You know the type, the kind that instantly go for a block when someone ACTUALLY disproves what they say, presenting actual evidence to back up their claims instead of doing what a human would naturaly do and argue in a civil way. Seems IB is still full of these people
Er...what happened? o.o I mean, I tend not to socialise much on IB or anywhere anymore thanks to FA burning me multiple times...but that seems more of an FA antic than IB.
Er...what happened? o.o I mean, I tend not to socialise much on IB or anywhere anymore thanks to FA
's journal about paywalls. Someone was saying "oh paywall is a slur and propaganda, it was invented by people who want to make artists feel like shit for daring to ask money for their art" ETC and i calmly said the person was wrong, it was a term invented by newspapers who to this day still sue it on their websites and that before they start spewing venom at people they should look up what a word means and where it comes from. For my efforts i got called a "spazzy lil cunt" and got blocked
You'd think so but no, it happens here A LOT more than you'd think. The latest case was just now on
You're probably a kid, so I understand your inflated sense of ego, since I used to be just like you.
unstable and ranting = spazzy rude, obnoxious, disrespectful, and pretentious = little cunt
So yes, you're a spazzy little cunt. You're also so desperate to keep this argument going that you're bothering your watchers with the negativity. That's incredibly petty and not even remotely "calm".
I blocked you because, due to your having neither respect nor knowledge, you're not worth my time; replying to your journal is an extra courtesy that I don't really owe you. If this blocking during arguments is happening to you repeatedly, as you've implied, that is only further evidence that you're the one at fault, rather than some obtuse conspiracy where everyone but you is the immature and passive-aggressive one.
Grow up, you spazzy little cunt.
You're probably a kid, so I understand your inflated sense of ego, since I used to be just like you.
"You're probably a kid" - I am not, i'm...over 20 let's just leave it at that "so I understand your inflated sense of ego"- There is NO ego inflation whatsoever going on here. Well...maybe from you "unstable and ranting = spazzy"- Spazzy=an adjective used to describe someone who spazzes often. Meaning, they are hyper a lot and have these fits of uncontrollable excitement or nervousness. None of this can be used to describe me right now as i am as calm as a gentle breeze "rude, obnoxious, disrespectful, and pretentious = little cunt"- Again none of these can be used to describe me. I was not respectfulness, i was not rude and i was not obnoxious "I blocked you because, due to your having neither respect nor knowledge, you're not worth my time; " - No, you blocked me because i countered your argument with actual facts and you couldn't come up with a good or even decent counter argument "replying to your journal is an extra courtesy that I don't really owe you"- No, replying to my journal is you continuing the argument "If this blocking during arguments is happening to you repeatedly, as you've implied, that is only further evidence that you're the one at fault, "- OR its evidence that people don't even bother using their heads to come up with good counter arguments and supplying evidence to back up their claims and instead take the easy route. Though i have to say you're the first one who has a need to explain himself, thus continuing the argument instead of letting it die. "Grow up, you spazzy little cunt."- Righ, because this is a super mature attitude from you
In conclusion...learn some manners, it will do you good for future interactions with people. Oh also notice how i haven't blocked or insulted you, thus giving you the chance to defend your point. THAT is a courtesy i certainly don't owe you, yet am giving it to you
Let's take this point by point shall we? "You're probably a kid" - I am not, i'm...over 20 let's ju
No, i left you unblocked so that you can defend your point of view, that's how a debate works. Also funny how you chose to focus on THAT specific point while ignoring everything else i've said in the comment. Meaning that you have no interest in defending your point of view OR you have no arguments to defend it with.
"I'm not "defending" any point because there is no argument with you to defend." You mean to say you have no arguments to defend your point right? Then again i'm not surprised, all you do is throw around insults and spread hate and don't even bother to look up the root of a single word. Typical
No, i left you unblocked so that you can defend your point of view, that's how a debate works. Also
Oh and for all your talk of "respect" note that i have not insulted you or demeaned you in any way, shape or form, yet you have done nothing but throw insults my way
Oh and for all your talk of "respect" note that i have not insulted you or demeaned you in any way,
You and me BOTH. I've been blocked by people with him i have never had even a single moment of interaction with. I can only speculate why i've been blocked by these people though and it's not for very...good reasons, let's just put it like that
You and me BOTH. I've been blocked by people with him i have never had even a single moment of inter
I believe there are some who block anyone who posts stuff they don't like...examples being; cub porn, gore and death, political views they don't like, things that touch on religious issues, and so on.
The was even an artist who posted a journal a while back trying to urge everyone to block / unwatch anyone who depicts the death of a character in their artwork...That would effect almost half of the artists on this site.
I believe there are some who block anyone who posts stuff they don't like...examples being; cub porn
I actually know someone who blocks entire artists if they post even a SINGLE piece of MLP art but here's the thing, i BARELY post any art whatsoever here since the only art i have is the art that my friends decide to gift me with. I have, however, in the past been...shall we say involved in highly political debates in journals and i think that's why some people have blocked me, even though i have had no interaction with them
I actually know someone who blocks entire artists if they post even a SINGLE piece of MLP art but he
Oh and I just about forgot...That artist I was talking about even went as far as to urge everyone to also block / unwatch anyone who had given a favorite on artwork posted by anyone else that depicted death.
Oh and I just about forgot...That artist I was talking about even went as far as to urge everyone to
some people block people who never spoke to you like ever. Happened to me and a few friends but prolly because someone said a rumor or saw something happen between you and someone else and choose a side without knowing the whole story >_>
some people block people who never spoke to you like ever. Happened to me and a few friends but prol
Ooooh. ok. I went and had a look at the journal in question. That...blew out of proportion pretty fast o.o I've seen this particular argument of terminology and semantics before. Seems pretty rampant right now. I try not to get involved in it, honestly. I understand debate is healthy and can be conducive for civil discourse, but I've also seen it devolve so quickly into insults and general mudslinging it never turns into such. o.o
Ooooh. ok. I went and had a look at the journal in question. That...blew out of proportion pretty fa
I try my BEST not to throw insults and always back up my arguments with researched facts. Shame not everyone does the same. And yeah it's true that some people use "paywall" as a way to make artists look greedy but that's not what the word means nor should an artist feel bad for "paywalling" their word
I try my BEST not to throw insults and always back up my arguments with researched facts. Shame not
The way I see it? The word itself is often just tossed around to start arguments, even when that's not the initial purpose. I've seen instances of things like patreon used right, and when it is actually used in ways that the people who spit out the word left and right use it. In the end? I guess it all boils down to personal perspective. I say live and let live, honestly.
The way I see it? The word itself is often just tossed around to start arguments, even when that's n
I have zero issues with the word or artists using that business model myself. I know not everyone's going to like it but hey, artists need to live too and buy supplies and stuff. It just...irks me when i see people spewing so much venom without even doing a little research. I mean Google exists for a reason guys
I have zero issues with the word or artists using that business model myself. I know not everyone's
That's pretty much how I see it. However, if people are gonna spit venom, let 'em, in my book. You can just sidestep around the puddles of it without giving them a target to spit more at. I tend to keep myself away from this kind of thing normally, but, I dunno, it this time I just felt like poking my head in.
That's pretty much how I see it. However, if people are gonna spit venom, let 'em, in my book. You c
I suppose there's nothin wrong with that, honestly. Just learning when to walk away is a good skill though, no need to drag yourself down just to prove a point ^.^
I suppose there's nothin wrong with that, honestly. Just learning when to walk away is a good skill
People usually tend to block as soon you're stating anything negative about something and feel targeted in the process. You know that's the case when they quit with "I didn't read anything and I will delete next reply lol", basically, you hert his fellings and knew he couldn't respond.
What those artists don't seem to understand is InkBunny is a platform to show your art, but people have been used the place as an ad platform instead. I'm personally getting fucking tired to see artist I'm used to watch, showing their work, and later on having some post titled "I'M ON PATREON" then every next upload is some censored pictured telling you to buy a subscription so you can see their stuff now. People are expecting art, not some annoying ads that treat the viewerbase like wallets to be sucked on.
What artists also fail to realize is, it's the fucking Internet. Of course people are expecting stuff for free because of the competitive environment. 90% of the people give access to their art for free, so when they see the rest of the artist block their stuff behind a paywall of course some of them are not going to like it. That would be like, some YouTuber guy trying to sell his videos for one dollar each to be seen. Of course people will flip out, they expect the content to be seen for free.
As much those paywalling artists love to call us entitled and "You just want free art" people, it's quite funny to see how pretty much all of them are entitled to their merchandises having characters/series they don't own and making money from that, which is pretty much illegal by nature. I also love how they try to portray that as parodies when it's clearly not the case - A pair of tits on a character isn't parody material like, at all. Of course the only time they care about copyrights is when their art gets leaked or redistributed, but not when they're taking advantage of other's intellectual properties, oh no this is completely fine lol parody fair use transformative
People usually tend to block as soon you're stating anything negative about something and feel targe
To be fair, sexualizing a character does count as transformative work and thus is under fair use. if that wasn't the case then Rule 34 wouldn't be a thing period. Now what people need to realize is that artists make a living off their art, they are within their right to ask for money for the stuff they draw. Although you do bring up a fair point when you say "t's quite funny to see how pretty much of them are entitled to their merchandises having characters/series they don't own and making money from that", most of the art they sell on Patreon either includes their own characters or someone else's character who commissioned the artist to draw the pic in question. And i's not like bbmbbf hard paywalls his work, no he soft paywalls it, meaning that he provides free art and has some exclusive to Patreon and even those sooner or later he publishes for free. So i have no issues with artists paywalling their art, they have to make a living after all. And hey, it's not like bbmbbf is the norm when it comes to paywalled art, the norm of paywalled art isn't even rule 34 stuff. I fully agree with you on the censored art route though. To my knowledge only one artist here did it and i'm not even sure if they still do it or not. Others have adds for Patreon sure but they use it mostly as a sort of early access to the art, very few actually paywall it
To be fair, sexualizing a character does count as transformative work and thus is under fair use. if
Most of those Paytreon people release the content for free, but usually scaled down as if we're still using Windows 95, content has a ton of obnoxious watermarks on it, all this once we waited a Disney Land like waiting line for some months, so I still get the feeling that we're getting treated like shit from those people.
Actually you are half-right here. Some art seems to look transformative looking but I tend to argue how adding a pair of tits would be transformative. Adding a dick and making a feral character anthro doesn't give any new meaning to the character at all, as it is to draw a mustache on the Mona Lisa and writing some text saying that she's now a male.
Even if the art is transformative, it still doesn't make the art legal. Transformative doesn't mean "green light, you're all good", it's been a sort of "fifth" factor to Fair Us, it isn't a free pass. Actually transformative is pretty much a synonym for parody, and again, making a character explicit isn't parody material at all.
They're pretty much failing 3 of the 4 Fair Use factors most of the time (For profit - It's tangible, well, it is as data and is being distributed - Design/World/Name is pretty much +80% of the time. You can even argue that drawing obscene stuff of their characters can have a negative impact on their market. They clearly couldn't stand a chance in a court of law.
Even then it's not because it's illegal that I don't like people doing that but because it's simply plain wrong for me to make money from intellectual property you don't own, especially when they then get so overprotective of their possession afterwards
Most of those Paytreon people release the content for free, but usually scaled down as if we're stil
Oh completely forgot about Rule34. It's more of a mix of don't care/can't really do anything here. They don't exactly care because the stuff is, well on rule34 at least, not being sold or merchandised. Also I may be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure the servers are not in the US, so they really can't do anything legally, and for them it would be seen as a waste of time. Exception is for tag changes like overwatch and pokemon. This is not because they wanted the stuff taken down but because they don't want the images being showed when people would search on Google, so they complied after being threatened with trademark infringements, I think (can't see why they would have listened to them if they didn't get threatened).
Fanart by nature is pretty much illegal too, but any reasonable IP owners really don't care about that and are just fine about it. Even Pokemon is fine with fanart, as their legal page clearly mentions that fanart is authorized, as long it is not done for commercial purposes. Oops
Oh completely forgot about Rule34. It's more of a mix of don't care/can't really do anything here. T
I'm thoroughly convinced that the kind of person who blocks people like that will not listen to anything you say. The most you can really do is mock them and encourage others to mock them as well.
HUMONGOUS WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY POINTING AT YOUR BODY PARTS REEEEEEEEEE I'm thoroughly convin
