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Wolfblade

Don't fucking come to me on LupineAssassin's behalf

I'm beyond sick of this. Every so often LupineAssassin sees somebody mention talking to me, so he contacts them, and before too long asks them to talk me into unblocking him. He's tried to blackmail a couple people into doing this, threatening to expose something personal to them if they don't get me to unblock him. I'm sure he talks to plenty of people just to talk to them, but the majority of the people who have come to me to advocate for him are people he'd only JUST contacted after they'd posted a pic I drew, or mentioned being friends with me in a journal or something. Someone I >just< started talking to hardly a week ago mentioned me in a shout, so Allan im'ed him and in the first conversation tried to get him to convince me to unblock Allan. It is FAR from the first time. I am tired of people being harassed by him just because they've talked to me.

The following is the copy-paste email I use to respond to these people he sends at me, explaining the backstory.

I am not out to publicly slander him, but since he refuses to back the fuck off, maybe this will help people avoid him approaching them just because he saw they had some association with me.

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I've grown tired of typing this stuff up every time he ignores my response to the previous friend he sent to say this and sends another one, so this is a copy-paste response. That's how often he has sent one of his friends to do what you are doing. Nothing personal, and I hope you don't think less of me for this, but my experience with Allan has been long and annoying and frustrating for no good reason. I cannot >AFFORD< to keep spending the massive amounts of time his bullshit has eaten up, which includes explanation responses to the friends he keeps sending to ask me to forgive him, even when every time he does it, I let them know to tell him, as I have told him numerous times, to stop trying to contact me.

He doesn't understand because he is incapable of understanding. He's mentally disabled. He doesn't need to tell me his side of the drama surrounding him, I am more informed and aware of the circumstances around that whole drama than most people out there. I have talked to him, his friends, people on his side and against him who were first-hand involved in all his bullshit. I refuse to listen to him anymore BECAUSE he does not understand anything I have ever tried to say to him.

When the drama around him first started, I did not know him, had never talked to him. Dragoneer made that big journal saying all the things Allan had done and why he was made an exception to several ACTUALLY SMART principles, and banned despite FA having always had a policy of not getting involved over off-site matters. I made a big comment to the journal blasting Dragoneer for breaking that policy because there were dozens of other people who did all the same things he listed Allan as being guilty of, and plenty of people who constantly do even worse, and never get banned.

Some of Allan's friends saw my comment, and mistook me for defending Allan. I got >several< notes from seemingly decent people saying the accusations against Allan were false. I blasted Dragoneer because what he did was retarded and wrong even if all the accusations had been true. When that many people told me they were lies, I looked into it further. ALL the shit Dragoneer listed turned out to be either utter bullshit flat out lies, or extreme rumor-exaggeration and misrepresentation of actual events. The one valid accusation was that he had been spending money on commissions while he was also taking donations from people.

I tried to explain to Dragoneer how he was wrong, how he shouldn't have banned Allan, and how all the shit he'd been told was troll-hate rumor garbage. I also tried to explain to Allan how what HE did was wrong in asking for donations while spending money on commissions.

Allan's defense was that all the donations he got, he kept in one bank account, and only ever used that bank account to pay legitimate bills and expenses. All his commissions were paid for from the severance pay he was receiving from his last job, which was all going into a separate bank account. To Allan, this meant that he did nothing wrong. To his mentally defective way of thinking, he was only spending his own money on commissions, and only spent donations for actual bills and food. He could not comprehend that the separate bank accounts did not make a difference, that he was only able to use "his" money on commissions BECAUSE of the donations people were giving him. I spent WEEKS going OVER and OVER and OVER that one single damn argument with him, and he >STILL< does not get it. He eventually understood that somehow, everyone thinks he did wrong, and so he started trying to pay people back just to get people to stop hating him, but he NEVER grasped the concept of >WHY< it was wrong.

All during this, I had also tried to help him deal with Dragoneer. I told him to NOT talk to Dragoneer directly over live chat, because that only gave Neer ammo to use against him. Every time Allan talked to Neer in live chat, he made an ass of himself, was hostile and threatening, and gave Neer more stuff he could copy-paste to people and go "See how bad this guy is? He did deserve that ban" despite all the shit Allan was doing was only a >response< to the damn ban. Doing something wrong to a person can NOT be justified by anything they do >as a direct result of what you did to them first< no matter how bad their retaliation is.

After I think MONTHS of this shit, with Allan ignoring EVERY SINGLE THING I told him to try and help him, and with the bullshit between him and Neer escalating constantly from both of them doing retarded-ass crap at each other, I told Allan I was done. I told him I wasn't involved anymore. He ignored me. He kept asking me to help. I told him no, because he had not ever done a single thing I suggested, so I wasn't going to waste my time anymore. Allan kept harassing me about it and I told him to stop emailing me. He wouldn't. I eventually had to block him. He started noting me, emailing me from alternate accounts. Every time, I would tell him again to stop contacting me, stop harassing me, I was not interested in communicating with him.

He is incapable of understanding anything other than whatever he wants to do at any given moment. He is ruled by his impulses and desires, and if he wants something, he does whatever he can to get it, and completely and utterly >cannot even see< the wants and desires of other people. He is blind to anyone else's wishes if they conflict with his own wishes. I have told him >DOZENS< of times that we are not friends, that I tried to help him and he ignored every word, that I do not want anything more to do with him, and STILL he contacts me every now and then as if none of it was ever said, like "hey, I miss you, you should call me, here's my cell phone number, let me have yours so I can call you and we can talk."

I tried telling him politely, I tried telling him firmly, over and over again, until finally I was in his face and caps lock and yelling at him with no room for ambiguity or misunderstanding that I wanted him to stop trying to fucking talk to me. It got to the point where I told him I would contact the police and file harassment charges if he did not leave me the fuck alone.

And STILL he doesn't get it. He doesn't stop. Multiple times now, he's come into my stream saying "Hi everybody" as if nothing ever happened and I had already told him not to come to my streams and banned him from them several times before.

Allan does not understand because Allan is mentally disabled. He has an extreme handicap in reasoning and perception. He is retarded in a clinical sense, not just the insult use of the word. Dragoneer started all this bullshit, but Allan has since taken his retaliatory garbage WAY beyond anything that can be considered understandable or forgivable reaction to being wronged. It still does not justify Dragoneer's initial unprovoked, unwarranted, and seriously fucking wrong almost completely false accusatory journal against Allan, but Allan is not remotely just a victim anymore either. He is utterly blind to the effect his actions have on others, and is incapable of caring when those effects are directly pointed out to him. All he does, and all he ever will do, will be motivated by whatever he thinks he has to do to get whatever it is he wants at the time, and that is that. He needs to be put in a mental ward where MAYBE he can get the serious professional help he needs, or at LEAST he can be kept away from being able to cause so much headache for everyone else.

If you are his friend, the best thing you could do for him is help him come to understand that sometimes he cannot have what he wants. He cannot ignore the wishes of other people. I tried to help him, he ignored me, and now that I have told him countless times that I do not wish to have anything to do with him, he continues to ignore that. Even at the threat of me getting the police involved for his harassment of me, which I >DON'T< want to fuck with, but every time he does this, it pushes me that much closer to not having any other option.



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Added: 6 years, 8 months ago
 
GoldenJackal
6 years, 8 months ago
nice -  -
YamatoIouko
6 years, 8 months ago
Ugh, he's STILL doing this to you? x.x
Rally
6 years, 8 months ago
You know, it occurs to me that this is officially harassment at this point, and he could be reported for such. I'm sorry you're having to deal with this, though, especially now. *hugs*
Wolfblade
6 years, 8 months ago
It's been well beyond harassment for a long time, and I think I already had the admins tell him not to approach people on IB for this, but he does it through IMs now, so I doubt IB can do anything more.
Rally
6 years, 8 months ago
Can't you report his IM name to AIM/MSN/YIM/whatever? Get him blocked completely from the service or something? Hell, worst comes to worst, find out a way to get his IP/ISP...
Danzer
6 years, 8 months ago
you can see if you can obtain his ip thru what ever emails he did send you or one of the guys he randomly talks to, once you got that and put that in the hands of the authorities they should be able to work on your claim and put him away or get a restrainign order or something on you...cause i would flip my shit if this kept happening

*hugs and defends you from bad idiots*
Zeikcied
6 years, 8 months ago
Damn.

He hasn't pestered me about anything yet.  But I'll be sure to keep this all in mind.
DemonisLiyon
6 years, 8 months ago
I'll keep an eye out. And if he starts to bother me or anyone else, I'll use my liony powers and smash him!

*hugs the wolfblade*...just relax! I got this! ^^
DarkFaolan
6 years, 8 months ago
Lol...I'm curious to see those liony powers now... XD
SojiroEX
6 years, 8 months ago
I'm sorry, but "liony powers" made it impossible for me to take this seriously, and I proceeded to giggle x3
GrifterWolf
6 years, 8 months ago
Yeesh good luck on that hun, I've had similar experiences though... from separate individuals and not all rolled into one :\
Nir
Nir
6 years, 8 months ago
The little times I talk to Allan, he usually doesn't mention you,most of the time he was specifically talking about cons and how he was bullied there, people recognize him and attack him, certain users other than yourself being in drama with/them harassing him, etc. etc. But if I talk to him again, whenever that'd be, I'll make sure to keep that in mind. But you're an intelligent guy, I figured you could have made him understand No means no, what don't you understand, the "Nuh" or the "Ohh"? >.>
Nick2Shy
6 years, 8 months ago
hm, sowwie you're still having this trouble. he's never mentioned you to me, was always nice to talk with and even helped me out once but I knew about this issue already.
again, he never mentioned you to me but even then I would not contact you for him because I don't do such things usually
also it's nice to read some more details to understand all this a bit more
again, sorry you have to deal with this still -_-
Bloodewulf
6 years, 8 months ago
Im sorry this is happening. Hope he learns what he did. I don't know if i could help in any way.
FelineLeukemia
6 years, 8 months ago
Unfortunately, people with such a mental disability really can't help it. I feel bad for you that he doesn't understand, but I also feel bad for him for not understanding. With that said, it may be necessary to involve police for harrassment charges if he doesn't stop. Doing so could lead to him getting the professional help he needs.
PsyChuan
6 years, 8 months ago
Guy's a dick.
Charliemon
6 years, 8 months ago
Christ bitch needs to let you go in peace like
bluedude
6 years, 8 months ago
Sad to see some people have a problem letting things just die and manage to make it an obsession.
bj
bj
6 years, 8 months ago
Wow, I can't believe you still have hair after all this shit xD I'd have pulled all mine out!

Jesus Christ, that's insane. I'm sorry *pats your back sympathetically*
AbelNezumi
6 years, 8 months ago
I'm unaware of the LupineAssassin "issue" on FA and the circumstances surrounding. Is this something I want to know?
Beachfox
6 years, 8 months ago
Nope! Ignorance is bliss! Just keeping going as you're going!
wolfoxx
6 years, 8 months ago
*paddles with you on the lonely boat we sail*
Danzer
6 years, 8 months ago
all im gonna say is..avoid and be ignorant, if you must know you can probably google the whole thing
Shokuji
6 years, 8 months ago
Just read the journal you commented on? o.o; It has lots of details in it.
Shokuji
6 years, 8 months ago
I've had a minor understanding of the situation but this puts a finer point on it. Hopefully this will reduce the volume of unwanted interactions. Now the word is out, let it go and relax. Let your wrists heal. [hugs]
CirrusKitfox
6 years, 8 months ago
Yeah.... this is an all-too-familiar story...
Readasaur
6 years, 8 months ago
O_O
Wait, so THIS was all the drama with Lupine? I wondered what had been going on with that story.
I'm sorry you're suffering just for trying to be a mediator. :<

...Are your arms feeling better at all?
Blazger
6 years, 8 months ago
ugh....I'll handle this.
Beachfox
6 years, 8 months ago
Yeeeeeeee.... I'm sorry you got sucked into that particular vortex of personality.  So so so sorry.
JakeSilverwing
6 years, 8 months ago
Yikes! o_o sorry to hear about all the drama.. I can empathize all to well when it comes to harrasment/borderline stalking >_>
Anyways! you could file for a restraining order? =x
Nullbun
6 years, 8 months ago
Yuck, drama. :c

I don't know any details on the situation other than what I've read here, but I'm sorry to hear this is happening to you. '^' Hope things settle down for ya.
ralesk
6 years, 8 months ago
Ugh :/  I'm taken back a decade into memory-world, and have to think of a certain red dragon that was also a jerk and got into trouble everywhere he went...
DinHusky
6 years, 8 months ago
I'm sorry, Wolfblade. My mate is friends with him, so I can understand what he can be like. However, I was unaware that all this was going on *sighs* I do, honestly, feel sorry for you. He's done stuff to me that I was super against. I partially understand your point.
Shokuji
6 years, 8 months ago
[hugs]
Soraku
6 years, 8 months ago
You, sir, are a better man than I. I'd have called the police ages ago.
SilverJackal
6 years, 8 months ago
Allan just doesn't know when to simply call it quits...  Hell the only reason he is buddying up with Dragoneer now is that he hopes by brown nosing the digi dork and stroking his ego, it will get him back into FA.  Also this new partnership between the two has loads of people on edge, mainly because Allan knows a lot of furs who have hidden alternate accounts on FA that they have used to evade unfair bannings.  Plus lately his behavior has cause him to lose a lot of friends and a short period of time, with myself being among those ranks.  Remember when he was on here bragging that he was aiding Wakewolf and other so-called "handicapped furs" during last year's AC?  Ha!  He done no such thing!  In fact he would only say something to Wakewolf whenever he wanted him to buy him a drink or a meal.  And lets not forget when he was asking for people to send him money when his laptop went out of commission...

Allan is nothing more than a moocher and a con-artist.  He begs people for money, weasel up to naive artists in order to get discounted or free art; and he plays the helpless victim in order to get poor saps to white knight for him and fight his battles.  He is a waste of time and energy- plain and simple.  A lot of people were banned from FA.  Hell I was banned by Dragoneer personally for rising questions about the actual use of the donations.  But do you see me trying to rise a ruckus and get people to campain for me and fight my battles?  Hell no!  I took my ban in stride and moved on with my life.  FA is dying as it is, so there is no point in trying to get myself back there; or rally people to fight for me.  Inkbunny is loads better.  I love it here, and everyone here is so nice and welcoming.
YamatoIouko
6 years, 8 months ago
You don't read well, do you?
Naki
6 years, 8 months ago
Despite how I'm feeling at the moment with this cold I was still quite shocked to hear you talking this way towards him.  Though I guess it just goes to show you that he still pissing people off because of how much of an idiot he can be.
SilverJackal
6 years, 8 months ago
He got on my nerves with his bitchin and moaning, kinda like how your mistress can deter people at cons with her utterly random and violent outbursts of PMS.  Though for now lets just avoid that area...

I am not the only one saying this stuff.  Myself along with a group of other furs have grown tired of Allan.  We have done everything humanly possible to steer him into the right direction, yet he is still doing the same old shit.  Hell he even stooped so low to get what he wants that he is now brown nosing Neer to see if it will get his account back.  We worked on simply trying to get neer to talk to him on even ground, and he decided to shove his muzzle so far up the digi-mutt's butt that he can smell what he ate for breakfast.  Me and a few others know this will not end well, so we're packing up and heading out before Allan's plan gets crushed and he starts another wave of bitching.
Naki
6 years, 8 months ago
Hehe yeah I'm guessing you're talking about Syn. x3  Though I have no idea why you're calling her my mistress.  But yeah as soon as I had seen that he was trying to make up with those two I knew as to why he was doing it.  Even if most others couldn't.  Hell it even seems like several people are actually supporting him in his ass kissing.  Which I have no idea why they do it honestly.  Heh hell I even called him on his, "I'm making up with everyone bs" by sending an email out with several of my accounts to see if he'll try it with me.  But of course he's just ignored it.
SilverJackal
6 years, 8 months ago
Yeah I was, and I called her your mistress because of how you seem to be right beside her.  I have heard from several people that Syn is sometimes avoided at cons because she sometimes goes into these random bitchy mood swings and takes it out on anyone nearby.  Between you and me, I think it would do her a great world of good to have some anger management classes.  Hell look at how she is with Sniff.  She is on this strange PMS driven vendetta against him all because he said that she looked like she was going to eat her kitten in a photo she posted on FA (something that is very funny since Sniff wasn't the only one that said that, yet she lashed out at him for it).

But enough about her.  This is about Allan.  I also knew the moment he was getting all buddy-buddy the "power couple" of FA, he was only doing so because he was going to try to ass kiss his way back onto that site.  Hell I was informed of way he was kicked out ya'lls group too thanks to those leaks, but also because AB told me how Allan would pester her with questions like "Will this get me back on FA?" and "Will Dragoneer speak to me if I pay everyone back?" while she was having him pay back his dues.  As I have said before, myself including a number of other furs have tried very hard to get Allan to get a job, to cut his porn addiction; and to not bother people like Wolfblade... and it got us nowhere.  So we are packing up and moving on.  He is neer's headache now.
Naki
6 years, 8 months ago
You figure there's always going to be some kind of rumor floating around.  It's more or less a matter of figuring out where the truth is behind it.  Yeah I've gotten on her case before about flipping out on things and I know I'm not the best either at times.  But I think it's a matter of standing of for something you believe in and getting frustrated when people are so blind and stupid to not see something, you know?  But part of the reason she's always seemed to be right there with me is because she's one of my close friends.  That's about all there is to it.

But yeah as far as the main point, Allan.  Even when he went back and paid all those people back he would always try to kiss ass with me and suck up to me as he did it.  Which that is something that really doesn't work with me and I kept telling him that and to stop acting like he's my friend because he's not.  Either way I'm still waiting for him to crash again because it is going to happen.  The only problem is people will still be stupid and pick his ass back up when it happens.  If people actually used their heads and stopped supporting him at all then he would probably go away for the most part.  Because he thrives on the attention.  I've seen it way too many times before.  The problem is he either won't admit to things or if he does he goes back on his word almost right away.  Though no matter what people will probably support him just because of the simple and stupid fact that they like the porn he posts.
Synhowl
6 years, 8 months ago
Since when th' HELL am I Naki's mistress?! XD Okay, -this- comment I must address. I'd love to know who told you I was a "PMSy bitch" at ANY con, ANYWHERE (especially since I've only ever been to ONE year of AC and that was it). I'm guessing it was Sniff, during the brief period of time they were friends, and from what I understand, he somehow came to the false understanding that I was hitting on people, gay bashing, and being a bitch (and I'd love to know who told him this, unless he made it up himself). For starters, I was with my mate the -entirety- of the con. He was never farther than 6 feet away from me at ANY given time. That means constant visual and verbal communication. Gotta be a special brand of skanky ho to just and rub up on people literally in FRONT of their significant other. I don't play those games, thanks. Nor was I ever anything but a loud obnoxiously laughing goofball to all the people I -did- meet. Hell, I was still recovering from a cold, my voice was shot to hell, but I -still- went and had a good time. I know it's very hard for people like yourself and Sniff to believe, but I'm actually NOT a bitch to everyone I meet. Shocking, I know. So in the future, I'd appreciate it if you leave me out of this, as I've not said a SINGLE negative thing about you in a loooooooong time. I buried -my- hatchet. With as MANY people as I possibly could, even if said people still want to keep quarreling with me. I'm DONE with that immature nonsense, and you should be, too. You fault Allan for clinging to bullshit and keeping things going, and yet you're going to do the same to me, clear out of the blue, unprovoked? How is THAT not hypocritical? C'mon, dude, seriously. Leave me outta this crap. =/
SilverJackal
6 years, 8 months ago
You fault Allan for clinging to bullshit and keeping things going, and yet you're going to do the same to me, clear out of the blue, unprovoked?
Not meaning to be rude, but there were times that you said some bad stuff about me when you were unprovoked hun.  Now that I said that stuff, which makes us even, I will also say that the outburst thing is something I didn't hear from Sniff, but from a little fox of mine when he attended a con you were at during the time.  He asked me if I ever heard of you, and I said I have and that I know you are sometimes known for your temper; and he told me that he witnessed you getting rude with another con goer for no apparent reason.  I wasn't there, so I don't really know for sure.  The only reason I said that it would do you some good to take anger management classes was because it isn't healthy to have a temper, and at times it simply best to just mellow out.  Because how you acted over Sniff in the past was beyond normal and can be seen as unhealthy.  So what if he said that you looked like you were going to eat your cat in that pic?  Over a dozen other people said the exact same thing.  That should really be something that you should've looked at from their angle and have yourself a good chuckle.

With all of that being said, I will say to you what I have already said to AB- If you come across anything of mine, you are completely free to comment; and that I will be civil as long as you are.  That whole WYS madness Bryan started got everyone off to a pretty bad start, and it is high time that all of us get into the the spirit of friendship (or at least tolerance).  There is enough commotion in this fandom, and we really don't need anymore.
Synhowl
6 years, 8 months ago
I have nothing to gain from deceiving you (as I'm not fishing for "brownie points" within this fandom--the last thing I ever want to be is "popufur"), and allow me to set the record straight. Whoever told you this, either mistook me for someone else, or is greatly mistaken. I've only ever attended that -one- years of Anthrocon, 2010. That was it. And it being my first, despite my being in cold recovery mode, I did my best to be outgoing and nice to everyone I met. I didn't even encounter in person or deal with ANY of the people I was having issues with, which was very few at the time, since at the time of that con, I hadn't yet discovered WYS (which is a period of my life I still fervidly regret to this day, but what's done is done). As for the incident with my beloved Daisy's photo ... if it's all the same to you, I'd really appreciate it if that be left in the past and not brought up again. It's still a very sore subject, and I'd rather not discuss it anymore. It happened, it's in the past, better to leave it there. I also don't dispute that in the past, I was an overly aggressive bitch, in the face of things I disagreed with. I've literally spent YEARS doing my best to grow beyond that phase in my life, and be a better and more level-headed person. I discuss, I don't argue. I mediate, I don't troll-bait. I council, I don't lecture. I vent, I don't rant. It's taken a lot of work to get to that point, but I'm not the same Syn as before. And furthermore, despite his repeated attempts in trying to randomly stir up more warfare with me in the past, I have NO hostilities towards Sniff. Haven't for a LONG time, which is why I fervidly wish he's just let all his needless hate-mongering go. Because it IS unhealthy. It only destroys people. He hasn't learned this lesson yet, and so most likely he still wants to continue on rabidly hating my guts, bring up past grievances, and conjuring up new ones, just so that he can stay mad. Not sure what the fascination is with that, seeing as how I haven't even SPOKEN to him in years, but ... people are what they are, despite what we wish they would be. Take that however you will. I honestly don't feel capable of being -friends- with him in any capacity at all, but it would be appreciated if there could someday at LEAST be a ceasefire. I've dropped everything on my end and apologized publicly TOWARDS him. Not sure how much more a person can let go than that, but he doesn't want to do the same. At least not last -I- knew. I hope that HAS changed. It's ridiculous for him to still hanging onto things that can't be changed, all this time later, when there hasn't BEEN any further escalation.
SilverJackal
6 years, 8 months ago
I believe the reason why Sniff is still up in arms over you and a few other people is because of that ED page of him that someone in WYS whipped up that more or less put a black mark on his life that should've never been placed there (he said that he think you did it, but i am not sure on it), and for that time where you let your nasty side go too far and you said something about sending him a bomb in the mail (which was something that put a black mark on YOUR life).  I will tell you that it is one thing to dislike someone and leave it at that, but that stuff that WYS pulled was totally uncalled for; and that it still has people rattled over it.  Why on Earth Bryan wanted to be a jerk and start all that unneeded crap is beyond me...  Hell I remember back when he was a watcher of my stuff on Yiffstar and was nice, but that was long ago.

Anywho, that is the past.  Let us all move on and have some fun. :3
Synhowl
6 years, 8 months ago
I agree completely. A lot of things got VERY out of hand in that entire situation (tho I WILL say that while I didn't -create- Sniff's ED page, I do admit to contributing several screenshots to the article, which was petty and immature of me) ,and it escalated to levels that it never should have. On both his part AND mine. I don't deny for a moment that I did and said some things that were royally fucked up. Hell, even all this time later, I'm -still- paying for a lot of it, despite the changes I've made. But part of fucking up is the fact that not everyone is going to forgive you. All I ask is that said people just then avoid me and leave me be, rather than continue trying to incite further trouble. People can dislike one another without it having to be all-out war, after all. Likewise, people who dislike one another can still be civil TOWARDS one another, in situations where they must coexist. It's all about being the bigger person and choosing to embrace peace, rather than continually seeking conflict. it certainly isn't doing him any favors in improving his reputation. I guarantee you that if he did as much soul-searching and rebuilding as I have had to do, he could get to the same point that I have within the fandom. DESPITE how negatively he's been portrayed. Actions, as always, speak louder than words. If he wants to make his situation better, he has to BE better. Prove the haters and naysayers wrong! If he's a kind, compassionate, patient and non-confrontational person, it makes all the slander in the past untrue, thus it loses all power over him. It's self-deprecating to combat negative information on him be proving them right. It's better to rise about all the drama and the bullshit and STRIVE to be better than what people say. SHOW them they're mistaken, y'know? That's just MY take on it. I know he prolly wipes his ass with whatever I have to say (helpful or not), simply because it's me saying it, LOL. Oh well. I've long since made peace with the fact that you can't win 'em all. Sometimes you gotta just keep on trucking.

And I agree. Bygones are bygones, and there's no reason why we can't be civil with one another. =3
greenmont
6 years, 8 months ago
This comment chain is longer than the actual journal.
Synhowl
6 years, 8 months ago
Heh, indeed it is! XD
Alexanderxkiba
6 years, 8 months ago
Well...this sucks ass! I'm sorry, hope everything goes well for ya.
Thatonedude0321
6 years, 8 months ago
yum. drama.

now, everyone go back to your porn. everyone.
Surge
6 years, 8 months ago
Here's hoping that shithead gets hit by a bus.
Ophire
6 years, 8 months ago
Well that blows chunks.
BlueKewne
6 years, 8 months ago
What is it with furs and block evading?

If someone blocks you that means they want nothing to do with you.
Creating alts and getting other people to contact the person on your behalf does nothing more than piss them off more.

If someone blocks you, deal with it and move on.
If they are willing to unblock you they'll do it on their own behalf when they feel like they should.
Pestering only makes the person want to avoid you more.
kasharo
6 years, 8 months ago
Ah, so that's the big story. All the little pieces I've read about that guy are now falling and clicking into place.
Sorry that you have to put up with all this. Keep your chin up!
AlexReynard
6 years, 8 months ago
0.o

Okay... I just keep fucking going back and forth on this Allan guy. At first all I knew of him were the pics I'd see of him here and there on FA. Then I started hearing rumors about he was the furry Antichrist, culminating in Dragoneer giving him the biggest hate-raping I have ever seen him give anyone. It was partly that his actions *had* to be disproportionally retributive, and partly your journal, that made me reconsider the rumors. At that point, I was wholly Allan-neutral.

Then, here on IB, I saw him do something really nice for someone else, out of the blue. I thought that was cool and said so. He quite politely asked for a drawing, and I thought 'Why not?' He was patient while waiting for me to finish it and grateful when I did. So I'm thinking, 'Maybe he's a nice guy after all.'

Now this. And now I don't fuckin' know WHAT to think.
SilverJackal
6 years, 8 months ago
My advice when it comes to Allan is to run far, and run fast.  He doesn't do something nice for a person just because its the right thing to do.  He does it because he knows that he can hold it over the person's head later and get them to do whatever he wants.  Heck whenever he makes a journal where he says "hey watch this guy!", he is doing it to try to butter up the artist so he can squeeze a discounted or free art.
BrokenPupper
6 years, 8 months ago
GASP
6 years, 8 months ago
This guy is fucking deranged.
PeachClover
6 years, 8 months ago
Wolfblade's Alignment: True Neutral.
samsondrave
6 years, 8 months ago
I've never been well-acquainted with the guy or know anything about him aside from the crap involving his existence and actions, but I'll keep this in mind regardless.
Torias
6 years, 8 months ago
Artists that draw as their livelihood are busy people.
People like him that choose to make their lives harder by pretending to be important are just plain inconsiderate.

He'd better stop soon.
isthisagoodname
6 years, 8 months ago
I don't respond to any comments he makes or may have made to any of my submissions at any site I post them to he's still allowed on.
Arithehusky
6 years, 8 months ago
Sooo, yeah. I just blocked his ass. I didn't realize that blocking someone on IB blocks him from seeing my stuff! Now he won't see anything I post anymore, especially if it's your stuff that I'm coloring and posting. I've known about him and stayed far away, but since I've posted stuff he's been asking for a friend request, faving everything, watching, all that. Soooo yeah. Not anymore. Jerk.

[Edit] LOL. Have you looked at his page? Here; I'll quote from it:
"Also, I have ZERO tolerance for drama.
Anyone who tests me will be blocked and reported; no exceptions!"

So apparently, according to the powers that be, as much as you 'test' him and try to get rid of him, you're the exception, Blade. He just loooooves you so much. Isn't that sweet?

In all seriousness, I'll do what I can to keep him from seeing anything that you've made. He's not worthy ;3
SDWolf
6 years, 8 months ago
*blinks*  Wow, that's... disturbing, though also enlightening.

I was dimly aware of Alan's falling-out with FA, but didn't know any details until now, let alone Dragoneer's shenanigans (dishonesty?) and your role in all of this.  It all makes a lot more sense now.
CookieWusky
6 years, 8 months ago
sounds like a jerk :P
Zarphus
6 years, 8 months ago
tl; dr version: just avoid him in general.
nekkofox
6 years, 8 months ago
Ugh, drama drama drama drama drama.

I won't say he's a bad guy in the sense that I do not KNOW him personally, but by how you described him and what I have heard of him, this is not something that can just be handled by a simple 'chat'. It would take many hours of direct therapy, a licensed professional, prescription drugs, and time for him to recuperate.

Now, he's never harassed me, but I can see that many people have taken issue with him, and many of the same reasons you've listed, so it can't be discounted as 'petty grudges'; when this many people have a problem with a person...it's a bloody legitimate problem.

Regrettably, seeking police assistance may be the resort you need to turn to if this continues as it has for so long. I'm sorry that you are having to deal with this nonsense when you aren't feeling well yourself ( you having mentioned before of pain in your wrists from too many hours at the computer and doing art) and so I urge you take your leave of this place for a time, gather your wits, and maybe, again, MAYBE inform him one more time to never contact you again. If he persists...well, the gauntlet has been thrown.
combaticus666
6 years, 8 months ago
damn...
lucashoal
6 years, 8 months ago
That boy's got some problems. Good grief.
Munkster
6 years, 8 months ago
I will say, I was a little curious about what happened between you two, but I guess I know it now...

I'm sorry you have to deal with that though wolf, I know how sane people can be, I can only immagine people lacking ye capacity to stop
Whiskeywolf
6 years, 8 months ago
I'm sure you love doing what you do, but I don't think I could handle this kind of social onslaught. You're a nice guy, you gave me good advice once, and I took it. Too bad this guy couldn't do the same.
JudahVishas
6 years, 8 months ago
Hit him with a brick. That fixes everything.

--Kyuu<serious3
RoareyRaccoon
6 years, 8 months ago
Jesus I didn't know it was this bad for you. Well on account of this I wont draw for him anymore either.
SenGrisane
6 years, 8 months ago
When the monkey's start to fling poop, everyone gets his share. Even if you just wanna help and settle the dispute it is impossible to stay clean.
AlyssaKamber
6 years, 8 months ago
Ouch. Hoping the flood lets up. I've heard convincing arguments for both views on Allan, but as long as he never contacts me, I'm happy to just stay out of it without forming a specific opinion.
Uillian
6 years, 8 months ago
Shit dude harassment is bad enough but sending others do to your dirty work is plan sad. In my opinion regarding the "I am tired of this" I would be too, seems like furry popularity is like stardom, I think that either he gets a life, or you just get him off here. Internet bullying/harassment is a serious offense, I see that here from the emails. I did not know how much he was bothering you, to be frank I had no idea, but think that I just feel for you man. Hopefully he takes the hint soon.

*HUGS*
Liam
6 years, 8 months ago
He tried to pull this on me too. I just told him I wouldn't get in the middle of it, since Wolfblade and me aren't exactly on speaking terms anyway. Evidently the correct decision, seeing as I had no idea how far this goes. I have my own issues, but at least I can take a hint and wouldn't dream of harassing Wolfblade...
NachTSS
6 years, 8 months ago
I dont know him personaly but all I've heard is stuff like what your saying and have mentioned. x.x also thats horrible I used to have a internet stalker too.
prufen
6 years, 8 months ago
This is HILARIOUS
BerserkerB
6 years, 8 months ago
Oh so that's what had happened with Lupine Assassin. I was wondering what that was all about. Well, from what you've mentioned, logic and reasoning are not his strong points. Unless of course he understands what is going on, then he is just a charlatan.
RevampSkunk
6 years, 8 months ago
a charlatran? what is that?
BerserkerB
6 years, 8 months ago
A con-man, fraud, liar, snake-oil salesman, cheat, etc, etc.
sonicfreak2753
6 years, 8 months ago
And here I thought that the history of Allan was slowly being laid to rest. But here comes the next chapter, Allan: Behind the Scenes.
zeran
6 years, 8 months ago
wow....just wow.  here i thought oh a  minute journal read turns into a long adventure.  i have never dealt with allan before i don't know why just always kinda gave me that uneasy feeling *shrugs* i say simply take time to let yourself heal have a nice hot cup of tea with some toast and just let all the drama slid off of ya.
LAKenji
6 years, 8 months ago
Well, the few times I've talked with Allan he didn't act in that way. The last chat we had he asked for money for pay taxes, in a politely way.
I'm neutral about this :/
ezalias
6 years, 8 months ago
Google is such a wonderful thing. "Who's this guy IM'ing me? Don't think it's an old friend. Let's see if I can match a face or character to the name. Oh, Wikifur says he's a scammer." Baleeted.
Naki
6 years, 8 months ago
That's why it's sad and funny that he tries telling people that he's done pulling stunts and causing problems.  Because hes obviously not.  It's just the fact that most of the people that follow him and kiss his ass can't really think for themselves and see past what he's saying.
ZJamesCampbell
6 years, 8 months ago
So he IS still an asshole.  Good to know.
Deadreaver
6 years, 8 months ago
WoW... Didn't know that retards could use internet...
krevtehfurry
6 years, 8 months ago
I could have sworn that 4chan was well known, looks like you're a lucky one though.

Ps. Not even I can tell what that is so I'll just specify right now that it's a compliment.
foxboyprower
6 years, 8 months ago
huh... noted.
RedReynart
6 years, 8 months ago
I don't even have a clue who this person is. From the sounds of it, This is all Highly Political in veiws and ethnics. In the begining all I heard was some guy got blasted out on rumors and ethnics. Especially on a part which he took in donations then spent money on commissions.

In defence of this: Who is to know where and how someone obtains money? If you gave money to a bum, would you be mad if he spent in on booze?

In the Opossition of this: If someone is demanding money to pay bills, then pays for something else. I do feel that the person should of made a wiser decission. But as I stand, would you take the money back from a homeless bum that bought booze over a new set of clothes?

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As for this person harrasing you after you wanted to cut relations. Yes this person doesn't need to do that neither does anyone. But you shouldn't acknowledge it. Nor should you bash the person the way you did here. Simply ignor and move on.

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You aren't the only person that has been harrased. The least thing you can do is put a stop to the drama and say nothing.
Wolfblade
6 years, 8 months ago
Ethics. Ethnics is something else.

"Who is to know where and how someone obtains money?" Me. Because I asked him and he told me. He was asking for donations to pay for food and bills so he could use the money he was getting as severance from his last job to buy commissions. In his mentally handicapped thinking, he didn't see what was wrong because only the account with "his" money was used for commissions, while he never spent any of the money in the donation account for anything but food or bills.

If you give money to a bum, and don't understand that it likely will be spent on booze, then you're naive. This money was given to someone with internet access specifically saying the money was for food and bills, when he already HAD money for those things. He just didn't want to spend HIS money on them because then he couldn't get commissions.

As for 'simply ignore and move on' that is what I did. When he was just harassing ME, I block him whenever he pops up, and that's that. This is about him harassing >OTHERS< to try and get at me. And doing it repeatedly, many many times, for over a year now. He's tried to blackmail people to get them to convince me to talk to him. I can ignore people wanting to fuck with >me.< I can not and will not ignore somebody fucking with OTHER people because of me.

The notion that ANY problem is EVER fixed by just ignoring it is simply retarded and I'm tired of hearing people spout it as if it's some all-powerful bit of higher wisdom. Nothing is >fixed< by just ignoring it. Sometimes a fire will eventually burn out on its own, and other times the problem will just become someone else's problem. But it's never >fixed< by ignoring it. I'm not okay with knowing that "it's someone else's problem now" or any shit. If something's wrong, it needs to be addressed. He's had countless chances to back the fuck off, and his handicap is no excuse to allow him to be a nuisance to others. If this journal helps even just a few people from being pestered by him, then it's worth the trouble. Any flak Allan gets at this point is nobody's fault but his own.
Rupert
6 years, 8 months ago
The guy that you are responding to is using typical "blame the victim" tactics. If he does respond and he does not read my post first, he will probably make another comment about taking the higher road and what not. It is probably best to ignore people like him.
Wolfblade
6 years, 8 months ago
The same thing I said to him applies, though.

I don't think anything is improved by ignoring people doing or saying something that is simply wrong.

The "take the high road/be the better man" line is >deeply< ingrained in our culture: the idea that being a better person means allowing and accepting when someone else wrongs you. We're taught "well, you have to respect everyone's beliefs" even when those beliefs are absolutely and directly causing the perpetuation of ignorance and harm.

If someone makes a comment that is just them being idiotic and not worth a response, I will simply delete it. But if it's something wrong that is a sadly commonly held viewpoint, I will respond to it. Most of the time, I know that the person I am actually responding to will never see reason or change their view. I make these responses to these views in the hopes that if someone else sees the wrong opinion stated, they will also see my opposing viewpoint, and hopefully pick the better way of looking at things. That's all.

When I see stuff like "take the high road, ignore it, be the better man" I want people to >also< see my opposing viewpoint on that attitude. I like to think that if people actually stop and THINK about those lines that they've heard since childhood and many people just accept, then maybe they'll understand how much bullshit they are. Maybe they'll realize how much preventable garbage people have to deal with only because the ones who ARE the better men think they have to sit and do nothing rather than stand up and obstruct even the little things that shitty people do to others.
Wolfblade
6 years, 8 months ago
TL;DR version:

Ignoring when people are wrong leaves their viewpoints unchallenged and gives them no impetus to change, and leaves the impression that when someone DOES challenge them, it's rare and the person challenging them is a minority opinion. If more people challenged instead of just ignored, there'd be clearer confirmation that they are wrong, and there'd be more incentive for them to adjust their views and behavior. Of course there will always be wrong assholes, but there'd be LESS of them if people stopped just ignoring them as if they weren't the cause of everything being so shitty all the time.
RedReynart
6 years, 8 months ago
Well I had many experiences with the furry community.  Many with really annoying dweebs, stalkers, and plain out creeps and trolls.

There are Hundreds of ways to deal with things. One way is to not feed the fire. The more you say things like, "mental state of mind, retard" So on and so forth the more you are setting your self up for retaliation. This can be from his friends and or himself.

By creating a journal. Simple lines such as stating that you don't wish to speak to him because you blocked him for personal reasons and want to let others know that are watching you whom may of been contacted by him to not contact you about him on his behalf...

Keeping it short and simple will "take the high road" and keep the drama out .. Now as I did say there are many ways of dealing with people.. If you know this person is doing something wrong *harrasment for one. Save your logs. Pms what have you and send it into the admins of every site you have had this issue and have him blocked and banned. If he continues. Really the only thing you can do is try to ignor. I don't know if you know but from experience I tried to get a creep off another artists back by talking to this person. I tried to put it simple to this person and this person created over a dozen accounts, and keept on and keept on and just when I thought it was all over and I finally knocked some sence into the guy. The next day it was the same thing. Don't know who I am talking about? Just ask SavageCynder on FA ....  Seriouly... After a while the guy finally gave up... As sad as it may be, last message spoke of suicide .. Who knows.. But sometimes you just can't do a darn thing about people who are just that way..
Because you try and do anything and it becomes a mess. TRUST ME..  >.< I will hate rap forever.

The best advice is to fight your battles wisely. Because there is only so much ammo to go around.

The very VERY last thing you do is want to call out your opponeant and try to discredit and show hatred in a battle in a journal. Its not a battle of character, its a battle of wits. Who will hold out the longest? The one harrasing or the one being harrased? Already with much tension in your words you already are begining to break as he is finding any and all who may be in relations with you to use as ammo to further harass you. Well a fair warning to your fans will shurly stop the supply convoy. Save your logs too of any and all messages being sent by other people and file a report to the admins. It will be like calling in an air stike. The more you can get on him and of his doings the more you can get him banned from any other site. Admins just not cutting it? Creeper keeps coming back? Well you know what an IP address is right? well I am shure that the FBI can deal with such things if you just want to press the little red button on the whole shabang.

But as you can see what ever you do .. Just make shure to make your kill as silent as possible. The last thing you want is again DRAMA..
RedReynart
6 years, 8 months ago
My point wasn't to do anything about this, it was to not acknowledge him by ignoring his attempts. I didn't say anything about not putting a stop to it just don't do it directly. That is what I mean by Ignore. Not to ignore the situation but him himself. That of course does make it the higher road. But of course this isn't ingrained nature. Its writen in the Art of War..

Of course the low road would be to create a sceen as big as possible try and get back fire from him by flaming him out. Show the guy has found you and say to all your fans SEE there he is harrasing me. Continue to stoop lower by critisizing his intellegence and his friends (which only are made through black mail) and do this untill about a month goes by and a mod finally comes by and sees a mess and shuts it all down..  Of course your fellow harrasser/stalker would be banned but perhaps 50% of your veiwers would think diffrently when they see how low you can go.. again drama is long ingrained into the furry culture, :P So I am done talking and will just pop a bag of popcorn and watch the pretty fireworks.
Wolfblade
6 years, 8 months ago
When I say he is retarded/mentally disabled, I mean >actually< mentally disabled. He has been diagnosed with a significant mental handicap. HE is the one who told me this. He has an inability to grasp certain things. I'm not saying it to be insulting, I mean it in the clinical sense: he has a mental disability.

I >did< go to the site about this the last time he was using InkBunny to contact the person he was sending at me. They warned him and he hasn't used InkBunny for this again since. Now he contacts people in email and IMs. You can't expect InkBunny to ban him for stuff he does off-site.

It is very unlikely that you have more experience than I do dealing with problem people of this sort. I've been active in the fandom for over a decade now, and was one of the most active admins on FA for over a year. Allan is a special case because of his mental disability. But that doesn't excuse him for doing this shit. Every person he's sent at me, I have explained the situation and asked them to tell him yet again to stop doing this, that I will not EVER allow him back in. But he's too broken to get the message, so he keeps doing this. The only reason I took it this far and made this journal was because it had reached a point of stalemate. Either I left things as they were, and he would continue to do this to people perpetually, or I had to do something. Contacting him in any way would be out of the question as to his dysfunctional way of thinking, that equates to this method of harassment succeeding in getting what he wanted: a response from me.

I don't care if some people think less of me for this. Because those people don't comprehend the situation. Losing face with them is not something I'm concerned about if it means I've gotten at least a few more people aware of him doing this, so he can't con them into doing it for him.
RedReynart
6 years, 8 months ago
If he outright told you he isn't all that well upstairs then that indeed is a diffrent situation then just stating someone is mental... Of course I can't confirm anyof this either way.

Been around for 8 years now.. Not really that long compared to several others. I know. But I have had alot over the years to deal with and its really a pain to do...

I don't mind anyone giving fair warning about anything I try to give fair warnings to hundrends of people. Some listen some dont... Its hard to really decide how to take something when you don't fully understand the situation though. That is true when you haven't been there.

If the person is using emails to get in touch with your other fans well then get in touch with yahoo,msn what ever he is afilliated with and put a block on this guy as a spamer, and harasser. If you know other fans are in fact being harrassed well try to get proof of this as something to show and then give the email he is useing so we can put it in our block lists as to not even worry about reciving a message.

RedReynart
6 years, 8 months ago
Since your post is directly under mine I take "that guy" is refering to me? Just want to make shure before I respond back.. PS where is your other post you mentioned?
Wolfblade
6 years, 8 months ago
I think you misread "read my post first" as "read my first post."
RedReynart
6 years, 8 months ago
Yeah I just noticed that, PS in his responce. I am not blaming you for anything.. Just warning you about you don't want drama. That is the point of the entire statment. As I mentioned. I don't know this guy or what he did. If he done something you disaprove of well then that is your opinion. If he is harrasing you as you say. Well then that is something needed to be taken care of. I am trying to stay and remain neutral through and through. Im a fan and watcher. :P Why should I be caught up in all the mess? I tried to fight someone elses battle before. Didn't go so well..
WillowMouse
6 years, 8 months ago
All the dramas, :<
WillowMouse
6 years, 8 months ago
Well, I make it a point not to involve myself in other people's drama, so I don't think I'll ever be contacting you to speak on his behalf. I may shoot you an IM just to say hi, however.
Synhowl
6 years, 8 months ago
A friend of mine directed me to this and I have to say that you pretty much hit the nail RIGHT on the head, when it comes to Allan. In my brash and stupid phase within this fandom, I made a LOT of dumb mistakes. One of them was most CERTAINLY trying to help this individual. He is utterly and completely incapable of reform, and equally incapable of NOT being stalkerish and clingy. And as you said, he -never- listens, unless it's about something he wants or needs. Knowing about this situation you're going through with him makes me EXTREMELY glad that I've done my damnedest to withdraw completely from all the ridiculous "furry politics" and hair-brained drama that people like to obsess upon. I wish you luck in doing the same. It certainly isn't easy, when people keep trying to drag you back in.
FoxLogic
6 years, 8 months ago
And now I understand just a little more about the drama about this guy…
Niji
6 years, 8 months ago
O.o oh gosh. I didn't even think it was possible for someone to ignore being ignored, so this makes a first time seeing it(though I guess logically it should be possible) O.O
Lots of opinions on the matter, but well I hope some magical stuff happens and what not and blam over.
Reyedog
6 years, 8 months ago
All I can say is wash rinse repeat with him and why I don't allow him on my networks anymore.
Silverlonewolf
6 years, 8 months ago
I can understand where you are coming from. He can be pushy he can be very demanding at times.  I am not taking sides but He has shown signs he has changed a bit and he told me personally he has been leaving you alone because he don't like you seeing you angered at him... truth or not I think both sides need to calm down. I have tons of people harassing me but it is just the net and I choose to not respond to them without the mute/ignore features it offers. Journals like these will only make the situation worst and make not only him but both sides look bad.

If I didn't know better one side looks like an asshole and the other looks like a Sissie... you take your guess on which side who is on. I am not trying to take sides or be insulting... I am just giving my point of view that both sides need to chill out.
Wolfblade
6 years, 8 months ago
The only reason he has been leaving me alone is because he forced me to block him from every single avenue of communicating with me. Multiple times, from multiple accounts. He is one of only two people ever that I have had to block from email. He hasn't "left me alone," I have left him no way to keep bothering me.

So he started this crap of approaching other people to try and get them to talk to me on his behalf. And he's been doing it for a while now.

If you or anyone else thinks it makes >me< look bad to let people know to not let him bother them with this crap, then I'm not concerned with your opinion. My concern is a mentally broken individual making himself a nuisance to others because I've denied him the ability to continue being a nuisance to me. I'm tired of nice people coming to me, thinking they're helping someone mend a friendship, and then when I tell them that he's been doing this, and what the backstory is, he turns ugly on >them< for failing to get me to let him approach me again. This isn't me blowing up at the first time of it happening. This is me being fed up after more than a YEAR of seeing him do this to people.

So I'm making a public statement. Letting people know. The list of people who tried helping him and tried being friends with him, but eventually being fed up with his bullshit continues to grow. And he has made >no< signs of changing his behavior except to people who have not been paying attention to the full history of his behavior. So this is me trying to spare people from wasting their time on him.

I know it's hard for people to understand since most people seem only concerned about stuff affecting them directly. But for me, I am more bothered by shit dumped on other people. Allan doesn't bother >me< anymore. He refused to back off until I cut off every approach he had. So he doesn't exist to me >except< when someone else with a good nature and good intentions is USED by him for this garbage. So I am terribly sorry if you consider me a sissy for having a problem with watching Allan STILL just using people who don't know any better.

Maybe one day you'll have your fill of him too, and then you'll understand why people eventually reach a point of just not feeling that his bullshit >should< be ignored and excused anymore.
Silverlonewolf
6 years, 8 months ago
Allan and I had a few fights and all. And I agree he can be a nuisance and all. He isn't the brightest man I know, I can prove this by giving him tips to help him see things in a new perspective for a better change but it goes over his head. He did insult me when I did at first refuse to believe his side and all, it was one big fight between him and I. I do also admit he can be a capital prick when he is angered or upset at someone. Many people warn me of his actions and what he did here and there that screwed people over and all the rumors in between what he did. I agree once more yes he has tried to get people to talk to you on his behalf. I being one of them.

But he is human after all and no one is a perfect angel. It bothers me to see people forget about this fact.

When things clam down briefly between him and I, it was then I later looked things over. And I will not say what made me think differently of him. I do not want to cause further issues. But I can say is I have a few friends that met him and say he is super helpful, even lending money to a fur at a con who was sick that con period and needed money for medication after going to the hospital. This is a resource I can trust 100% as I trust this friend of mine 100%.

He even helped me giving me money to help me get out of a almost $500 bank debt cause I was careless. You and many others may say he bought my friendship when in fact I came to him first way before he helped me and I listened to him.  Also I am a religious guy.... From what I saw with my own eyes and heard with my own ears. He helped the sick, the needing, and been super patient with me and many others. Those are traits not many people have these days and this is one drop out of a ocean of proof that he is doing good.

So in exchange I want to show him my friendship. I been there for him and listening to him before and after and all is in between. When he mentions wanting to say something about you, I been telling him to also get off your back and so far he has been listening to me. I really thinks he needs another human to give him a chance to show he can change. We all do bad things in hour past that haunts us. It takes a real man to try to face the ghosts of the past and try to make things right.

And no one is perfect... that is what makes us perfectly human. I use to be in your shoes. I had a room mate that was crazy... I went as far as even pressing a restraining order against him after he moved out and threaten my life. He calls and harasses me on the phone and Online so many times... at least 3-5 times a day.

One day I confronted him and told him I do not wish to talk to him. I said my reasons why calmly on a respectable manner and told him to leave me alone and even given him a heads up I am going to block him form every IM and he knew I was serious. He made alt accounts and got his friends to try to talk to me. As angered as I was about this I remain calm and told anyone that he sent my way "Look I know you are trying ot be good but that man burn bridges with me. I have given him chances and there is so much I can take. I wish not to talk to him I hope you understand... Please and thank you." and I do not put them on mute/or ignore, but I ignore what they type afterwards. In the end it is just words.

BUT journals like this here will start more conflicts. Rumors will spread and the fires will have much more to feed on. This here makes you two look like asses I will not lie and it makes others look like assholes too that insult him here. And I am not trying to defend him. I openly admit he is an asshole too when things was rough between us. He can be a selfish mother fucker but at least this fucker is trying to change for good than most people I seen.  Here you are trying to tell people something when you could just keep cool and deal with this yourself like a grown man. I am taking no sides I am just stating the facts you two need to grow up and part ways by not talking about each other!
Silverlonewolf
6 years, 8 months ago
and this post used 4000 characters exactly!
Wolfblade
6 years, 8 months ago
You don't get it.

I parted ways. I stopped talking to him. He's using other people to keep it going. It's been YEARS since I have said a word to him. Still he does this REPEATEDLY and REGULARLY.

It is not a matter of "be a grown man" and continue to sit idly by and ignore him harassing other people to get to me. That entire line of thinking, that it is better to allow and ignore when someone is doing something wrong, it is all bullshit. "The bigger/better man" is the one that tries to STOP someone from doing wrong to others. Especially when he is involved in why it is happening.

Some people are simply too self-centered in their evaluation of this crap. Several of you say "just ignore him" as if that's the proper course of action. You're completely ignoring or failing to see that what has me mad now is how he's affecting >other< people. I >have< ignored him in every single way and denied him any ability to contact me at all. But I'm not going to ignore him continuing to harass other people to get to me. If you don't understand this, then I'm sorry, but that's part of his problem.
Silverlonewolf
6 years, 8 months ago
I do get it. I really do but like I said before. You are not any better by doing this yourself. And when I say deal with it like a real man I mean just stop being a child about it, take this down and Just walk away. Ignore it brush it off your shoulders and keep your eyes on the prize that are your goals in life.

We are almost the same age yet I can see you are not able to comprehend on being mature. This only fuels more drama... more people will hate him or hate him even more. This makes you look like an assholes and you too have a ton of people that do not like you either and you are giving them fuel too to use against you and hate you even more. So all you are you doing is creating the MOAB (Mother of all bombs) made from drama against yourself.

We humans we all make mistakes and we all deserve chances to change ourselves. But keep in mind, when you point at someone your own hand points three more fingers back at you. So stop this non-sense and take it like a real man.
CimmaronSpirit
6 years, 8 months ago
Man, you seem to be having a tough time with all of this O_o

Well, rest up, and good luck. Hope your wrists feel better soon ^^
Chase
6 years, 8 months ago
Oh, look, it's THIS thread again. And while I am not surprised, I am amused that it has happened so often to warrant a pre-written message. Maybe this time he will get the message, but I won't hold my breath.
RevampSkunk
6 years, 8 months ago
1. This journal has way too much drama, and to agree on one of the commentors...both of you need to grow up.
2. If it's been happening for over a year now, then you need to "pull the trigger" or just let it go.

The fact that you're still lettin it happen has merit. It's up to you in the end, but I say nip it in the bud before you start looking bad for tolerating stuff like this and posting journals for more drama.
Wolfblade
6 years, 8 months ago
I'm more than slightly annoyed at how many people seem to think this is a two-sided issue.

What do you people think I am responsible for, here? I tried everything to sort it out with him and when everything failed, I ultimately blocked him from every single avenue of communication. What more do you think >I< can do to control >his< behavior?

My options at this point are to either ignore and allow that he's going to continue to take advantage of the good intentions of others, or to do this and try to make people aware of his bullshit before they've allowed him to use them like this. I cut him off from ME, I ignored the everliving fuck out of him. He's harassing other people, and sending THEM to bring this shit to me. I can't ignore THEM too, they haven't done anything wrong.

There is no "you're still letting it happen," this shit is beyond my control and the most I can do to try and stop it, to show I am NOT tolerating his garbage, is to try and pre-emptively spare other people from the bother.

Unless someone gets the fucker locked up, there's not anything more anybody can do to get him to stop this. This is an entirely one-sided bit of bullshit. I have done everything possible to end the garbage, he's the one who's too impaired to understand that I want nothing to do with him and that it's not okay to use other people to try to get me to change my mind.
FriskECoyote
6 years, 8 months ago
Awwr... why do people have to keep harassing Mr. Blade? *huggles* JD wanted to cheer you up, so I e-mailed you a piccy of him! ^  ^
CashewLou
6 years, 8 months ago
Lupine Assassin has long been, and will always be, a malignant wart on the asshole of society. Those who refuse to admit they have a problem will never seek resolution to said problem, and this chunk of butt cheese is a textbook example. He lives by the credo "even negative publicity is publicity," and as long as people pay attention to him--despite the reason they are paying attention, he is happy. As you so ably said, to him, Lupine Assassin is the world and the world is Lupine Assassin. Other people and their financial resources are simple means toward the end of the glorification of Lupine Assassin the Holy. Other people do not exist to him as people.

This guy is beneath subhuman garbage, WB. Keep doing what you are doing, and my blessings and best wishes are extended as you try to extract this tumor.
Reyedog
6 years, 8 months ago
You took the words right out of my mouth. lol But goddamn, I wish that Guy would just f'ing stop bothering people He never gets it through his thick damn skull.. and now i'm ranting on about this shit again.
Silverlonewolf
6 years, 8 months ago
He has stopped bothering people... He has not send anyone anymore awhile ago. He told me this himself. Why Blade posted this up? I do not know...
Wolfblade
6 years, 8 months ago
If he told you that, then he lied. I only put this up because he did it again. I posted this journal the same day that someone I had only just recently started talking to came to me with the same deal. Allan saw him mention me, IM'ed him, then went into the sob story about wishing I'd unblock him, and getting this guy to talk to me about it.

Silverlonewolf
6 years, 8 months ago
I do not know you. Ever since the dust has settled, he has been showing he is more mature. Allen has not lied to me one bit as I looked over what he did. And you forgot to grasp the concept that this person that you been "RECENTLY" talking to could be an instigator. I wouldn't put much thought into one person as there are many people out there that wish to see the fires that destroy still have a form of fuel to keep going and keep on damaging some more.
Wolfblade
6 years, 8 months ago
This person has no reason to lie. They only just found the fandom recently. They had no awareness of Allan's history, or of him doing this shit for so long already. Allan has already established a long and persistent pattern of behavior. There is no sense in assuming that a story that is entirely and perfectly fitting with Allan's already established behavior from a person with no motive to make it up and no knowledge to be ABLE to make it up, is a lie.

You go ahead and believe Allan. Contribute to enabling his bullshit behavior until you find yourself on the receiving end of it. I am not fueling flames. He is the one continuing to do this shit, and it won't stop until HE stops, which isn't likely because he is simply fucking broken. I will not simply sit and take it or sit and watch him continue to use other people. Any value system that says it is better to sit and watch, doing nothing, as someone takes advantage of other people for personal gain is a FUCKED and skewed value system. I am doing SOMETHING to decrease the number of people he'll be able to have fooled like you, which is all I can do. Whether you ever understand that or not is no longer my concern.
Damaron
6 years, 8 months ago
I've heard about and seen the guy's character drawn.
I hope he gets the hint at some point. (probably not)
I still enjoy your work WolfBlade. Have for a long time. Shame you had to waste so much time on that goober.
Damaron
6 years, 8 months ago
He added me to his watch and wants me to friend him on here. He must be watching this thread. No BS!
KatzFirepaw
6 years, 8 months ago
Alan's still around? I figured he'd have left the fandom by now...

You know, what all his friends need to do to help is to STOP donating him money. I mean, in most cases, if a friend needs money, you can lend them money, but Alan needs people to STOP giving him money, so he'll be forced to get to work on making his OWN.
Krechevskoy
6 years, 8 months ago
I'm certain everyone here has said more than plenty, though I would just like to chip in that I have also had issues with LupineAssassin.  I'm sure this is nothing that Blade needs to hear, but more a testimony for other people's sake.

I had blocked him due to the general air of drama that seems to surround him.  I had not ever talked to him or interacted really in any way.  I got a friend request over IM from him one day, and out of peeked curiosity, I decided to answer him.  He made a deceptively polite request to be unblocked, so I agreed and removed the block.  No big deal, I figured I'd give him a chance.  He then proceeded to go into his back story of "The Drama", going on for easily an hour about how nobody understood, and even linking me to radio interviews with him about this dramatic event.  What perplexed me most about all this though, is that for all his talking, I had absolutely no idea what he had even been accused of.  He never once made even a remotely clear hint as to -why- everyone seemed to hate him, just going on about how they just all were ignorant of the issues.  So after a while I politely excused myself from the conversation and went offline.

I had hoped he was just annoyed by the block and would change his tune later on.  Unfortunately, I was very wrong.  Talking about his past dramas while constantly spouting "I hate drama" seems to be the -only- thing he is capable of doing.   It is extremely difficult to steer him onto any other topic.  Further, his tactic of talking exclusively about dramatic things while stopping every so often to remind you how much he hates drama is basically the equivalent of sitting around drinking large swigs from a Coca-Cola can, rambling about how much you hate Soda.  Oh!  But this isn't soda, it is Coke!  Totally different!

Still though, he was boring, annoying, and he was very keen to show off his "battle scars" as it were, but he hadn't done anything to wrong me, so I figured I'd just ignore him and let sleeping dogs lie.  So I stopped interacting with him over IM much at all beyond a casual greeting, and figured that would be that.  What I wasn't expecting was that he would take to looking around for posts I'd made to other users, particularly those he doesn't like.  I understand he has a lot of enemies and a lot of past dramas (as well as current), and there are people that he really doesn't like.  However, this is where he crossed the line with me.

Allan, multiple times, including after I had talked to him about it already, either publicly through IM/PM, disrespected people I was friends with, including but not limited to yourself, Blade.  He even had gone so far as to ask me to stop openly and freely communicating with @Arcturus.  I'm not too close to arcturus, and I hadn't even honestly been agreeing with him through our conversation at the time, but apparently my simply holding dialog with him was enough for Allan to send me a private message:

" LupineAssassin wrote:
Do me a favor?
Stop encouraging @Arcturus please, ok?


To put it bluntly, that was the point when I decided enough was enough.  After multiple times and warnings, he had gone far enough, so I sent him a note, which I will post part of, simply because I think it was something that needed to be said, though I really doubt he read the whole thing, and I am certain it had no effect on him.

This post is too long, so my response will be below this, but to summarize things for anyone reading this: Stay away from LupineAssassin.  He is hardly worth the time it takes to block him.
Krechevskoy
6 years, 8 months ago
My message to LupineAssassin who promptly blocked me and began to spread negative remarks about me:
" I have a myriad of friends who probably dislike you, either for your history, or just your general behavior, or whatever, but they are still friends of mine, and I ask that you do not disrespect or insult them in front of me, especially if it is because of their opinion of you.

YOU are unimportant to me.  An insignificant little nobody that has done nothing special to earn my adoration.  If I pay you any extra mind it is in the same way a parent pays more attention to a child who has pissed them self.  You have a drama filled history, and you have made some poor or questionable choices before.  Should I give you a big old high five because of that?

I am certainly aware that you haven't exactly had things easy in the past, but I wasn't there for that, and I am not particularly interested.  I'm interested in you as a person, in the present.  If you want to earn any favor with me, or most people, you have to do so through your actions in the present.  Be a good person, treat others nicely, avoid drama, be good to your friends, and just block the "trolls" and "haters" and let them fester in their own filth.  So far, I have seen you point and yell at pretty much every dramatic thing you can, repeatedly dig up the past and wheel the corpse around like a trophy, and make enemies out of people.

Allan, I am really trying rather hard to like you, and more than that, to be helpful to you, but please don't be surprised if you find yourself back on my block list.  Multiple times now you have disrespected people I am close to.
SojiroEX
6 years, 8 months ago
You have charged my llamas up to maximum power, I shall now unleash them upon the world. Behold my maniacal laughter as I be evil.
KodaO
6 years, 3 months ago
I'm not choosing sides by any means, and it's probably just the fact that I can't hate anyone for any reason. And not the I'm defending him. But was this really appropriate Blade. I guess it wasn't me who was affected by this.. But I thought you told me once not to post this kind of stuff on art sites.. And to keep it between the persons involved...

Sorry to impose, but I felt this needed to be said.
Wolfblade
6 years, 3 months ago
It's always best to try and resolve things privately. But sometimes people do not want resolution, and will not let you just walk away and be done with it either. Eventually, you reach a point where you either escalate it further, or you just stay bent over and take it like a bitch.

Allan has had every every EVERY chance to just leave me the hell alone. And I've dealt with him whenever he pops up, and I've just tried to brush it off when he sends other people to try and get me to let him back in. When he was just harassing me, I just tried to deal with it. But he's been harassing >other< people over this, and I eventually got sick of it. So this journal was to try and let people know that Allan pounces on people he sees associated with me, and he's just trying to get to me through them.

When there's nothing you can do to stop someone from doing bullshit, that doesn't mean you just ignore them. If all you can do is to let people know what the person is doing, then you at least do that much.
KodaO
6 years, 3 months ago
Ok... I still don't know the whole story. What I do know about the situation though is extremely two-sided though and both sides are confusing as HELL. I don't really wanna delve into it too much though..
wolfstar124
6 years, 1 month ago
>says he's not publicly slandering someone

>goes on to say he has mental problems

>slanders him in comments instead

>no screenshots offered saying it ACTUALLY happened
Wolfblade
6 years, 1 month ago
I said I am not out to publicly slander him. As in, that is not the reason I posted this journal. I didn't post it because I wanted to publicly slander him. He has harassed me and many others countless times, and I have tried everything I could think of to convince him to Just Leave Me The Fuck Alone. That's it, I just want him to stop trying to contact me and to stop manipulating other people into having THEM try to get me to contact him again. How hard is that to understand? But he doesn't understand it. Because he has mental problems.

And that is not slander. It's not an insult. I am not calling him retarded to be mean or talk down about him, when I say he has a mental handicap, that is because HE HAS A MENTAL HANDICAP. He is legitimately and medically mentally handicapped. He had been placed in his previous job (at the time I knew him) by an agency that places people with mental disabilities. Someone being "retarded" has an actual legitimate clinical meaning besides the general insulting derisive usage of the word. If someone is missing a leg, and you say "that guy's missing a leg," that's not slander or being insulting or doing something wrong.

When someone stalks you, harasses you, and generally causes problems for you and anyone he sees associating with you, guess what? It's not you harassing them back to just speak of what they've actually done. It is not somehow wronging someone to simply speak of THEIR choices and actions. He will not or can not understand to just leave me the hell alone and stop harassing others to pester me, so the only option for me to try and reduce his ability to do this is to let others know what he has done. Would you consider it wrong for a person to try and spread awareness of a con man? Of a thief? Is it bad to try and let people know that a person has made a consistent and repeated history of doing certain shit? No. It fucking isn't.

Screenshots? If you think I'm a liar, you could dismiss any screenshots or logs as being faked. I don't need to prove anything or convince anyone. If I >had< posted all the screenshots and logs that I have, well THEN anyone wanting to wag their finger at me for slandering him would just say it was wrong of me to post private conversations and shit. I'm not lying, but I don't care whether you believe me or not. People will either see for themselves, or they won't.

What reason do I have to lie? What do I gain from making this kind of thing up? Who the fuck is LupineAssassin to me, if he >isn't< the person I have described him to be? Why in the shit would I have any cause to waste my time trying to make poor innocent Allan look bad if none of this was true?

Think whatever you want, dude.
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