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Whippy

any introverts in the house?

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I've noticed this thing that's very consistent lately. No matter what, I get totally worn out if I'm talking to or around people for too long. Doesn't matter how enjoyable the company is, I get completely brain dead after about 5 or 6 hours tops. It's almost like that feeling right before going to bed, except there's a tenseness about it. I experienced this once right after a hanging up a call, then looked up to see 3 people trying to get ahold of me and another trying to call me x__x  I HAD to kill skype in that moment. HAD TO. Like, a very basic part of me that wanted to survive made me do it lol.

Once all forms of communication with the outside world were gone, I turned off the lights, put on some quiet music and after some time I noticed that tense feeling melting away, my head cleared, and I could think more clearly. A friend of mine describes being alone as a horrible, boring experience. He gets bored easily, falls asleep fairly easily, and can listen to about 5 different things at one time. I'm the exact opposite lol. I find things to do all the time no matter what, whether it's thinking on a problem, an art idea, or just observing things. At my computer...XD...I'm all over the place. I usually have to take pills to sleep or have some regular noise going on in the background. If someone's talking to me I can't sleep at all no matter what. As for the listening, it's one thing at a time pleez.

I'm starting to think my problem with streaming isn't really people per se, but the stimulation that comes from it. No, I don't mean anything yiffy, git yer mind outta that gutter! :P I mean, a chat box with people chatting, music playing, and focusing on my art. I think I usually burn out around 4-5 hours, but if I stay focused more on my art, I can go on a lot longer.

One thing I'm really really starting to dislike is people wanting to talk to me for the sole reason of "you should talk to me more". That's not their words but my interpretation of their want. XD  I've heard that extroverts thrive a lot on the anticipation of positive interaction with people. If you don't talk to people "enough", that's something negative right off the bat lol. So it's kind of a self-sustaining cycle.  I isolate to recharge my brain, not to diss people. Although, the dissing part is kind of an unwanted side effect. ^///^

Hmm...so uh, yeah, positive interaction. It's a myth, but I believe it exists ^.^
I'd love to be right smack in the middle of the introvert / extrovert spectrum honestly. I'll aim for that :P Don't wanna diss my homies yo.
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Added: 6 years, 7 months ago
 
HeavyheartHare
6 years, 7 months ago
ME. I get social anxiety, and if around a single person (unless I get really comfortable with them) or a mob. I know, I know... you didn't have to mention me, personally, for me to know I am one such person wanting to chat with you more. It's just that you are a friend, and I do worry about you, and you're one of the few people I am comfortable talking to.

But I also take a few steps back, because I want you to want to talk with me, and not feel pressured into it *sighs*.

But otherwise, yeah. I am almost a hermit.
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
I've had social anxiety too at times. Lately though, I just go from feeling really hungry for communication, to being over stimulated, then just wanting to be alone for a while ^////^. I'm glad that you feel okay talking to me though. It means a lot as some people I know never want to talk at all, only type...which is kinda cold feeling sometimes.

Heh, *snugs* Almost a hermit huh? I nearly am as well, except for using skype and chatting on the web.
HeavyheartHare
6 years, 7 months ago
Sorry for delay. I enjoy listening to you :3 I get tired of typing. And since pretty much my only interaction is online, hearing someone's voice (as cute as your voice is *blushes*) is wonderful.
KeeperSeen
6 years, 7 months ago
My suggestion to you, keep of balance of Alone and Social. I do that where I can go missing for a week to just Veg and sooth out.

That would be my suggestion cause I can have the same issues at times :/
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
A whole week? Wow. Lately I've been doing that for about a day or two at most.  When I first moved back here though, it must've been something like a month that I had to be by myself before I felt normal again.
alvidore
6 years, 7 months ago
u bee trippin
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
my bad
MichaelJBear
6 years, 7 months ago
Yeah... me to I have the same issues... I chat with one person at the time...can't talk to more... my brain get overlaod... But when my mind hit the bottom of the barrel or have the winter blues or feel down I do not talk for a week or more... depens of my mood or my need of peace and quiet around me to relax... I dont wanna talk... like this I dont hurt anybody feelings... because in these periods I might say or do things I dont want to do to other... Yeah... happen sometimes. But after 2 week or so I regain all my nuggin like we say...

Sometime the best way to recuperate is to be a li'l selfish... I mean to have time for ourselves... for some music or look a good film...

I dunno if this is beeing introvert or the contrary or just beeing blah... But yeah... it happens to me... The best thing is to get a balance...
8Horns
6 years, 7 months ago
Introvert here  , it's normal . :)
EricAdler
6 years, 7 months ago
It's pretty normal for an introvert to find dealing with other people to be a draining experience, and to need some 'alone time' to recharge.  Nothing wrong with that.
Teko
6 years, 7 months ago
Absolutely. I love my friends, and I love being social with them, and even enjoy getting together with big groups -- that's all fine. But if it's a situation of constant interaction where I have to be "on" nonstop... I get exhausted after a few hours and have to be alone for awhile. And if I'm with extroverts who want to PARTY! and PLAY SPORTS! and YELL! then I just withdraw into myself and get really quiet and awkward before too long.
samsondrave
6 years, 7 months ago
I do know that I have Asberger's syndrome, but I don't know if having that or any form of autism means automatic introversion.  I do know that I seem to function at my best when I'm alone, and that trying to communicate with people can be a very daunting task for my brain.  Usually, I can blend into a crowd pretty easily, and the whole "not having everyone pay attention to me" thing does make it a little easier, but really I much prefer observing and pondering people than actually communicating with them.  The only downside to this realization is that it makes me feel like an alien in a human form, unwilling to adapt to a society that thrives on interaction and communication.
arineu
6 years, 7 months ago
you're a nice person
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
Thanks ^_^ You seem nice too.
Gobby
6 years, 7 months ago
Ambivert here. I can do crowds but am comfortable in my own skin. A happy medium is prefered where it's a small group of friends, but I have no problems being alone.
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
Very cool ^.^ Sounds nice.
Unistar
6 years, 7 months ago
This journal is confusing me :/

I will admit, you are very strange....  i will say, it looks like you're annoyed of the situations you put yourself in...

Sometimes the answer to ones problem is themselves, if there is any problem here at all..

Anyway, you're a good person with lots of energy and needs, i do wish to have more contact with you, but when you say things like, you're annoyed by people asking you to talk with them, then i kinda feel bad, becuase i'm not allowed to say ''i miss you, wanna talk with you soon'' when it's been 2 months or more with no contact... and you're suppose to me my bro :/ it's not easy knowing where to start with you because you write things like these if four different people ask at once ''where are you'' or ''hey, i miss you''

*shrugs* maybe i'm wrong ..  Dx or i'm writting outta my ass... -.-
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
I knew somebody would misunderstand what I wrote here.
I'm trying to say that no matter what, I WILL GET TIRED OUT by being around people for a few hours. Anybody would get annoyed after being totally worn out. It doesn't matter if it's irl, chatting, or talking. It doesn't matter how interesting the other person is, or how nice. It has nothing to do with them. It's just how I'm wired atm.

It's okay to write "i miss you" etc. I know it really has been a long time since I talked to you. Being out of energy is different from being annoyed btw.  I just haven't caught you online much, or I'd already be engaged in another conversation and I never talk to other people like that because all my attention is gobbled up.
Unistar
6 years, 7 months ago
Don't misunderstand me then smartbutt, i wasn't meaning to attack you! x.x

*Sigh* idk how you are about keeping yourself healthy and take fresh air, but it does a lot to the personallity if you get the right balance between online and real life, you use your mind to much, which isn't the whole you, there's also your body and your higher self...

Your higher self recievers information, allow it and train it to become you, your mind is creating the experience of how the information shall be used, the body is the most ovbious, train it to be able to use all of it in harmony as it is the only real physical that is you in the moment.

:/ i hope it says something to you... try not to think to much otherwise this isn't worth telling you... it will help you to not get drained around people if you do what your body is asking for, and don't think about what your higer self is or it will make you think even more.... your mind is suppose to be the balance point for you to be on this planet.


(Btw, i don't see you online, ever, i've stayed up till five in the morning on msn when i can and see nothing from you, or else i would take contact right away, i've left messages on both of my your contacts that appear offline but no answer)
MrSOCKS
6 years, 7 months ago
Ooh, my poor naive little Loopy Looq...
Tiring of your live, RL company after five or six HOURS by no means makes one introverted. That's actually somewhat normal.
Allow me to set a higher bar of introversion, for you: only being tolerable of live human company so long as another motive is met. I get invited to dinner parties at times, and I go for the free (and usually quite good) food. I'll arrive when invited (not a moment sooner), make social small talk for the hour or so before dinner is set, and then once the food's all gone I'll make a bit more chit-chat for maybe ten to thirty minutes, then excuse myself and promptly leave, under the (real) pretext of needing to feed my dogs.
Now, THAT is introversion.
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
That's normal ? Hmm.....

You can make small talk for an hour? Wow...now that's a super power! ^^ I don't think I can stand small talk for more than 10 minutes ^/////^  Maybe it's just that 'mode' of conversation that tires you out?
MrSOCKS
6 years, 7 months ago
I'm just not a people person. I never really was.
But even my father, who himself is no wallflower, gets tired of company after five/six hours.
But think about it: do you *see* me in any livestream? At any con? In or at any other kind of fandom interaction besides commenting on pics and journals, with the infrequent friendly private note ever and anon?
SenGrisane
6 years, 7 months ago
I am sort of an introvert too. Hate big crowds. But it has gotten better over the years.
I like being alone too ^^

And for some reason when one person contacts you suddenly several want to talk to you. Like a secret bat signal. I do not like to talk with more than one person over a bigger time span.

Also my livestreams are usually 1-2 hours long. Best was 4 hours I think. It is simply tiring focusing on so many things (Drawing, the technical part of streaming (e.g. livestream crashing), reading what people write and all that.
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
Thank you. Yes, it is exhausting to focus on those things after a while! I'm glad I'm not the only one. As for the 'bat signal' , yes that does happen lol!  I do enjoy being alone at times, it's so much easier to be yourself that way ^^  I do wish I had a way to not feel totally steamrolled being around people for extended periods of time though. I guess it's something your body kind of adapts to after a while.
SenGrisane
6 years, 7 months ago
Like everything in life it can be trained and learned, but it will always be a little uncomfortable if you are not the type.

Recently my streaming attempts were even more stressing than normal as livestream keeps killing my graphics card when I stream. x.x
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
Killing your graphics card how? 0_0
SenGrisane
6 years, 7 months ago
I dunno. The picture freezes but everything else works. Just can't do anything when all I see is the same picture over and over.

Tried again today. Got totally weird errors. Windows not properly displaying and such.
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
Have you tried updating your video drivers? Maybe check to see if the video card is all the way in the slot, or that it's fans are spinning at a good speed?
SenGrisane
6 years, 7 months ago
It was working fine before I updated the livestream program. The troubles started directly after the update.
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
Oh damn..hmm
*looks at the procaster interface*
If you go into preferences, then the desktop tab, at the very bottom there's a dropdown menu that's called "effect render method", it's usually set to Directx 10. Try setting it to openGL or simple. It could also be a problem with manycam. Try upgrading or downgrading it as well.  

If that doesn't work try:
downgrading procaster. You can get an old version at: http://www.oldapps.com/

upgrading your video card's driver. Freezing is definately something jacking with your driver, directx, or your video card.


SenGrisane
6 years, 7 months ago
Thanks for the tipps. I set the thing to simple for now and see how it works.

Upgrading my Graphics driver is a bit hard. I run on Windows XP-64. There was never much support for this version. But I plan on byung a new PC this year anyway. I can live a few months without if it doesn't work.
DaddyDuckyBE
6 years, 7 months ago
I remember another time when you thanked me for keeping the streaming chat alive, buckling...

And I hope it's still alright to say I'm missing you.
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
It's a good thing, gives people something to do while watching.
I'm just trying to say that no matter what happens, no matter how cool the people are, I'm gonna get worn out after a couple hours.

It's alright so say so *snugs*
phydoux
6 years, 7 months ago
if i'm thrown into a situation where there are alot of people that i don't know (usually IRL) i get physically ill. this stems from my days in school when i was always having to watch my back. *shrugs* i keep trying though i've only really achieved one face-to-face friend, the other two i've never even met. i have noticed that the seperation helps me open up a bit and i don't vomit all over the floor.
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
I was like that a lot in school too. Got sick my first day of 3rd grade from having to stare at 300 something complete strangers in the cafeteria. I puked outside and an adult noticed me and helped me to my class finally.  Where I'm at now I have 0 physical friends. It's been that way since I moved here (a long time). Funny thing is it's made me look at things differently than what I used to when I first got here. I don't feel leery of people anymore, but really hungry for some good interaction. It always amazes me how people treat things (outside) when everything is deemed 'normal'. They stop noticing lots of things, get bored, and treat everybody the same until proven different.

I guess that's how the seperation helps me open up. ^^
Rabbot
6 years, 7 months ago
Wow.. I am the same way. Interacting with people, no matter how cool they are, drains me. I've always been this way :c
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
*hugs*
Yay!! Another fellow introvert! Exactly, I wish people would see that it's never their fault, it's just the way we work. It's helped me put things into perspective a lot more just realizing it's the way I am and not a sickness.
phydoux
6 years, 7 months ago
see my issue is when i'm ignored or feel invisible i DO think it's my fault. part of depression i think.
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
I get the same way too. It's hard to find a positive reason when there isn't one right there in front of you. That's actually one thing I hate about the internet, the silence is a cold one. One the phone or in person, you can at least have some real feedback on why the person goes silent. I usually completely remove someone from my contact list if they go silent too long without giving a reason or take 10+ minutes to respond to what I say to them. There's way better people out there willing to talk and actually care about it.
phydoux
6 years, 7 months ago
i have found 3, decent people to talk to Tarrin, MadDog, and Donni. it's unfortunate that i can go more than a month between hearing from anyone though. I can't even remember a birthday i had ever spent with anyone (not through lack of informing others) *shrug* but that's what "normal" people do in society these days. the mentality seems to be if an event doesn't affect you directly, it doesn't have meaning to anyone else either. but i agree, decent company either face to face or online is rare.
but don't give up on it, i have and things just get a whole lot worse.
Christaphorac
6 years, 7 months ago
* is wearing a HAI I'M AN INTROVERT button* Hi, introverty introvert who's all introverty and stuff.
 *snugsnugsnugsnugsnug* ^ ^
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
*snuggle snuggle snug snug snug*
mousehwolf
6 years, 7 months ago
Hmm...I don't know about drained...there are moments when a friend and I will run out of things to talk about, but if the person is engaging enough and I click when them enough, I can talk to them for hours on end...and it's good times :)

Hmm as for messaging you, you once said that you enjoy talking to me, so I just try to show that I'm available  *shrugs*  I guess I should stop?

I know you're a busy bunny, with lots of peeps who want to talk to you and stuff.  :)
mousehwolf
6 years, 7 months ago
Hmm...I hope that didn't come off as sarcastic or something...if it did, I didn't mean it that way...I just actually don't know what you want me to do...  :/
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
I do enjoy talking to you, really. I don't mean that you should stop. I just have a limit on my energy most of the time. That's kind of unconditional. I made this journal to just get some thoughts off my chest really and to explain things a bit more clearly to others. But it seems like it's caused more confusion than not.

I'm not saying that I don't like people, don't like talking, or hate conversation. It's just that it doesn't take much to over-do it for me in terms of stimulation. Usually (at least right now), stimulation for me consists of talking to people. It's different than being on your own because of the way it directs your attention. I'm so used to following my own ways that it gets difficult at times to give it up and let another person steer what I'm thinking on or paying attention to.

It really depends...like you said, on how much you click with a person sometimes. I'd still love to talk to you. You have a pleasant voice and are very easy going.  This journal was mostly me blowing off steam. I didn't mean to seem like I was accusing anyone specifically of bothering me all the time.
mousehwolf
6 years, 7 months ago
Thanks for letting me know, I really appreciate it.  :)
cronos2345
6 years, 7 months ago
Personally, I prefer to be alone most of the time. But my friends won't let me.
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
Hehe, maybe you should go for some long walks. Those do wonders ^^
Lekko
6 years, 7 months ago
Same, way here.  Mostly why I am rarely seen and get out to chat about things.  

I'm curious though if you are like me, is it only when talking to people?  I hate being on the phone for long periods of time when people call me, but I can text chat almost all day without any issues.  Same way with journals, I could keep up conversations for long periods on here.  Also, oddly enough, it works one-way too.  The only time I really got to talk to you was the one drawing session where you were talking and I was typing.  Those seem to not be as stressful either (in either position for myself).  Not sure why though.
Whippy
6 years, 7 months ago
I don't really have a problem when I'm the one talking to the person. I think it has something to do with an equal exchange balance kind thing.  If someone continuous talks right over top of me, pushes their opinion on me, and makes it their sole mission in life to use every single breath to fire words at me - then yes I will get worn out and probably irritated too. Sometimes my mind just spaces out if the person rambles on and on in a nonsense kind of way. I can't help that.

This might sound weird, but I kind of see conversation as a "joint thought" type of thing. Not like a Vulcan mind meld lol, but like... you add something, they add something, you think on it and return a response...and on and on. In other words, the speaker is giving out stuff for you to mull over, laugh at, offer advice on, etc. Besides volume, pitch, tone, and the actual content , there's that implicit "okay they'll pause here" or "okay, their point is....".  Talking to some types of people wears me down extremely quick, because I have trouble making sense of their intentions.

With just text though, for me it gets frustrating, both giving and receiving it. It's kind of cold really, and I have to make up my mind about how the other person actually feels, or what happened when they stop typing for 10 minutes. With audio, it's a better indicator of what's actually happening, I don't have to "guess" so much about the other person usually.

Maybe you're more comfortable with text, because you can control the rate of conversation better, and have more time to arrange your thoughts. Those are some positives about it.  Maybe you'd feel better if the other person gave you enough time and silence to get out what you want to say without you having to worry about getting it out before they talk?  I've been around a few very loud and talkative people that completely steamroll me when I say something -_- The funny thing is, without these people around, I can be just as silly and talkative at times. But I don't steamroll over people like that.
Lekko
6 years, 7 months ago
I don't think you're alone with overbearing conversations when people try to talk over you.  That's stressful for anyone.  Just ask any customer service representative :P

I have my own theories for why I like to talk via text, I think it just works better with the way my mind works.  Hopefully I have a chance to chat with you again sometime, whenever you feel like.
averageschmoe
6 years, 7 months ago
I once read a bit in existential psychology regarding 'locus of control', although I'm not sure if that applies to you specifically. Me, I can't stand the company of most people for more than 6 minutes, let alone hours. That is, physical company. In a chatbox there's always the option to just hit the exit button, swivel my chair round, and find something else to do. When I was younger I was extroverted, usually the 'life of the party'. As time went on I gravitated more inward, realizing that acting like a complete jackass (er, no offense to any 'donkey' furs on here) to garner attention was absolutely ridiculous. Also, you're right about conversation etiquette, sometimes people bogart every word-in edgewise (sort of like I'm probably doing at this very moment).
ButtercupSaiyan
6 years, 7 months ago
You're not the only artist burned out on Skype, but why not just give it a break? It's not unusual for artist types to be introverted. If you are yourself, you'll still find people around you who respect you for who you are.

I find streams to be enormously draining, I often can't get by without some sort of painkiller or sleep aid to chill. I am really partial to Skype voicechat one on one and using Screen Share to draw, but it's hard to find an audience who I can tolerate and who can tolerate me... or who has the time to give to that.

You'll have a lot of overzealous fans who feel entitled to you, hangers-on.

That's my two cents.
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