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AnibarutheCat

My Patreon has been Nuked XD

So it finally happened *sigh* at least I was able to recieve my money for this month  XP

This fucker again and he actually did it XD

For those who doesn't know Patreon has been a bitch with me lately, they don't allow me to publish or send any links for my content through there anymore. So what I did? I contacted each of my patreons personally by mail and share my content through there... but it seems they didn't like that either XD

So what's happen now? if I must close my Patreon for good then I suppose I could manage the payments myself from now on I guess... (oh fuck that gonna be tedious as shit and lots of work hahaha)

Otherwise I must only publish safe shit from now on.... but fuck that I say!

Well this patreon thing is begining to be harder and harder and I'm too old and lazy to try new methods. I preffer doing things my way :)

Many of you are supporting me through Patreon so lemme know your thoughts on this matter guys, and sorry for my lack of content here lately. If I can't fix the Patreon thing soon I will make commission left to right to sustain myself this month :,3

I gonna grab a bottle of vodka and waste myself today thanks.
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Added: 5 years, 11 months ago
 
pony1945
5 years, 11 months ago
When will you start commisions
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
a week from now I hope, at least want finish Incest delicious for those who pledge for april and I need a few days for that
Luminia
5 years, 11 months ago
Are you planning to create a Discord in order to keep in touch with the contributer ?
(Good luck for what's comming next !)
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
there's many ways to share content, the problem is managge the money, I need an automatized service for that. I suppose I can sell some kind of "suscription" through here or any other site, you know like a patreon but without patreon XD I can send invoices myself too... but what a bummer XD donc'ha think?
TiberiusPonificus
5 years, 11 months ago
One artist I support on Patreon has yet to experience any trouble, despite making NSFW content. What he did was, for his second tier reward, give out a link for his Discord server to chat with his patrons and share any WIPs on a channel that allows only himself to upload stuff. He also has a private gallery that's invitation only, but you already have that with Dropbox. If or when you can get your Patreon back up, you might wanna consider that.
emothebunny
5 years, 11 months ago
patreon also checkes the discords linked to the patreon from what i heard
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
true^ mark my word kiddos, I'm just the first, warn your other patreons who make similar content than mine
SnowBlitz23
5 years, 11 months ago
Have you considered using Maker Support over Patreon?
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
what is Maker Support? never heard about it
SnowBlitz23
5 years, 11 months ago
It's a platform similar to Patreon with less restrictions about what content you're allowed to post.
" AnibarutheCat wrote:
what is Maker Support? never heard about it
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
uh! I definitely gonna check that out. when I'm (less drunk)
BlackLynx
5 years, 11 months ago
I'm sorry, but have you read their guidlines? I was genuinely interested, but it took like 2 minutes to get to this point:

"A limited subset of adult content is permitted, while the vast majority of adult content is not permitted. The following content is not permitted in any case:

    Pornography:
        Photos, videos, or audio including real people or depicted characters engaging in sexual acts
    Sexual services:
        Prostitution
        Escort services
        Adult webcam shows
    Content including themes of bestiality, incest, rape, or exploitation of children"

And since furry and bestiality seems to be a blurry line for some people (and let's not forget the whole incest, rape and minors thing for AnibarutheCat in particular), I don't see this site as an alternative.
SnowBlitz23
5 years, 11 months ago
Chill out. I wasn't aware they were even stricter than Patreon.
Naxus
5 years, 11 months ago
Considering Patreon has been cracking down on porn lately. especially anything dealing with Loli or character that look young. Ive seen a fair share of patreon get shutdown now, but some stay up by hiding their content and posting to another location. Example: was a loli 3d artist called MantisX had his patron taken down unless he changed thing, which he did and now keeps his stuff on another site he/she says not to link. U might have to change things.
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
I already changed my stuffs, but they say: "no you can't share content in that way either " XD check the mail they sent me
slightlyshade
5 years, 11 months ago
Stay strong. I have a bottle of vodka too. That's not actually relevant, but still. Stay strong. ;D
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
Iwill! lemme tell you kid: the only way they gonna stop me from making loli/foalcon porn is killing me, and thrust me they tried before XD
slightlyshade
5 years, 11 months ago
I wonder if it would've been attainable to simply be more stealthy there. I'm not really experienced with Patreon, though, so I don't know exactly how wonky they get - I fully expect it can get a little arbitrary. I'm sorry you have to deal with it.

Anyway, I fully expect you to not give up, haha. Also, it's been decennia since someone called me a kid, so that was interesting. :D But yes, THEY CANNOT STOP YOU.
xephion
5 years, 11 months ago
well is simply really you cannot use patreon to share that kind of art like you posted on their site where you gonna send them links you cant do that, what you have to do is make email those supporters but you cant post that kind of info on patreon like what they want is for you to get supported BUT you cannot link patreon to any of that specific type of material so dont put patreon logos on them, call them UNsupported art or whatever but always say not supported and do not post how you gonna distributed that kind of stuff on patreon at all use discord or other ways to inform them but it cant be using patreon systems (you can email them by yourself but you cannot anounce it on patreon first of all and second you cannot say that is a reward of patreon you have to say that you did that unsupported with no correlation to patreon at all)

this is a legal system you can keep getting support from patreon but what you do outside of patreon or if you want to give free stuff to the people you like that you met on patreon is not breaking their community guidelines, simply put any art pieces that breaks their community guidelines will have to become an unssuported art pieces as simply as that with no correlation or even mentioning of patreon at all
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
I did that, still they found out. Still they blocked me.
xephion
5 years, 11 months ago
well from what i read on the letter it says that in the latest post you mention that you were gonna send those emails of that material so that still against their policy you have to say that work is unssuported by patreon and you cant tell anyone on patreon where you gonna post them you will have to talk about them as not supported work that has nothing to do with patreon at all
Yury
5 years, 11 months ago
I hope the best for you and I am here to support you :/
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
Thanks man ^^ support of everyone is what keep us artist alive :)
passionphoenix
5 years, 11 months ago
Awww.

Well maybe i'll commission you again! IF you are feeling up to doing radical shiet? :D
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
nah, radical shiet no man. I preffer draw safe than bogus stuff ^^
DancingChar
5 years, 11 months ago
I don't use Patreon so I'm no expert but I think the the best workaround is to remove all artwork and mention of what content you produce from your patreon and instead only describe what you do in extremely vague terms (I am creating artwork. Please support me). You can maybe have one sfw pic to show off your art style. All specifics you can just mention on IB or somewhere.
To be safe, you probably shouldn't include a link to your IB either. I don't think anyone first finds you through patreon anyway so it shouldn't effect you much.

If you have exclusive content rewards, you can link to a private patron-only server or something but again, don't mention what kind of exclusive content.
You might need to make a new account though since your old one already has a lot of dirt on it (you want to stay under their radar). Maybe just tell your patrons to cancel their pledges and move to the new one.

Again, I don't have personal experience with this but I think this works for artists from what I've seen.
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
Well they find out my private dropbox where all my foalcon comics and pics are stored even when the comunication was strictly by mail ^^U and they let me clear than as long I make such content I can't use Patreon in anyway, not as a fee recolection. In other words: if I want to use Patreon I can't make porn so... fuck that XD
Beluinus
5 years, 11 months ago
Yeah. Fuck Patreon. They really are starting to crack down on cub stuff, and it's ridiculous. They're losing a lot of revenue from it.
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
yeah fuck that, I can find other ways, besides it wasn't that much tbh, it's almost the same when I open commissions so... yeha fuck them XD
Beluinus
5 years, 11 months ago
Yeah! That's the spirit! Fuck em with a rusty pipe!
guy88
5 years, 11 months ago
I'm sorry about that, but still I will support you by commission whenever you are avaiable
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
thanks buddy I was planning open commissions soon anyway, but first just one more page of incest dely and I will satrt with comishs ^^
IzumiAsura
5 years, 11 months ago
Wow, they actually asked you to send them the stuff you were sending your patrons xD? what was your response to that? i'd be like hell no!
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
worse they want me to stop doing porn and send them safe shit XD
IzumiAsura
5 years, 11 months ago
Pixiv are doing a supporter thing now, but it's all in japanese so it's really hard to understand
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
yeah my friend also recomended that but I don't know shit about japanesse hehe XD
Amlure
5 years, 11 months ago
Just use google translate.  With some wording you have in English it can’t be THAT far off the mark to not make sense
Thaecrasis
5 years, 11 months ago
Wow, Patreon is cracking down hard. Well however you decide to proceed, my money will find a way to you :D
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
Sure man thanks in advance I will find another way no worries ^^
Plinko
5 years, 11 months ago
Pretty jacked up that they are fucking you for "privately sharing content"...

I'll be down to supporting you, I'll keep an eye out for when you open up again.
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
I'll find a way no worries. This is something is gonna happen.
Amlure
5 years, 11 months ago
You know you can always just put the nsfw stuff out as Patreon goals are met and just make SFW art as the patron exclusives.  Sure at best you can only have the 3 and 6 dollar tiers worth doing that but it’s better than nothing and still get the comics paid
Amlure
5 years, 11 months ago
And I mean the comics would be free online to anyone the sfw stuff can be Patreons only
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
nobody pays for sfw stuff :,(
Stryderfox
5 years, 11 months ago
I'll support you. Perhaps I'll abandon mine.
ElDomino
5 years, 11 months ago
Tanto tiempo amigo, ahora por lo que leo esa era la razón, bueno espero que todo se te resuelva.
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
Lo resolveré no te procupes, ahora mismo solo quiero terminar la ultima pagina de incest y empezar a hacer comisiones el resto de mayo
ElDomino
5 years, 11 months ago
Que bien! :D
cmcfilly
5 years, 11 months ago
Yeah... I was gonna reply on patreon and tell you that my account had funds when i got your message about payment being declined.
AnbunArts
5 years, 11 months ago
Just keep Patreon for SFW stuff and tell people to get your lewds from here or elsewhere owo
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
The thing is i don't think gonna be enough now, they aren't fools they will keep watching me and probably just shut me off if it finds anything porn related, at this point the more viable solution is to find another platform.
SirHoli
5 years, 11 months ago
It's all about liability.

While it sucks that they suspended your account for not complying, I don't think there is any point in calling them fuckers since they are only following their policies. It sucks that current social climate is against loli art and many places have silly art censorship laws but that's the cards which have been dealt. Patreon does not do this because they hate loli art but because they have to comply with the laws and want to keep their business safe.

They don't have access to your loli dropbox. Fred specifically asked for a link since he does not have it. They do see and check what you are posting and sending via their built-in messaging system. Since you mentioned you'll be sending links via e-mail that's how he knows about it, but he doesn't have the link.

You can still use Patreon to collect money for normal porn, that is not against their rules. Only loli, incest, bestiality, torture, etc. is banned.

They also have no problem if you are still making loli, incest, bestiality, etc. pictures, but
- You can't mention that on Patreon anywhere, not even vaguely (lawyers aren't stupid)
- You can't mention your Patreon on your loli content posted elsewhere (no logos, no links, no hints)
- You can't have loli content on sites or dropbox you are linking from Patreon (neither in posts or in messages)
- You can't make any hints on your Patreon that you are doing loli stuff somewhere else

Basically, if some SJWs want to sue them for supporting child exploitation, they want to be able to say "Anibaru does loli content? We had no idea! He never mentioned that or posted anything like that to our servers. He has only been posting clean porn. We aren't liable for that, we don't support that content of his. So dear SJWs, you can't sue us, we did nothing wrong."
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
XD they fucked me up I think the term fuckers is more than adequate hehe.

Yeah but think about it, they know what I'm doing and prove their point by blocking me. No matter what I do in the future is more than evident they just take any reason to shut me out. even if nobody say anything or implies anything. I simply need another platform.
SirHoli
5 years, 11 months ago
One artist has been reported by SJWs to Patreon about being involved in actual child porn (not drawings, IRL) since he offered loli commissions. Patreon set the artist's page to the same "under review" state as your page is. After a week or so of investigation Patreon concluded that there was no evidence to the allegations, it was just SJW bullshit. So they lifted the "ban" and he's still making money on there.

So it's not that they want to get rid of you or any other artists. You are making them money after all. But if they can dodge a lawsuit by limiting content to vanilla porn drawings then they will do that.

I hope you can find another site you can use, since using Patreon to distribute content like yours would be very complicated (for example: not posting any loli to Patreon, enabling Discord integration and then posting dropbox links to Discord channels)
SiriusFace
5 years, 11 months ago
This is such bullshit, and I'm sorry you have to deal with this. I've often thought about just kicking patreon, and if this is how they're going to treat artists going forward, it may be for the best to just abandon them. Please keep us informed about what we can do you support you, be it commission work or something else. Get your discord server up too!
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
oh my friend don't feel bad for me, when I start to walk this path years ago I knew it will be a difficult and lonely path, ^^ I'll find a way.
Stryderfox
5 years, 11 months ago
Welp. I guess I should not do the patreon then. Even though i'm still having trouble to finish it. Fuck that. I hate Crackdown.
SenGrisane
5 years, 11 months ago
I have seen this pattern repeat so many times.

New option for adult artists opens up to make money/showcase art/manage a community/transfer money.
Adult artists jump the opportunity.
Owner of said new option suddenly "We didn't know adult art meant its gonna be porn we don't like."
And forbids stuff outside the vanilla bubble, if it allows porn at all.
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
Yep but making loli/cub/foalcon porn is hard to monetize at least in this side of the continent.
Blazinroc88
5 years, 11 months ago
Wow...that friggen sucks
ShadowLupine
5 years, 11 months ago
Sorry to hear about losing this income, and yeah, sadly most people are not very interested to support tame artwork, no matter how well done it is :c

Regardless, I'll always be happy to toss money at you for a commission! Do feel better!
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
Sure man, you and many others are waiting for me to open commissions. Just gimme a few days more to finish the final page of incest deli ^^
ShadowLupine
5 years, 11 months ago
Always more than willing to toss money at you for awesome art and support n.n

I'll keep a look out. Hopefully I'll be able to snag one when you open :D
genuineparts
5 years, 11 months ago
Memberful seems to be okay with NSFW stuff https://memberful.com
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
So many options besides Patreon I need to read careful each one of them. adn find the model best suits me, but thanks for the info I'll give a proper look.
Nowayout
5 years, 11 months ago
that sucks. I know some Creators, that do NSFW Stuff openly and they don't get banned. The World is unfair
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
yeah... but to be honest I break the rules from the start XD in some way I knew this will happen eventually, that's why I'm not completely destroyed, rest easy I'll find a way ^^
Weiss
5 years, 11 months ago
Ko-Fi.com that is all
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
but that's more like a tip jar, that model don't think it suits me. But once again I must read careful what offers and consider it along the other options. Thanks for the suggestion.
GamerKM
5 years, 11 months ago
That sucks that they want to deside what artists make outside of their platform,(Technically they dont have a right to do)
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
They don't have the right but they did it anyway :(
kaion
5 years, 11 months ago
Welcome to the club!!! xD Fred hates us
Thaecrasis
5 years, 11 months ago
Well, if you don't find a suitable new platform for pledges, then I'll be sure to commission you. What are your standard commission prices?
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
All the info abou commissions is available here but I'm not taking any yet, I need another week before I start
AkumaKamigamiRyu
5 years, 11 months ago
Hmmm, I don't know, but, what's about https://www.hiccears.com/ ?

There's this subscriptions thing: https://www.hiccears.com/features.php#subscriptions

Though I'm not subscripted to anyone I follow, yet. Ther's also a commissions system. Just take a look if this is for you.

BTW, I'm one of you your Patreon supporters but have a different name there. This name here is might more familiar with an email address you wrote directly. =3
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 11 months ago
There's a lot of options, right now I will lay down and make commissions for the rest of the month before I start another platform. Maybe I just make another Patreon with a different name XD but I need to do some preparations for that first.

Yeah I recognize you one of my $10 tier patreons ^^ Ihad plans to conect in a more personal way to all my supporters but that will have to wait a bit XD
Nightingale15
5 years, 11 months ago
Good to hear that you are not giving up, i hope to see you soon back with your fantastic comics.
branded1
5 years, 11 months ago
Well that sucks. Oh well, I always have you fav'd on here, pixiv, etc. If you find an alternative, I'll throw money at you through that. In the meantime, enjoy that Vodka and rest that brain for a little while!
DrNubs
5 years, 11 months ago
You could try to find another website similar to Patreon, but allows for adult content.

I believe BrainTree, such is a subsidiary of Patreon, allows for adult content publishers, maybe look into that.

Another to consider is Drip (site is d.rip), which is a kickstarter site for ongoing content creators. Not sure their stance on adult content, but they don't expressly say its not allowed. Issue with this is it is invite only, which i guess means you have to invite users to be able to donate to your cause.
DangerDragon
5 years, 11 months ago
damn that sucks
SecondPrances
5 years, 10 months ago
Rather than a monthly subscription service that's bound to fail anyhow, have you considered just selling your comics and art packs individually? For example, let's say you sell Yes Teacher! as $20 for the basic edition, and $30 for the expanded edition. I imagine more people might buy it as a finished project and it's easier than committing to a monthly fee for some people. Also this is what a lot of artists, such as Harmarist and others, do on Inkbunny. It's more fair for everyone involved, I think

I know your thoughts on the matter, especially after you told me to go to hell and blocked me on Patreon, but I think that by doing this you're also giving out a guaranteed product for the money your customers are paying, and you don't have to worry about conflicting your patreons with your commissioners. Just a thought.
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 10 months ago
That's the plan actually, when I finish to correct the grammar XD and all my pending commissions
SecondPrances
5 years, 10 months ago
I wholeheartedly support this!
Whippy
5 years, 10 months ago
Damn...Patreon's really playing hardcore Thought Police now. Sorry to hear this happened :/  Well, considering that Patreon is really just a glorified payment processor, have you considered just setting up your own thing to take payments? It's pretty easy to create a payment button thingy with paypal, then you just paste the code it gives your into the html of your site. You could make a free site with neocities. Then you'd just need to copy the email addresses from paypal (it should say what they paid for). In Mozilla Thunderbird you can hit enter to paste in another email address to send to, so you could do multiple emails that way.

Just an idea for you :) I hate having stubborn businesses telling me what to do! Hope it all works out for you!
BronyPony34
5 years, 9 months ago
Will all your comics be available soon at e621, or is there another way to see your amazing
comics.
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 9 months ago
I will put for sale soon (they will be cheap) in an attempt to fund the rest of the comics. I will make a public announcement when they are available :)
BronyPony34
5 years, 9 months ago
Great, I'm sorry about your patreon, I wish there was another way to pay my support for your outstanding artworks.
askcompu
5 years, 9 months ago
where do we go to buy the comics now?
Luminia
5 years, 9 months ago
Hey, just wondering, how is it for you ? Did you find an other option or an other site ?
AnibarutheCat
5 years, 9 months ago
well all June and most of July I were working on commissions for sustain myself, I gonna put on sale my "exclusive Patreon comics" next week, and open a Ko-fi shortly after that, all that in order to fund the rest of the comics- That's my plan for the inmediate future ^^
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