to become dependent on the government assistance programs. They really can't go anywhere because it costs too much to merely move.

TheAtomicDog

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@ Silverlonewolf

The grim mirror here is that many poor rural places under conservative rule suffer much the same conditions: limited education and low opportunity if any, no way to get oneself out. but the conservative response is : "Tough shit. Life doesn't owe you anything. Get a job."
But, there's no jobs to be had around here...
"Suck to be you, then."
Yeah, *that's* the American Way, boy.

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 10 months ago

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@ TheAtomicDog

Not true, many places under conservative rule have better economy and jobs flowing through cities. An example is that, they try to keep money in people's pockets by lowering tax rates. Thus, it allows people to purchase more locally and in turn create more jobs in the area.

TheAtomicDog

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'You linked CNN, they lie."
And you have linked the Washington Times, the National Review, and some conservative commentators. They lie as well. Everyone lies. And yet, at times, truth can be found amongst lies, if you pay attention.

'The Democrats have been keeping blacks under their thumb for a long time.'
Nor do the Republicans seem interested in ever raising black America up. All the 'Switch is a Lie' vids you linked to stop promptly at the Civil Rights Era in demonstrating how the GOP has worked to help black America. That is not a co-incidence.

'Downtown NYC?' You mean Manhattan? I do not hesitate in stating that the American Welfare State is a failure, because there you have a terrible co-dependent terminal loop between liberals who so desperately want to 'fix' everyone's problems, and poor folks who want someone else to fix all their problems for them. But isn't white rural America filled with the same mentality? Many Trump voters, confessing a lack of competitive education, look to Donnie to put them on a pedestal of preferential success that they really don't deserve. indeed, Trump sold his presidency as him being the only one who could solve everyone's problems. Not exactly a bootstrappy attitude, is it?

No amount of black-on-black crime will excuse police wantonly murdering unarmed and surrendered civilians because of the color of their skin. What is 'False Equivalency', Alex?

Civies killed by cops in 2017: 1,129. Civies killed by cops in 2016: 957. Civies killed by cops in 2015: 991. Civvies killed by cops to date, 2018: 399. But hey, it's only May!
The mere fact that these kinds of numbers bother you not at all, highest deaths-by-LEO rates in all the First World and most of the Second, is chilling.

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 10 months ago

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@ TheAtomicDog

Many news outlets lied and misinformed the public this I can agree with. However, CNN seems to be going for the record on the most lies it and misinformation it can tell to the public. Again I linked a video or two of them lying. There is much more where that came from.

As for the Big Switch is a big lie as you say, you seem to try to discredit what I shown when you got nothing there to show back. I've seen republicans do much more for not just blacks, but people of all Americans of different ethnicity. Since the Republic and Democratic parties separate around the 1830s, the Democrats have been against blacks while Republicans have been trying to fight for equal rights for all. Again, as I stated before, there is plenty of evidence that the democrats have ties to racism through the KKK. Such as Hillary being endorsed by the KKK and hanging around one of the KKK grand wizards named Senator Byrd. There is no massive evidence, that the Republicans have any affiliation with the KKK.

The welfare system, has been a wreck for a very long time. Ever since they are told the only husband you will ever need is the government. That is how it spelled since the 1960s. After the Kennedy's assassination, Democrat President B. Lyndon Johnson once said, "I'll have those ni****s voting Democratic for 200 years." among other things that makes him a bastard towards blacks. They encourage everybody especially the black minorities to use the welfare system. Even to the point of reducing their own level of living conditions to "exploit the system." Over time this introduce a massive increase of blacks to have children out of Wedlock.

As for Trump he has not sold his presidency. What this country needed was a man to think deep on a business level not another politician. As Kurzgesagt explained so brillaintly. Nations use to wage war for resources and political power. Not anymore as it is too expensive to wage war and risk it all. Real war this day and age is with economic trade. For a long time North Korea has been threatening the world with war and nukes. We gave them money. It pacified them, but only a short while. Like a kid who throws a tantrum until he get what he wants. You give it to him until he wants more. When Trump brought in sanctions and worked with China to suffocate NK's economy, it was like putting a child in time out in his own room and slowly taking things away. It shows we're not playing their game anymore Why Korea has budged for the first time in a very long time for peace talks. We do not need another politician that throws money around causing us more debt. We needed someone that hits bad people where it hurts the most.

Same time he has lower taxes, this in return keeps more money in people's pockets. My friend and I had this argument and says that Trump is protecting the 1% very rich. How they keep money and it stagnates. I however disagree. To make money you got to spend money. That law applies everywhere there is economy. If the money doesn't flow, the economy will go into a massive lock. Lowering taxes helps businesses big and small alike, so they can do more with the money to expand and grow and hire more people.

As for competitive education I agree. We were ranking at the bottom. Now that has changed. Actually that has started changing long ago. I got my GED at the middle of 2013. I was hearing from my teachers that starting spring of 2014 the GED system is going to include harder math, including trigonometry and Matrix. Classes are also pushing harder math earlier on students through out the school systems, trying to push America back into the top 10 countries in education.

TheAtomicDog

5 years, 10 months ago

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'However, CNN seems to be going for the record on the most lies it and misinformation it can tell to the public.'
Not only did Fox News win the right to lie as a news outlet in open court, FNC's institutional policies of deceit and misinformation are so blatant that they've spawned an online cottage industry of riding herd on all the lies FNC tells daily. And FNC continues to win the trophy for the most dishonest news network, year after year.

'As for the Big Switch is a big lie as you say'
No, that was your line, not mine. The 1830s happened one hundred-eighty years ago. To try to claim the accomplishments of a distant past as if they should still count and overrrule so many more-recent failures and bad acts is a common conservative tactic (Everyone should love and obey America because World War 2!!!). And even with the more-recent victories of civil rights in the 1960s, that was still fifty years ago. To paraphrase Janet Jackson, what have you done for them lately? This?
https://civilrights.org/trump-rollbacks/
https://psmag.com/economics/jeff-sessions-roll-back-dis...
https://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-law-reform/justice-d...
Only conservatives are impressed.
And as for dems being racist against blacks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB5Z4UeAFkc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DILSmQljvBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQlQHw-GuGI

The Welfare System strings out everyone either too uneducated or too entitled to get ensnared. In my home city, multiple generations of families (not blacks, mind you) have come and gone, addicted to welfare. Too many whites in Small Town America fare no better. It's a terminal loop of co-dependence. And if conservatives were so concerned with children being born out of wedlock, they would not be so against either abortion or contraception. But hey, without bastard kids, who would feed all those for-profit prisons that the GOP loves do damned much?

'What this country needed was a man to think deep on a business level not another politician."
Be very wary in your worship of a Successful Businessman. Success in business requires both tremendous amorality and tremendous selfishness. Don has never worked to enrich anyone but himself. He has no comprehension of public service, and he has made it clear that he views the public as being there to serve HIM. He disregards laws and business deals as it suits him. And we've already seen how, as both a sower and a master of chaos, he will totally switch gears on any topic at the slightest provocation, doing this in a world of slow-moving multiplex clockworks where such violent and sudden moves benefit nobody really, in the long run. While such a personality is a good fit to go up against the Kims, in pretty much every other field, it is a liability.
'My friend and I had this argument and says that Trump is protecting the 1% very rich. How they keep money and it stagnates. I however disagree.'
You can disagree all you want. The actual economic reports showed that hoarding all their tax-cut gains is exactly what the rich did the last time the GOP gave them the keys to the henhouse, investing little if any in growing the domestic economy. Remember that these are people who are out to make themselves rich. They care nothing about anyone or anything else. There are tokens of NOT enacting this policy this time around, but Trickle Down Economics never worked, not matter how much the GOP insist that it did. But then I always play the Tiniest Violin when it comes to the rich and their 'tax burden': fully exploiting our economy and society, living the most expensive and ostentatious lifestyles the market can provide, but it's all ruined because they have to pay taxes!!!! THE POOR DEARS!!!

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 10 months ago

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And I agree that police killing innocent people is unacceptable. However, blacks cause a massive majority of crimes. This includes the majority of violence against the police. Police men and women have to be extra aware around blacks, especially young black males. If tomorrow Asians started to commit higher violence that blacks, the police will shift their guard up more frequently to Asian people. This is a fact.

Still, most of cop killings can be avoided if people aren't so aggressive to cops. Majority of killings either happen if they do not obey orders and resist arrest and become violent. Black, white, Asian, Mexican, an alien from another planet that got citizenship to earth. Don't matter, cops get nervous around aggressive people. They are putting their life on the line out there after all. They want to come home to their families, and no one wants their families come to their grave from a murder.

Also drug use doesn't help. Street drugs and illegal use of prescription drugs can make people become something that they are now. Some of these drugs increase aggression in some people. People high off cocaine, PCP, bath salts and so on have attacked cops.

In all my years I never had trouble with cops. I always comply with orders. AND I AM A TROUBLE MAKER. True story, I went to a place called Hall Street here in St. Louis with some friends. On weekends with good weather is where the illegal street racing happens. I got busted by a cop for racing. Even the cop slammed the door as he comes out and yelled from afar "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING YOU DUMBASS!" Cause well I was racing doing 100+ in a 30 mph zone. That is 5 out of 6 points on my license!

But because I comply with orders and showed no aggression, the cop was cool enough to give me a Violation of vehicle ordinance ticket, and a ticket for expired temp tags. XD I took it to Traffic Law Center to have the charge dropped to a noisy muffler violation.

Complying with the police is important.

TheAtomicDog

5 years, 10 months ago

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"However, blacks cause a massive majority of crimes."
This is the intent of generations of social engineering, dear boy. Studies by the score show how the authorities have carefully molded our society to make sure blacks stay on the bottom. They're not quite so socially incarcerated as the Indians are, but the amount of social advantages afforded them are still quite miniscule. This is designed to lead to a life of crime out of desperation, and it's worked splendidly well.

"Still, most of cop killings can be avoided if people aren't so aggressive to cops."
What exactly is violent about being it total compliance with a policeman's orders? Videos by the score show blacks in total compliance with what the cops are telling them, and they still get shot dead because the cops decide that they've instantly become 'afraid for their lives'. This isn't inner-city warfare, it's traffic stops, wellness checks, investigation of suspicious persons. And with the most miniscule suggestion of pretext, the cops open fire and empty magazines just so they can bag another black. And again and again, it is show on video how whites are treated differently in the exact same scenarios-- which is to say, they are allowed to live. ALL ON LIVE VIDEO!

"Don't matter, cops get nervous around aggressive people."
Cops are SUPPOSED to have training that allows them do deal with aggressive people. It's called 'de-escalating the situation'. And indeed the cops do apply this training...when whites are involved. When blacks are involved however, the policies become 'shoot to kill', 'beat the shit out of them', or 'shoot to kill'. And again, lots and lots of video evidenceto support this.
And everyone wants to get home safe at night. But that should not give the cops license to blast anyone who scares them. Remember the catchphrase for Super Chicken? Yeah. It applies here. And actual heroes know it.

Drug use, like gun and gang violence, is a symptom of a more serious underlying issue. And forget all those new-fangled narcotics. Good old fashioned alcohol is quite enough to get people all stabby. The original Prohibition had such legit underpinnings.

"In all my years I never had trouble with cops."
And your ethnicity..? To recklessly compare your own life to the lives of so many others is an easily avoided trap. And the allegation that merely complying with police commands is enough to ensure your safety is already a proven falsehood.

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 10 months ago

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@ TheAtomicDog

I been showing you links and evidence and you have not shown me at least a credible link. How can I take you seriously?

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 10 months ago

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@ TheAtomicDog

"Be very wary in your worship of a Successful Businessman. Success in business requires both tremendous amorality and tremendous selfishness. Don has never worked to enrich anyone but himself."

Uh, billionaire, expanding his business, creating more jobs. More people work for him, they get paid, he gets cash flow so he can use it to grow his business some more.He is not thinking for himself. He is no better than a good gaming company that makes great games, sells, hires more hard working people so they can satisfy customer demands. Yeah the person in charge of the gaming company gets rich but to stay rich he has to invest in his company. Duh!

Again your evidence shows little credibility. There are going to be racism on both sides when it comes to civilians. However, I proven to you the politicians on the left are WAAAAAAAAAAY more racist, and you are trying to throw videos of regular civilians being racist. You are comparing apples to oranges. Get checked.

Again you say say say. Yet you provide to little credibility to what you are saying. It very much sounds like you are just repeating what you've been told without checking history. Your poor knowledge of history made you blind to repeat what anyone says without doing the research yourself.

Cops try to deescalate situations. You think all cops are killers? Only the squeaky wheel gets the oil on a bad cop, which is rare. However, when cops get killed left and right bu black violence there is little to no coverage. Not like cops ask for trouble. Bad people are out there. Ignorant fools like you ignore them, while good cops that have a families and friends could die tomorrow from those bad people you choose to ignore. "Videos by the score show blacks in total compliance with what the cops are telling them, and they still get shot dead because the cops decide that they've instantly become 'afraid for their lives'. " You're a child saying that shit. No such thing as video by the scores. That is bullshit you are spewing out of your mouth.

""In all my years I never had trouble with cops."
And your ethnicity..? To recklessly compare your own life to the lives of so many others is an easily avoided trap. And the allegation that merely complying with police commands is enough to ensure your safety is already a proven falsehood."

WTF?! Are you fucking high?! Are you pulling the race card on me?! "Oh Blacks get shot for no reason more.... Hur durr." I am not white if that is what you are asking. I am half African, with an Islamic name. So, no, it does not matter what I am. So don't let that race card give you a paper cut as you put it back in your deck I shredded long ago.

Am I pissed? I am pissed. Why? Because your lack of understand that blacks, especially young black males are more violent than any race out there in this modern era. They are into doing crimes, especially black on black crime hurting another another brother. You do not get it through your thick skull, if they are willing to kill their own, how do you think they look at other people. Don't matter if it's a man, woman, child, teacher, cop or fireman. Remember Ferguson? I sure as hell do, as it happen close to me. Blacks firing on firemen and medics trying to get to injured officers. However, you are too ignorant to remember that anyways.

Media blows up with a cop kills a black. People go crazy, and half the world goes to shit. When someone kills a cop, there is only a whimper in the air. Yeah I maybe am a trouble maker, I still respect the police. Not once they pull a gun on me. Not once I resisted arrest if they put handcuffs on me. I admit fault if I know I did something wrong after I am caught and not once I ever talked back to an officer. And like I think 80% of these officers, are whiter than Casper.

However, you like swallowing the bullshit spoon fed to you without checking your resources and it pisses me off you think cops are out to just kill people. Shame on fucking you.

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 11 months ago

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The media is lying and are fake News. I really do not need to go into details how much they lie.
Here is Van Jones saying the Russian Scandal is a "Nothing Burger."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kh3ngzbUeA

Van Jones says just 1 percent of NRA-endorsed candidates won in 2012 which is a lie.

CNN Producer Says Russia Narrative “bullsh*t" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdP8TiKY8dE

Father of Florida school shooting survivor admits altering CNN email

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOOYIa-sOB4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcprZ26qhvQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9esvueQyDE

http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/28/msnbc-cant-stop-lyin...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDL5C11s0q8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t3z4XHZgjg

TheAtomicDog

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ Silverlonewolf

Since you so quickly slapped down the 'fake news' card, please indulge me and define 'real news'.

Silverlonewolf

5 years, 10 months ago

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@ TheAtomicDog

Heh that is easy. Not CNN and MSNBC. XD

SpoonFox

4 years, 6 months ago

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@ Silverlonewolf

Or fox news, or the NY times, or any media outlet easily bought out by those who can manipulate them... The news in general is all about bringing in viewership, including shocking material and -wrong- material.

I'm a journalist and I hate -HATE- the current perspective of all media outlets that are run by big business.

All you bitches are fake.

Silverlonewolf

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Trump isn't Racist. Even Bernie Sanders says Trump isn't racist.

Larry King says Trump isn't Racist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_knRyu2ol8

Reason why they say he is racist is because he is against illegal immigration. He is against people who are not citizens of the U.S coming here illegally, or over staying their Visa. He wants to build a wall and strengthen boarder security. Many nations across the world build walls to protect themselves from the less determined crossing our boarders illegally.

The Left do not understand the difference between immigration/racism

Trump is not Sexist. Calling wimen "Fat Pig" and Nasty Woman doesn't make you sexist. There are plenty of "Fat Pigs" and nasty chicks with terrible personality and attitude.

Every Straight Guy I know has said like "oh... she's sexy... i'd walk up to her and Grab her ass"..... so don't lie to yourself.

It's nature for men to be very sexual to what they are sexually attracted to. I admit, I've wanted to grope or have groped guys I really like a lot.

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Really? All I noticed were actual neo-nazis (and some of the alt-right) getting the boots. I see nothing about actual conservatives getting kicked off. I must have missed something.

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