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Grimm3D

VR stuff

Hello. It's been a while since my last journal so here's a new one :)

I'm just wondering if someone has HTC Vive or similar which can be used to view 360 degree videos? My upcoming (Unless the Sun explodes before that) animation project is supposed to be 360 PoV video and would be good to have someone test it on better tools than my shitty google cardboard :P I haven't rendered it yet but when I do I could send it to someone who can test it and give feedback if there's something fucked up. Besides the animation's contents, of course :) (Animation errors are of obviously fine to point out)

All you have to do is refrain from sharing it anywhere. I will then release the final version when it's done.

Also if someone has done similar things would be nice to hear the best way to do various things. Such as how to deal with the camera positioning etc. Now I've hidden the "player" character's head and render from the area where the eyes are supposed to be. It does look a bit odd.

And in case someone is wondering, the animation will be my "new" rat girl's first time in the hands of the male otter (you) who isn't very gentle. :)

Was considering an actual vr game so you could view the action from every direction but my character rigs use semi-advanced Blender systems which can't be moved into unity. (I might try to export the whole thing as vertex animation. Not sure if that will work though. But that'll be after the video version is done if at all)

Also if you know someone who might be interested in making sounds for the animation let me know.
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Added: 5 years, 11 months ago
 
kilorat
5 years, 11 months ago
I have an HTC Vive, it would give me an excuse to use it again.
Grimm3D
5 years, 11 months ago
Alright good to know. :) I still have a lot of animating to do as it will be one long scene instead of few second loop so it takes time. I just can't put enough time and effort in this to get this done quickly. Do you happen to know which type of 360 video it requires? (Side by side or top/bottom or something else)
kilorat
5 years, 11 months ago
I'm not educated on that stuff, but a quick google search shows it's side by side. Resolution of the screen being 2160x1200.
Grimm3D
5 years, 11 months ago
Alright thanks. :) Damn, rendering this at that resolution will take ages :P
Wulff
5 years, 11 months ago
ooh this will be good!
Grimm3D
5 years, 11 months ago
Heh we'll see :) Still a lot to do though.
Wulff
5 years, 11 months ago
Im sure will be great! big fan of your stuff
Gunn
5 years, 11 months ago
I have an Oculus! :D I don't mind keeping something on the down low.
Edit: mm your mouse characters are my favorite everrr
Grimm3D
5 years, 11 months ago
Do you happen to know which type of 360 video it requires? (Side by side or top/bottom or something else) Nice to hear you like her :) Still a lot to do so don't expect anything soon.
Gunn
5 years, 11 months ago
I think side by side works as well as over/under, similar to the vive!
Grimm3D
5 years, 11 months ago
Okay thanks :)
riox
5 years, 11 months ago
Got mine (vive) undusted for beat saber vr... happy to help
Grimm3D
5 years, 11 months ago
Okay thanks for letting me know. Still a lot to do before I get this rendered though and rendering will take ages. :)
Chelsea
5 years, 11 months ago
I have a vive, already running and what not, let me know if I can be of any help
MystBunny
5 years, 11 months ago
Will there be a normal version of this animation too? I'd have a buy extra hardware and a new phone before I could even use a VR device, as well as switching my ISP to Verizon (ick) to be able to afford it in the first place
Grimm3D
5 years, 11 months ago
Most likely yes but it'll still be from the otter's perspective as I don't animate his face and cheat on some things which works from 1st person perspective but not from 3rd. Or I'll try to make it into a 3d video you can pan around normally. We'll see.
MystBunny
5 years, 11 months ago
yay ^_^ I absolutely love POVs from the victim's perspective too if you're willing to indulge some time.
Grimm3D
5 years, 11 months ago
Unfortunately I can't really do that because the otter who rapes the rat doesn't have his head because the camera is there and even if I bring it back I'd still have to animate his face and that would take significantly more time. Also there are some moments in the animation where it wouldn't really work.
MystBunny
5 years, 11 months ago
Oh I know, I didn't mean for this animation specifically.
Grimm3D
5 years, 11 months ago
Okay :)
Zagroseckt
5 years, 11 months ago
if you have even a cheep andoid you should be fine for a 360 video tons of apps out there.
and it dosnt need service to run just connect via wifi

works on tablets to.

360 video is probly one of the lowest baseline for cpu power needed.
vr wise

Theres even pc apps to watch them use the mouse to move around.
MystBunny
5 years, 11 months ago
hmm, the PC apps might be my best bet. In order to really take advantage of an android, I would need wifi, and since there is none out here, I would have to replace my router, or switch up my ISP plan for wifi. Also Verizon is the only mobile service I can get here, and they're pretty brazen with their monopolistic practices out here, so in order to really utilize the internet in this place, I would have to increase my data, which will practically mean I'd have to have TWO ISPs, or switch fully to Verizon. Can't afford the first, and the second makes me vomit.
Zagroseckt
5 years, 11 months ago
you cold just get a cheep wifi router for 10 or 15 or hitup a few thift stores they tend to have a few.. just dont confuse a dsl modem with antana for one ;p
MystBunny
5 years, 11 months ago
I'm not sure how it would work with Verizon out here still. Don't want to get hit with a huge bill because I have no data plan with Verizon. It may be different closer to cities, but out here, Verizon is a bit more brazen than they would be if they had competition. I also don't want to waste the money and then find out I can't use it. I don't have much to waste.
Zagroseckt
5 years, 11 months ago
hold on... what kind of net do you have?

fyi Running a cell phone on pure wifi off your home router is the same as running a pc off your home router wifi or not.
you dont need to change the modem you just plug a wifi capible router into it.
does not effect your home net bill at all.

and there would be no cell service so no cell data as far as the home net is conserned it's just another pc..


(is verr confuseld at how you thinking this works....)
MystBunny
5 years, 11 months ago
I have Exede, satellite internet. the connection has the habit of going out every now and then, and if it switches over to Verizon service while I'm doing something, that would be a problem. I don't know if it would be a huge issue, but I literally can't afford to make any mistakes in that regard, so I just stick to having internet on my PC.
Zagroseckt
5 years, 11 months ago
you keep saying verison.. is that a backup system or something?

becos if the phone dosnt have service (EG not actevated) theeen.... well there would be no bill. O.o
if the satelite whent down you'd just get a no net conection same as your pc


if your using a cellphone you Have service on..

then just turn celluar data off :)
it's in the settings.
:)
flip it off give it a test (try to open a new webpage)

you know were forgetting something to :)
you could just download the video and put it on a sd card :p
MystBunny
5 years, 11 months ago
So I can access the internet on it without activating it. That I didn't know. Thanks.
keokitsune
5 years, 11 months ago
i have a rift
SetsuneW
5 years, 11 months ago
Looks like you have a bunch of volunteers, but if you need one more, I have a Vive.
Aksel
5 years, 11 months ago
I've got a Vive and a Rift, so I can test on both.
Zagroseckt
5 years, 11 months ago
95% of android cellphones can easly do the 360 videos
and alltho i do have a headset for my phone you dont actuily need one to use it you can just hold the phone at the right spot infront of your eyes in a dark room. .. preferibly on a spinny chair :)
Nech
5 years, 11 months ago
so an option is doing a video wrapper in unity or some other cross compiler with vr compatibility instead of rendering at the native resolution?
either in lieu of rendering to a video or as an intermediary to render at a lower resolution and have the respective SDKs upscale for the HMD that the user has (vive, oculus, gear vr; all use a unity compatible SDK with premade plugins available)
Grimm3D
5 years, 11 months ago
The "game" idea is to make a simple basic vr scene where you can walk around and in the middle of the area would be the 3d characters doing their thing so it could be viewed from anywhere. There will be some issues with that approach though and I have to try to get the animation in there as vertex animation and that may prove to be impossible due to the length of the animation. (Massive files) Normally I would obviously use normal rigged 3d characters but my characters weren't rigged with game engines in mind and many things won't work properly. Most importantly rat's face control rig.

Positive thing would be that I don't have to render anything and the user can render the scene in realtime like any other game at whatever resolution they want. But I'm not sure this will be feasible. I have way too much animating left to do. This project just keeps on growing and at some point the quality will start to drop.
Nech
5 years, 11 months ago
mmmm.... you could ignore the rigging i believe if you treat it not as a model or char with an IK chain and instead as an animated static object placed in the world space? collision wouldn't work to well as far as the environment but the characters could be animated to have non-calculated collision stored in the animation keyframes themselves?

probably export your key frame as a .bvh or other format to animate your own sets of rig points so you dont have to re-rigg or worry about the engine trying to interpolate a model skeleton instead of just playing the static animation for a specific model
PeachClover
5 years, 11 months ago
I've got a Vive.  Still asking for beta testers?
Gauge
5 years, 11 months ago
Have a Vive, could test stuff out for ya :)
Lust3D
5 years, 11 months ago
Really nice, I never watch much about those videos. I think it can work to be surrounded by sharks,  a walk for a street of Zootopia, applied to sex I guess it can be used for an orgy ( I know someone already made yiff 360 degree, it was a train orgy, and I watched in a simple mobile VR glasses;  if you are interested ask me and I will search it) , but for a scene with two characters with the 180 or even less is enough...  
Grimm3D
5 years, 11 months ago
There might be additional characters included in addition to the 2 main ones but we'll see. They would just hang around looking at what's going on. Yeah 180 might be enough but I think the feeling of "being there" might be better if you can see everything around you even if it's just a simple room or something. We'll see. If you have a link to that 360 video I'd like to have a look at it to see how it has been put together.
Lust3D
5 years, 11 months ago
Of course, here you have : https://inkbunny.net/s/1397805

Good luck with this!
Grimm3D
5 years, 11 months ago
Thanks. And thanks :)
Lust3D
5 years, 11 months ago
Np, a pleasure.
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