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misterpickleman

Criticisms vs. Insults

I recently read something about what I draw that was actually a bit hurtful.

I'm not talking about someone being critical of what I draw or my particular style. People have different tastes and I can appreciate that. They can say they don't like this or that about what I draw and I have no problem with it. Even if it isn't constructive, that's fine! Hell, I even accept that there is a large majority of the fandom that would outright condemn what I draw. (Which is why I try to stay over here, out of the way.)

But what I read seemed like a personal attack. To be honest, what I read filled me with shame because it sounded like something I, myself, would have written about artists in the past. People who I thought were beyond reproach. Somehow, this feeling would turn into some kind of imagined slight against myself and I would lash out. Young, dumb, frustrated that I couldn't do what they were doing...

I don't know why this person said what they did, but I would like to extend an olive branch here. If I have offended you or crossed you in any way, please PM me and let me know what I did! I've really tried to be interactive and approachable. I read every comment and message sent to me. If you feel I've snubbed you or dismissed something you've said, I assure you it was not out of spite! Very likely, I just didn't have an appropriate response.
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Added: 6 years, 2 months ago
 
kitsunelegend
6 years, 2 months ago
I'm offended that you're an otter! You should have been a fox! How dare you! Rabble rabble! D=<

Foxes rule! Otters drool! (well, foxes drool too, especially when they have a dick jammed down their throat, but thats besides the point! =P )

Foxes for world domination! >=D






*disclaimer. This is in jest. I'm not actually offended. You're otter derp is cute as balls. Thank you. =3






Foxes still rule though ;D
misterpickleman
6 years, 2 months ago
I appreciate your stance on foxes, wrong as it may be. ;)
Gendasi
6 years, 2 months ago
Some people are just looking to be offended, Pickles. The way I see it is that if they're unable to suck it up and either block the submissions that offend their delicate sensibilities or avoid the people or instances that rub them the wrong way, they're the ones with a problem. I don't like scat so I blocked that as a keyword. Done deal. I don't like an artist's style so I don't watch them. I don't like the drama that another artist is always stirring up so I avoid anything they type.

Easy peasy. Too bad some people just can't get over themselves long enough to realize that this is the internet and you don't HAVE to interact with people here. Or, worse, they're just being trolls because they like starting trouble. I don't find them worth the effort but I commend your attempt to open lines of civil communication. I just don't see it fixing much.

However, you HAVE slighted me personally and I'm bringing this out in the open for transparency! You've been too nice. I prefer my online interactions to be abusive and belittling when directed at myself. You have, on at least one occasion, referred to me as a "chill guy." How dare you be nice to me and so many others? I demand verbal abuse! ;3
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
You're right! You DO deserve some verbal punishment! I've let your attitude slide for FAR too long!

*ahem*

You... Have... Pretty eyes!

Yeah! How's THAT feel?? Bet you're feeling KINDA sheepish now, ain'tcha?
Gendasi
6 years, 1 month ago
I KNEW that video camera in the corner looked suspicious!

Just, please, don't tell everyone about the time I sneezed and wiped my hands on the dog! I'll do anything!

(Attempted to find the relevant video for context. Gave up and made a sandwich.)
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
I hope you washed your hands BEFORE you made that sandwich!
curtainshowers
6 years, 2 months ago
Sorry to hear that. I wouldn't worry too much about it. People can go off for reasons that really aren't your fault; it's just easy to yell at someone online where you never have to meet them face to face.
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
It is and I hate being the hypocrite for doing just that... And I try to have this, "whatever" attitude when it comes to people's opinions. It just kinda hurt being directed at ME and not my art or story...
Klorsis
6 years, 2 months ago
Sometimes that's just the way it is.  Even if you work it out with this person eventually there's going to be someone who just wants to try to offend because that is what makes them happy.  If someone is going to hate you because your working hard to improve or do something you enjoy, then you're probably doing it right.  It really bites, but the truth is that there is a group of haters behind every successful adventure.  You shouldn't totally ignore them as they sometimes do provide some value even if it's not constructive.

But hey, here's some words you can enjoy!  Your comic is interesting to me so far, your art is improving, and I like your mindset you've been displaying here.  I really look forward to see what's coming!
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
I'm reminded of a quote that I can't recall exactly, but it was something to the tune of, "Only a fool tries to please everyone but himself." I try really hard to make everyone else happy. Maybe I should stop trying so hard and just let it what happens happen.
KiraRedpaw
6 years, 2 months ago
I just say kudos to you for drawing what you want to draw and always trying to get better. Please continue drawing!
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
I plan to. :) Thanks!
xephion
6 years, 2 months ago
dont over think it some people are just mean that person may not even read this or maybe it will but at the end it doesnt matter because you must accept all kind of insults and ignored them thats how you let yourself at peace they never really matter
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
I don't like to think people are being inherently mean... Maybe just frustrated themselves and lashing out because that's the way they cope...
caldaq
6 years, 2 months ago
The saying ,you cannot please everyone all of the time comes to mind as well as i'd bet they were trolling you out of jelosy of your success. Y'all do the best you can and I see you improving and getting faster with your work. The streaming art gave you good feedback in real time. "hugs" take what they said with either a grain of salt or A spoonful of sugar and move on the best way you can.
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
Salt AND sugar? Doesn't sound too tasty...

Unless it's sea salted caramel! Then yes, please! :D
Shippo
6 years, 2 months ago
Don't listen to those negative Nancy Pantsies. If something offends them they can just block the offending subtext of the matter. Some people are just rude and like to hurt others. Ive had my fair share of haters and offensive comments some of em being VERY vile. I have not taken any offense from them because on here they are just words. *Hugs* So just ignore those rude people.
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
If they're commenting that way just to be a troll, then yes, they deserve to be ignored. But if they're genuinely upset, then ignoring is only going to make the rift larger. :/
gnarlybark
6 years, 2 months ago
people nowadays are offended by EVERYTHING~ ignore it. dont even give it a single iota of a thought and keep doin what you love

ive seen people get offended over the colors of characters, these people would have not survived school back in the 90s. if you were like this in the 90s you got your ass beat
Balmung
6 years, 2 months ago
I don't think anything changed much. People don't beat other people's asses just because. If somebody gets angry enough to beat somebody, that means that they got offended.

A person who was actually self-confident and had thick skin would feel no need to beat anybody.
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
I try to have a thick skin. Like I mentioned, I don't mind criticism. Even HARSH criticism. But personal attacks are uncalled for if there's a genuine issue...
graymuzzle
6 years, 2 months ago
Sadly, being in the public domain results in this sort of thing. For better or worse, people seem to think you're fair game.
Recently, I got a PM on another site that a VLOG was reviewing "Tina's story". Needless to say, they were not impressed, although at least they noticed it, and found it review worthy.
What was more disturbing was that it contained a number of attempts at humor, largely at my expenses, involving accusations of racism, sexism, and such, as well as garden variety bad writing.
I guess what bothered me the most was the idea that these people presumed to know me when they didn't, and pulled a bunch of assumptions out of thin air.
I actually let the annoyance pass, and sent a brief, polite response back. To my surprise, I got a nice note, an apology, and an invite for a live appearance on the show.
All's well that ends well, but the original post was pretty upsetting.
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
I love Tina's Story!

Making accusations like that as part of a review is downright scumbag levels of rude. Any actual, LEGIT review should reach out to the author FIRST before making any claims...
graymuzzle
6 years, 1 month ago
" misterpickleman wrote:
I love Tina's Story!

Making accusations like that as part of a review is downright scumbag levels of rude. Any actual, LEGIT review should reach out to the author FIRST before making any claims...

Thanks! It's people like you for whom I write Tina's story anyway.
graymuzzle
6 years, 2 months ago
BTW, I never critique people without a specific invitation. I think that's impolite, and is an invitation to hurt feelings.
Balmung
6 years, 2 months ago
In a large enough group of people, you're always going to find somebody who is a complete jerk.

Don't take the criticism too seriously, either. Some people are not honest about their criticism and just look for things that hurt.
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
Poe's Law makes it hard to tell when someone's being genuine, though. :/
JackDesert
6 years, 2 months ago
I'm hard to offend through art.   If I find something I that does offend me I tend to just 'nope nope nope' the hell out of there.
I rather like most of your art and what I'm not fond of doesn't bother me.
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
I'm the same way. I even blacklist tags that I would otherwise NOPE right out of... Some people are just looking to stir up stuff without putting any effort into communicating.
Neversoft
6 years, 2 months ago
Dude! fuck them! your awesome! ^w^ <3
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
But... But I don't WANNA fuck them! :(

;)
Neversoft
6 years, 1 month ago
I know! I know, I didn’t mean it like that XD lol
JackDesert
6 years, 1 month ago
" Neversoft wrote:
I know! I know, I didn’t mean it like that XD lol

More of forcing them to sit on a cactus?
Dontamure
6 years, 2 months ago
....odd way to ask for a date, eh?.....X3


♥~♬~♪~♫~❤ (/^ᴥ^\)🎶
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
inorite? Taking negging to a whole new level!
MillyTiger
6 years, 2 months ago
I'm sorry someone said something to hurt you.... plz don't be hurt pickleman, we all love you and our love for you should easily out weigh one persons negativity.... Well, I'd hope at least~ :c

-hugs the smol ott-
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
"Hurt" is a bit strong... I was upset, but it wasn't going to make me change anything.

But I'll take the hugs anyway!

TOO LATE TO GIVE THEM BACK NOW!
justnow2017
6 years, 2 months ago
Your good in my eyes sunbro
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
420 PRAISE IT!
Silverdrag0n
6 years, 2 months ago
I don't know, but don't take things people say in negative way to much to you heart they may be only jealous about what you have achieved, I think you do a fine job mate ;)
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
Thank you. :) I appreciate that.
JimmyRenard
6 years, 2 months ago
If YOU like drawing what you draw, then never stop!

Some peoples will find that "offensive" but its just a story. its not something that happen or at lest that you are aware of.

Anyway I'm just saying that what's important is that you love what you do, don't don't doing what you like to do!

I don't know if its the only story you have or not, but don't stop because of some critics. There will always be peoples who don't like it and the can get lost!!!
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
I know. I don't plan to stop just because I can't please a few people. I learned quite a while ago that I just need to please ME. If others like it, cool! If not, meh...
JimmyRenard
6 years, 1 month ago
That's they way to do it :)

Always do what you like, what ever it is.

Donacutie
6 years, 2 months ago
i loves your arts and cant waits to see more <3<3<3  keep doins what u do
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
I will! ^_^
BrokenPupper
6 years, 2 months ago
Dunno about the details but from what I've see you are one of the very few in this site with good intentions in mind so I dunno if it's just one guy then don't worry too much about it.
misterpickleman
6 years, 1 month ago
I try to stay positive. Even if I do post some things that seem to be the opposite. Everyone vents and not everything said out of anger or frustration is intentionally mean.
kamimatsu
5 years, 8 months ago
i'd like to apologize if i sounded rude earlier
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