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Wolfblade

Oy.

SOPA/PIPA are bad, hopefully everybody gets this by now. ACTA's potentially worse with the provisions over generic medicines.

Look it up for yourself. Read it, then read the assessments made by >actual< career professionals in the fields of the related laws.

http://i.imgur.com/mrCol.jpg

Regardless of how bad you feel this or that particular anti-piracy legislation to be, or which one is worse, or if you think people are over-reacting to them in general (if you don't think ANY of these are anything to worry about, you're an idiot, sorry), this is still something to consider. A visible push for this, followed by a noticeable distinct drop in their profits for a full month, would be helpful in at least discouraging any of this >type< of legislation.

I hate the ignorant juvenile entitlement attitude that tries to justify piracy. But existing copyright laws ARE sufficient to deal with the bulk of piracy. Megaupload made that clear. The one-day internet blackout got enough notice for congress members to see they wouldn't be able to pass this crap unnoticed. But to really get rid of this kind of crap, the MPAA has to be given a reason for them to want to back off on trying to control the internet. Money's all that talks to them.

Is a single month really that long to go without movies? God Forbid you miss the fucking Tim & Eric movie, or the remake of Jump Street. 9_9 DVDs will still be there to pick up later, too. Keep buying music from individuals though - more and more artists manage their own itunes sales, so shift your money in their direction.

Alternatively, consider it a financial experiment - give yourself a more tangible awareness of exactly how much money you burn on this stuff in a month, and maybe see if there's better places for that money to be going, like bills or savings.

Remember: this is NOT about telling actual creators that they can't get paid for their work, or giving the finger to IP rights in general. The current IP laws are about as fair as can be expected while maintaining a balance between the concerns of producers and consumers. This is about hurting the wallets of the big industry to back off on trying to restrict EVERYBODY'S rights rather than just focus on the actual distributing pirates that are the problem. If people stop buying stuff for just a month, but just go and pirate it instead, it'll only give them MORE ammo to overblown claims of piracy needing excessive response. Don't buy it, don't download it either. Sales AND downloads need to take a big hit for the right message to get across.

Now back to lurking for me.
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Tae
Tae
6 years, 6 months ago
WHY MUST THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT RUINED EVERYTHING WE LOVE!!! >_<
MooseJam
6 years, 6 months ago
It's the money behind the government that's ruining everything.  
PeachClover
6 years, 6 months ago
Because that is the definition of government.
FlynnRausch
6 years, 6 months ago
Spreading the word on Black March. It's a good idea. If it gets enough momentum, it might actually gain some notice.
KeeperSeen
6 years, 6 months ago
way ahead of you on this.
RoareyRaccoon
6 years, 6 months ago
I love piracy, I love being able to get hold of things I wouldn't normally be able to get and to peruse things freely so I can see what I really love and then go out and buy it XP.
Wolfblade
6 years, 6 months ago
The key point being that you do buy it when you see something you really like.
PeachClover
6 years, 6 months ago
Buying out of love for the thing is better than buying out of gambling to see if you like it, but hollywood knows that it's pumping out SHIT so instead of trying to please the connoisseurs of the arts they are trying to bushwhack the ignorant masses; that is why they are trying so hard to stop "pirates" it's because most of the pirates don't want to be wallet-raped.  According to their definition of pirate, Netflix and Redbox are the enemy because they lower sales by warning the masses against buying horrible movies!
Wolfblade
6 years, 6 months ago
This is not a realistic perspective of the situation.

You have to understand the concept of "Lowest Common Denominator." Hollywood is pumping out shit because that's what sells the most. Look at the money made by the Transformers movies. Mindless, empty, cool-looking-shit-blows-up is what the majority of people want. The majority of consumers are idiots. Stupid people are incapable of grasping the subtleties of finer art that make it more appealing to those of greater intelligence and comprehension. Another example would be the Twilight crap. It's garbage, but it >sells.<

They're not >trying< to bushwhack people. They're acknowledging what the ignorant masses >want< and then catering to that. They don't have to pull anything to trick the idiots into buying their shit, it's the fact that the masses are ignorant idiots that makes them CHOOSE the mindless garbage over the occasional interesting gem, and so Hollywood just follows where the money is at.

Same with video games. There is simply a larger market for mindless bald-space-marine-shoots-stuff games, so that's what gets made the most. So long as stupid people insist on throwing their money on garbage, the people whose >job< is to make as much money for their company as they can will continue to provide the entertainment that the stupid masses want.

It's not evil content producers >tricking< or >deceiving< people into liking garbage. The ignorant masses WANT crap, and that's what they're given. The answer is not to just steal everything, the answer is to stop using/watching/playing the mindless crap AT ALL, and spend your money to support better stuff.

It is a product of the entitlement generation to perceive the situation as "gambling to see if you like it." The fact that you - and so many others - can even see it that way is part of the core problem.

In that sense, >any< purchase of >anything< that you have not already purchased before is gambling. You need a vaccuum cleaner, well, you buy one that seems to be what you need - what if you don't like it later? That's why you do your research and try to make the most educated purchase you can. Sometimes you will buy things you regret purchasing. That's just a fact of life. You weren't >conned< or >cheated< unless the thing specifically marketed itself as something it was not. In matters of subjective opinion, you can't say "well, the movie advertised that it was good, but it was actually bad" because good/bad in that sense is a matter of taste. Some people will like it, some people won't.

When the producers of media entertainment are simply offering their product at a price, the consumers choice is to either pay that price or not pay it - and not get to see that media. The people making movies and games are not evil villains just because they're charging more than you'd like to pay, or because they make stuff you don't enjoy. It doesn't justify just taking what you want.

They're only villains when they overstep the bounds of protecting their property with measures like these censorship legislations. When they're no longer simply protecting their rights, but infringing upon others' rights. The people in the wrong are the ones who are infringing upon the rights of others. USUALLY, that is the pirates. It doesn't matter how much they insist it's harmless, they are breaking the law and infringing upon the rights of the people who create this stuff to decide how and with whom they want to share what they made.

BOTH sides of the piracy vs hollywood argument are in the wrong in different ways for different points. It's all of us in the middle that are getting fucked by it, and that will continue so long as people can't understand that it's not one side right, the other side wrong. In MOST points in the argument, the media Industry IS in the right, and piracy is in the wrong. But people need to understand that even when the media industry IS in the wrong, that doesn't mean that the pirates are in the right.
PeachClover
6 years, 6 months ago
Your point is acceptable, but how do you explain the act of rental movies not being leased until 30 days after coming on market except with blatant greed?

If a person loves a movie, really loves it, then they will buy it out of pride, or at least that is what I do, but that decision is based on having seen the movie in theaters, which has become IMO unreasonably expensive, or renting the movie which the people in hollywood have done what they can to stop, and I cannot see any reason beyond frustrating the consumer that this rental hold exists, because to my understanding, the digital releases of films no long require seasons to transfer film to disc, but less than a month to make the disc format and, although I have not clocked this, probably less than a month for each distribution plant to fabricate their areas' quota.

Hop debuted April 1, 2011 and some time back it was advertised as being available on disc October 2011, but now it is set for March 23 of this year.  Tell me, what can explain a six and then thirteen month delay?  For all I can see, this delay is put into place only to make more people see the movie in theaters for the outrageous price for gambling's sake, and two, when it finally does come out to make those who want to see it and didn't get to in theaters frustrated enough to buy it instead of waiting another month for the rental.

I do not consider this an honorable business model.  If the movie companies were placating the ignorant masses, then they would not have to bother with these delays because the IMs would buy the movies at theater and disc without thinking about it.  

The smart person even sees that after just a few months the price of the disc falls to something more reasonable, but why?  Because hype was the only thing holding said movie at such a high price tag.  Considering that this happens even faster in the video game market, where prices from $60 fall to $19 in less than a year on systems which may not even be possible to pirate at this time, just proves my point.

It seems to me that movie companies intent to make their initial investment back with the theaters, and make even more money by selling discs, but why?  Exactly how much money do people and/or businesses need to stop acting so hateful toward everyone else?  I have recently heard that once a person reaches 20 million, they will never in their life be able to spend that money by themselves.  Maybe that is true maybe it isn't, but it is disgusting to see any person or company with more than that amount acting like they have to defend every penny as if they were starving.

It is because of that reason that I cannot see movie companies as anything more than greedy bastards, and as such I have implemented personal rules to counteract their tomfoolery, such as only buying movies once they have became available to rent, and no matter how much I like the idea of it, never seeing more than three movies in theaters in a year for any of which must be in 3D to better balance the high price tag.
Wolfblade
6 years, 6 months ago
"how do you explain the act of rental movies not being leased until 30 days after coming on market except with blatant greed?"

First off, they made the movie, it's their choice. Their reasons are irrelevant. You don't get to tell them what they can and can't do with their property just because you agree or disagree with their reasons. If I create a portfolio of images I wish to sell, and I offer it to users of one site, but not to other sites until after a set time, whatever my reasons are don't matter. Whether it's okay for me to do it or not is not decided by what you or anybody else thinks of my reasons. The fact that people think by default that THEY have to be satisfied that something is acceptable before they grant someone else a right that is already theirs - like you're doing here - is part of the whole "entitlement generation" thing I keep talking about.

Secondly, you cannot always dismiss financially motivated decisions as "blatant greed." I could release digital copies of my comic right now and make money off of them (and I may HAVE to do this since I'm unable to do commission work right now). I had decided to hold onto it so I could include it in a pre-order bonus disc, along with tons of other unposted sketches and fanart, to people who pre-order the next comic whenever I am able to actually make it. I think that including it as a free bonus will get more people interested in pre-ordering the comic, and in the long run, make me more money than if I just released it right now on its own - which is something I need in order to be ABLE to make the second comic. Is that just blatant greed? Should I be required by some unspoken code of ethics to always do whatever is most preferred by my customer base, regardless of what I want to do or what will best enable me to continue providing them with anything at all?

No, I fucking shouldn't. I do my best to make my audience happy >by choice,< but there is not, nor should there be, any valid reasoning that would >force< me to do anything with my work that I do not >choose< to do.

"If a person loves a movie, really loves it, then they will buy it out of pride, or at least that is what I do,"

Not everyone does that. Plenty of people just download it, and that's it.

"and I cannot see any reason beyond frustrating the consumer that this rental hold exists,"

So you think they do it for the primary intent of frustrating their consumers? They do it JUST to dick with you? That's idiotic. They do it to maximize the potential for profit off of the work they created. And there is NO valid criticism in that motivation unless they are actively and knowingly deceitful. So long as a producer is simply offering a product they created on their terms, you have the choice to accept those terms or not. Nothing gives you any right to dictate what they can and cannot set for those terms other than choosing not to accept them.

"Hop debuted April 1, 2011 and some time back it was advertised as being available on disc October 2011, but now it is set for March 23 of this year.  Tell me, what can explain a six and then thirteen month delay?"

Uhhh... really? You can't think of any reason an easter movie wouldn't be released at halloween? It's an easter movie, and october is nowhere near easter, but march is. Some movies - especially seasonal ones - will simply sell better if released at certain times of the year. That's why the "summer blockbusters" are released in summer. They time the release of movies in theaters AND home release, by when they think the movie will sell the best.

You CHOOSE to see them as evil, malicious, hateful and greedy villains, doing these things JUST to fuck with you. Because you're entitled. You see something you want, but you don't like what you have to do to get it, so you feel wronged. Cheated. So they must be cheating. I'm not saying this as a personal attack, I am stating why you have the skewed perception you do.
Wolfblade
6 years, 6 months ago
Additionally, no matter how much you villify the movie companies, no matter what you justify or do to try and cut down their profits, the people actually making these decisions won't be affected. Everybody who downloads movies as a point to "stick it to the man" or whatever, is only hurting other normal people like themselves.

That $10-$20 end price point difference that you feel to be unfairly overcharging you for whatever product it is that you think you should be getting cheaper trickles down to the difference between being able to buy a decent house or having to rent a crummy apartment for MULTITUDES of employees in that company.

It's the guys who put the stickers on the boxes, or watch the machine that prints the dvd case inserts, THOSE people that will be fired, putting their work onto others who work more and harder for less pay - THOSE are the only people who will ever be hurt or hindered by all the shit that piracy advocates try to justify by making the media industry out to be doing everything JUST to fuck with people.

YES there is a great deal that the media industry does wrong. And there's a lot that SHOULD be fought and opposed. But it's counterproductive and idiotic when people are focusing on the entitlement shit and justifying MORE wrong behavior.
LelandRoss
6 years, 6 months ago
I reposted this into a journal on FA, with you mentioned as the originator.
NonnyFox
6 years, 6 months ago
I haven't watched a movie in years. We also have another internet related bill to fight and it's authored by Lamar Smith, the same bastard that sponsored SOPA. It's called HR 1981. http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/snooping/?referri... I signed this petition earlier in the week and progress against that bill is already being made.

Mike,

Ha! We've got SOPA sponsor Lamar Smith on the ropes again.  He's cowering in the face of opposition to his snooping bill, which would require ISPs to store your credit card numbers and info about what sites you've visited for at least 18 months.

And the Capitol Hill press has picked up on the story:

NATIONAL JOURNAL: Demand Progress Going After Another Smith Bill

CNET: Anti-SOPA Forces Have ISP Snooping Bill In Their Crosshairs

Nearly 90,000 Demand Progress members have emailed their lawmakers in opposition to the bill this week. As CNET reports about our campaign:

Now Smith, a conservative Texas Republican, is being targeted a second time: for championing legislation that would require Internet service providers to keep track of their customers, in case police want to review those logs in the future. His bill is called H.R. 1981.

These bills are certainly no joke this is war. This video is another weapon we can use in it. Anthrocat of Gamers of Inkbunny shared the link to it with me in Steam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc
TrentSnow
6 years, 6 months ago
Ha! Should be called H.R. 1984.   o.o
NonnyFox
6 years, 6 months ago
Quite so.
Hotarudraconis
6 years, 6 months ago
Save up that money to buy slave streams...
hexxy
6 years, 6 months ago
And then there is PCIPA...
Mackdog
6 years, 6 months ago
To which there is a 99% chance it will pass regardless of this other bullshit because of it politicians don't want to seem like they support child pornography in any way, however, the bill takes a very "shotgun" approach by targeting everyone's privacy rights.
Hammytoy
6 years, 6 months ago
Well this not about protecting children at all, they don't give a fuck about pedophiles on the internet, they just want power.   Its so much like Mrs Lovejoy from the Simpsons "Wont someone Puhleeeeeze think of the children"  Children and patriotism are the two old standbys these types use to pass really stupid ideas.
Mackdog
6 years, 6 months ago
Ah, nice call there. True, it's all about power and the lining of their pockets, which is fill with so much crap they think is gold. How I see the situation, imagining if I was in their shoes...

"Rabble rabble rabble ECONOMY! Babble babble babble AMERICA! Bitchy bitch bitch TERRORISM! Blither blather blag THE CHILDREN!"

English translation: "Money money money money money money money money money pension."
Catwheezle
6 years, 6 months ago
The funny thing is, the MPAA is apparently paying *a dollar each* for signatures for petitions to support its cause.
And they still get fewer signatures.
Sakkano
6 years, 6 months ago
The problem with a "Black March" is that:

1.) It's supposed to be for ALL purchased media, both hard copies and downloaded materials. It's not just movies and TV show anthologies. It also includes games, books, and applications.

2.) Assuming implementation happens, people will then just buy all the material they want after March, still spending close to the same amount of money. It's akin to how fuel boycotts work.

3.) Assuming implementation goes beyond the fringe groups, you achievement would not do anything to hurt the media industries (as the people are going to be willing to pay higher prices the next month for MORE media to make up for what they missed or held back on), but rather injure the already fragile economies currently trying to recover. Black March  is a concoction by people who apparently have little understanding on economics.

So, all in all, my thought is, go ahead. Screw it up. Encourage other to screw up things. So then when you find yourself in the shitter because your economy tanked, you only have yourself to blame.

But I will agree that there are laws in place to help with piracy.  But I would also point out that those laws are largely disregarded and even misunderstood by the majority of the populous. I would think that rather than encouraging destructive behavior, the key is to educate people on copyright principles. For the most part, many people don't seem to think that if you house a stream of a recently released movie, that they are breaking the law, when they indeed are. After all, if the internet is regarded as public space or domain, then streaming a movie without the proper clearance, is a public production and therefore illegal.

Wolfblade
6 years, 6 months ago
1. The primary focus with most people should be on the stuff coming out of Hollywood. The MPAA, the movie and musice industries in general, are the biggest source of push for this kind of legislation. Personally I don't see as much being accomplished by cutting out video games as I don't think many game developers swing much political clout.

2. People who do skip a month won't all spend the same amount to catch back up. There will undoubtedly be some percentage that pass on something, and then hear from others who did buy it (or watch it at a friend's who didn't bother with the blackout), and no longer feel the need to buy it themselves. Or the extra money will likely be spent on more important things in the interim, and by the time the next month comes, there will be new stuff to spend on, and less interest in whatever they missed. Yes, there will undoubtedly be a surge of back-purchases of things that came out in March, but it won't be near as much as if everybody just delayed their purchases.

3. The point of it, regardless of whether it can actually hurt them or not, is just to show that people WILL respond if they are pushed enough. The single-day blackout of the internet DID get enough people aware and speaking against the blacklist bills to get those congresspeople to back down. Even if the bulk of what they lose in March just gets added to April, it will still be a clear signal (if enough people participate) that if they don't back down from these extremes, they will only continue to push more people to siding with the damn pirates.

People have trouble processing a conflict with more than two sides. The tendency is to see 'Media Industry vs Pirates' and side with one or the other. BOTH sides have gone way too far, and it's everyone in the middle getting fucked for it. People shouldn't take the pirates' side just because the Media Industry's >reaction< to piracy is excessive. The excessive degree that piracy has spread to IS too far, and the people who initially obtain and distribute the material do deserve severe fines and jail time for what they're doing. Sites like PirateBay and other torrent trackers that unquestionably knowingly encourage piracy do need to be taken down. Megaupload wasn't JUST because users were pirating, but apparently the owners/operators of it did just stop really doing anything about valid takedown requests. But when they're having ISP's go after individuals who are just downloading shit, that's excessive. The side of IP and copyright ownership already has appropriate legislation to protect their rights, and while it IS a problem that they have the extra expense of all the trouble of enforcing those laws, it's simply something they still have to do.

The answer to MOST, if not all of our present-day big social dillemas, is better education. So many of the world's problems are just the natural by-product of ignorance. I'm all in agreement there.
Kolo
6 years, 6 months ago
No offence, but you're like a month late catching up with the world's problems. Seriously, no offence intended at all.
Wolfblade
6 years, 6 months ago
No offense taken.

I have trouble dealing appropriately with my sense of burning injustice. When people do shit that is just plain stupid or wrong, I get angry. The more years go by, the stupider people get, and the more wrong happens just from sheer ignorance, and the less any of it has any remote justification, and thus, the angrier I get. SO, I try to avoid most news of this sort. I'm certain to be behind on many, many, issues, undoubtedly countless way more important than this. I try to focus on happier things, but it's hard to completely block this kind of insanity out.

When someone points me directly at something, and it's more directly relevant to me, that's when you'll see these journals pop out of me.
Kolo
6 years, 6 months ago
Try thinking up a master plan to murder those people. Cheers me up.

Makes me look like an insane sadistic maniac doesn't it?
CookieWusky
6 years, 6 months ago
OMG this is a load of bull shit.....i hope the internet wins....
GlennWulf
6 years, 6 months ago
I already have kid icarus uprising reserved and payed off.... how long does gamestop hold preorders? 1 week?
Wolfblade
6 years, 6 months ago
You've already paid for it, then, there's no sense not picking it up.
GlennWulf
6 years, 6 months ago
well gamestop doesn't record it as being sold/payed for until you pick it up.

at least that's what i was told >.>
Wolfblade
6 years, 6 months ago
Since you already paid, you shouldn't run the risk of them losing your game. Just pick it up when it releases. I don't think the video game industry is as much of a concern here as music and movies.
GlennWulf
6 years, 6 months ago
actually you'd be surprised how hard the industry tries. more and more games are including DRM beyond just the product code you put in upon instillation. The industry in general even wants to stop the sale of used games because they don't get any of the profits a store makes off of resale. This is why larger companies have started including stuff like the cat woman segment of batman that you can only access with a new copy of the game. There are even rumors flying around that the next 360 (x box 720?) isn't going to be able to play used games period.

granted the music industry is clearly what has the biggest pull, game industries would abuse the law just as badly. they already pull every trick out of their hat with what's already in effect.
Wolfblade
6 years, 6 months ago
The DRM stuff on games isn't something this is about. The point isn't to protest companies trying to protect their product from piracy, the point is to protest when they leave all rational argument for protection behind, and are outright attacking peoples' freedoms like with these censorship bills.

Last I heard, the reason people are saying you won't be able to buy used games on the next gen of consoles, is because they're talking about making all games download-only. Which I'd be fine with. The used game places like Gamestop are a ripoff anyway. The usual price difference between new and used is so pathetically small, I don't see why people bother buying a used copy, just pay the extra 3 bucks and get it new.
GlennWulf
6 years, 6 months ago
I was under the impression all of these protests were about stopping bills that gave un-fair piracy protection policies. I'm not saying DRM is unfair, but it's an example of piracy protection. And the point of all of these bills are to give MORE power to stop it.
Wolfblade
6 years, 6 months ago
No, the >claimed< point of all these bills is to fight piracy, but they're all insanely over-reaching and would actually be more about simply censoring and silencing vast portions of the internet, disabling what makes the damn thing worthwhile.

The point of the protests is NOT about stopping piracy protection, but about stopping the excessive measures that leave 'piracy protection' in the dust, and go too far into destroying personal rights and freedoms.

It's not about protesting DRM or other measures that are legitimately just hindering piracy. It's about protesting their attempts to control the entirety of the internet itself.
GlennWulf
6 years, 6 months ago
soooooo... exactly what I said
Wolfblade
6 years, 6 months ago
>_<

You appeared to be saying that the point of the bills was piracy protection, and the point of the protests were to protest drm and piracy protection.

I said that they only >claim< the point of the bills is piracy protection, but the >actual< purpose the bills serve is restricting freedoms and forcing censorship of the internet. It is that restriction and censorship that is the point of the protests of these bills.

Neither the bills nor the protests against them are >actually< about simple piracy prevention measures like DRM.

Did that make more sense this time? I'm sorry I apparently wasn't clearer earlier.
GlennWulf
6 years, 6 months ago
yeah I still disagree about that. I am NOT saying that it's about DRM, DRM and piracy protection are fine. I'm just saying everything I've read says the protests are about preventing internet censorship guised as lagit piracy protection. Which to me means prevent un-fair piracy protection. Our current laws are fair and strong enough....

And I'm gonna stop here cus the quote chain is already too long (XD) and I'm afraid we both might start sounding like a broken record. Sorry for misunderstanding anything x3
Wolfblade
6 years, 6 months ago
Okay yeah, we're on the same page, then. X3
PsyChuan
6 years, 6 months ago
Just a note; Piracy is born of a combination of laziness and Robin Hood syndrome. Entitlement rarely factors.
Wolfblade
6 years, 6 months ago
Entitlement is an enormous factor, and usually the biggest factor in every argument I've had with people trying to justify or support mass piracy.

They want something that does not belong to them, which someone else has created and decided on what they want to charge for it, and anything and everything that does not give them that something on >their< terms as to what is or is not 'fair' they perceive as a personal wrong against them. If someone is selling a dvd and pricing it at $X, and they do not personally feel it is worth $X, they feel that the seller is doing >something wrong< and thus they are justified in just taking it. Because ultimately, people these days feel entitled to their entertainment, and if it is not given to them on their own terms, they feel perfectly fine simply taking it.

It used to be that if something wasn't worth the asking price to you, then you simply did without it. People understood that they couldn't have everything they wanted to have. The generation raised on the internet doesn't have that concept. If it exists and they want it, then their perception of the natural order of things is that they should have it. That's entitlement.
PsyChuan
6 years, 6 months ago
Entitlement implies that the person who torrents feels the deserve to have this product, when actually they just want the product. Also, if someone wants something and they cannot afford/don't want to pay $x it for whatever reason, they still want the product, which is the reason for the torrent. A lot of people torrent stuff they can't find easily, whether that's iTunes, Steam, Amazon, whatever. Signing up for one site that has the item you want takes effort, and adds an unused account to the list (which will usually still send them emails for whatever reason.) Clicking once or twice in iTunes for near instant access to a song is less effort even than googling what you want to torrent, finding a good version, then downloading the .torrent file and waiting.

The solution to piracy is to simply make things readily accessible. More stuff on Steam and iTunes, rather than splitting it between Origin/Steam and iTunes/whatever has things that iTunes doesn't.

Piracy, like prostitution, can't be eliminated by legislation. It's a question of desire, and the phrase 'where there's a will, there's a way' applies here. The key is to either remove the will, or pander to peoples inherent laziness.
Wolfblade
6 years, 6 months ago
Sorry for not responding sooner, I'm way behind on responses lately.

Agreed that additional legislation won't stop piracy. The best course of action is to make it easier for people to get reasonably priced media legitimately than it is for them to find and download the mildly virus-risky pirated versions. Totally agree with you. Though I do believe the existing legislation SHOULD continue to be put to use to prosecute the people responsible for the initial distribution of the pirated copies, while prosecuting the end downloader is really just punishing their audience.

I want to clarify on why I feel Entitlement is a significant part of the piracy argument, but typing hurts, so I'll link to this journal where I went into the subject previously (if you're interested): https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1796038/ <- the two journals after this were also continuing that thread of debate.  
PsyChuan
6 years, 6 months ago
Okay yeah fair point, that comment was completely and utterly mindless.
Readasaur
6 years, 6 months ago
Hee hee, you're always so passionate!
I think the only times I really look at your journals are when you're trying to warn us about something, like y!gallery allowing furries to be posted again.
But this is no problem, I can hold off shopping for movies and music and going to the theater for a month.
Thanks for passing this along.
KevinSnowpaw
6 years, 6 months ago
im entirely Anti everything that has to do with cencering my internet! It's my god damned internet, get the hell off!

So you have my support. Been aware of this a long time and im fighting it every way I can short of actualy amrching through the streets with a sign. Though there will be a marching protest set up on the 11th i think.
ChipmunkClunk
6 years, 6 months ago
I'm always worried about things like this because the people who tend to bear the brunt of the loss are the guys at the bottom. I hope the message gets across, but I foresee the big guys up top staying cozy while record store clerks and grunts are cut to save money.

It's quite a dilemma for me. That said, I don't go see movies or buy music very often anyway.
AlexReynard
6 years, 6 months ago
I've heard people saying this won't work because people will just go ahead and buy everything in April, so it won't matter. While there is some truth to that, movies in theaters are a finite commodity. Opening weekends are a big damn thing, and a big enough drop in box office sales might propel the MPAA to fuck the fuck off. I think this black March thing has potential, and I'm willing to give it a try.

I do hope it gets supplemented by rewarding comapnies who don't act like dicks. If people gotta buy games, I've heard pretty much nothing but good about Valve and Steam.

I do watch a ton of movies, so going without new ones for a month may be hard, but for christ's sake, a protest that requires no effort isn't going to accomplish anything anyway.
Wolfblade
6 years, 6 months ago
I don't know how much connection there is between the MPAA and the gaming industry, or if there are any big game companies doing too much to push this sort of legislation (I would think game companies don't have the insane excess profits to swing much political clout). I also don't think pirated console games are nearly the prominent issue that simple audio/video media is. But I don't know enough to really have a firm position on that one.
AlexReynard
6 years, 6 months ago
>I don't know how much connection there is between the MPAA and the gaming industry, or if there are any big game companies doing too much to push this sort of legislation (I would think game companies don't have the insane excess profits to swing much political clout). I also don't think pirated console games are nearly the prominent issue that simple audio/video media is. But I don't know enough to really have a firm position on that one.

Good point, actually. Thinking about it, I can't see any reason video games should have to suffer along with the others. All the horrible shit I hear about is from the music and movie industries.

I'm wondering how it should apply to online retailers too. Amazon's huge, but I've always been impressed by their service.
Wolfblade
6 years, 6 months ago
Buying from Amazon still directs money their way, I imagine.
AlexReynard
6 years, 6 months ago
Yeah, I know... It kinda pisses me off, because I wanna buy some Skrillex and I don't know if there's a way to get the money directly to him.
skunktoy
6 years, 6 months ago
RuscoIstar
6 years, 6 months ago
There should be a list of companies out there that were directly responsible for this abomination. We should be targeting the whole Black March boycott to them.
AlexReynard
6 years, 6 months ago
Gracias. But as soon as I posted that, I realized I could probably just go to his website and he'd have a store there. And yep, he does.
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