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Absolutely! Everyone should calm down and just enjoy life x3

RokukeShiba

6 years, 7 months ago

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@ DjijeyHellfire

*enjoys you* :P

DjijeyHellfire

6 years, 7 months ago

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Oh my, can't say no to this! X3 *enjoys you too*

KevinSnowpaw

6 years, 7 months ago

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the right has Social Justice warriors? I thought that was more or less a hard core left thing becouse of all the futile ground for stuff to white knight over XD has that really some how infected the right? I thought they were all just a bunch of white nationalist nazis uncle toms and women with deeply internalized mysonginy!

SJW's regardless of affiliation are just.... just aweful XD

RokukeShiba

6 years, 7 months ago

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They cry about how mean the left is blah blah blah XD

It's funny.

LordChaos

6 years, 7 months ago

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I'm offended that your offended.

RokukeShiba

6 years, 7 months ago

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@ LordChaos

Offended? Nah just sitting back to watch the nuttery ;3

SentinelX

6 years, 7 months ago

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There's racism on both sides of the spectrum. Fuck, people have found racism in peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Fuck you people who go looking for racism, and FUCK you people that decide to create a case of racism when you can't actually find it.

RokukeShiba

6 years, 7 months ago

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@ SentinelX

Welp I totally offended this guy XD

SentinelX

6 years, 7 months ago

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Nope, I'm just going off on assholes who keep finding new things to claim are racist. Fuck it. The claim of racism is being expanded to mean quite literally everything, so in the end it ultimately means nothing whatsoever. They're abusing a serious issue and cheapening it.

RokukeShiba

6 years, 7 months ago

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@ SentinelX

*patpat* Welp you should calm down and breathe deep, being offended at a drop of a hat and going into a rant about "you people" is not good for your well being. After all I bet you got more important things in life that require your full attention then things that don't affect you.

Be happy and live life ;3

WubstepLizard

6 years, 7 months ago

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More JO sessions needed, should do the trick :3

RokukeShiba

6 years, 7 months ago

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@ WubstepLizard

and live life ;3

sedkitty

6 years, 7 months ago

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Yep. Racism ended the moment MLK Jr. finished his speech. It's been skittles and beer for all races, since.

KevinSnowpaw

6 years, 7 months ago

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wait so none whites cant eat skittles OR drink beer? WTF thats horrible DX

im get on this right away this overt racism must stop!

Seriusly =p Racism still exists but this concept that it's institutionalized is horse shit.

sedkitty

6 years, 7 months ago

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Tell that to the blacks and Latinx who constantly get "randomly chosen" at airports and followed by cops. Oh, and there's that other group who get constantly chosen nowadays for some reason.

KevinSnowpaw

6 years, 7 months ago

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some of thats a racial bised but the data tends to show the opasit, for example most fatalities caused on blacks by police...are done by BLACK police. Take away from that what you will.

the concept of institutionalised racism means the system is riged against people... wich presently it's not. I hope it never is again.

sedkitty

6 years, 7 months ago

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Cops are taught in academies that black people commit the most crime. Street cops are told to patrol predominantly poor neighbourhoods, 'cause supposedly that's where all the crime is; two guesses about what people live there. And it turns out that when you're told to look for something, you find it. Black people are much more likely to be arrested for the same crime. Marijuana possession, for instance -- the percentage of people who 420blazeit is fairly uniform across races, but black people are charged with possession far more than the numbers would suggest. Black people are arrested more than white people for the same crime. It's as if discrimination based on race were ingrained in the institution.

When you're in the uniform, you're not black, you're not white -- you're blue. Black cops report being more nervous in black neighbourhoods. When nervous cops meet up with nervous citizens, things are not going to end well. Part of that nervousness is knowing that your actions are going to be judged. White cops know that if they shoot an unarmed black person, it's going to reflect badly on them. Black cops? They're focused on taking down the bad guy.

KevinSnowpaw

6 years, 7 months ago

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well thats racial profiling not institutionalized racism, Institutionalized racism would be physical laws on the books that say "you cant serve a black person" or "Mexicans arnt allowed to own dogs" or some crap like "you cant serve alcohol to the Irish" or perhaps "if two individuals who are equally qualified for a position apply for the same position but one of them is a minority group you MUST hire the minority" Oh wait thats affirmative action...maybe I was wrong...

there IS more crime in poor neighborhoods thats not something thats suggested, implied or tought without evidence, thats a fact. so yeah cops patrol more in low income areas. If they did not these ares would become even more dangerous. I should know I live in a low income area, across the street from two fuckers who deal drugs....in front of a god damned church! of all places! It's a small town with few cops and lots of poor people. So we have drug and gang problems.

crime statistics SHOW that some groups of people do crimes more often then others, the reasons behind these are not racial, but cultural or economic, Groups of well off Mexicans, blacks ect, or no more likely to be involved in violent crime then well off white people, it's not a race thing, it just so happens that unfortunately there is a disproportionate low income and poverty rate among some groups more so then others. There are meny reasons for this But im not going into them here but the data isent racist the data is just data, so we cant say "well more people of X group are arrestedby Y group so Y group is racist, not when X group is part of C group and C group is POOR PEOPLE!"

Given that data I can understand why an officer might assume he is going to get more shit in some areas then in others. If you told me that every fith blue box had a bomb in it, and then told me every 30th red box had a bomb in it, then backed that up with actual data, I would be far more apprehensive on days were my job is opening up blue boxes.

theres this.. Anti blue narrative im seeing a lot and I dont like it, I am 100% AGAINST officers abusing there power or using undue force in any given situation, I am PRO more body cams so we can see what is actualy happening in any and all cases were arrests are made. This also protects officers who are in the right, as well as protects people from abuse by officers.
But lets not make a mistake the cops are here to protect us and enforce the rule of law. We should be helping them do that job.

so on this much we can agree at least I think that our officers should have more observance for there and our protection.

sedkitty

6 years, 7 months ago

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No.

Google "institutional racism".  Click the wiki link.  Read.  Comprehend.

In the US, black people are 3 times more likely to be arrested for MJ possession than white people, but usage is basically identical across races.  Explain.

Y'know, I've had a really shitty couple of weeks, and my patience is pretty limited right now.  I'm not really in the mood to repeat things over and over to someone who won't even admit he leans heavily conservative.

Take care, Kev.

KevinSnowpaw

6 years, 7 months ago

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I dont lean heavaly Im only Fiscaly Conservtive Socialy i tend to leen more left XD like gay marrage is awesome and shit ect.

and your CORRECT about black people getting harsher drug sentenceing, but thats not a law or a requirment. I DO agree however, that it is stupid. It was done becouse they thought it would solve the drug problem in primaraly low income black camunnities... it has not... not at all. Why they still do it I CANT explain it IS retarted. On that point we agree.

sedkitty

6 years, 7 months ago

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They do it because it's institut-- fuck it, I give up. Enjoy the last word, Kev.

KevinSnowpaw

6 years, 7 months ago

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you dont get to just claim it's institutionalized racism, show me the laws. show me the laws that are racist and i will AGREE they need to be struct down.

the entire MJ being criminalized with Jail or even prison time is retarded, but show me were on the law books it states if the person who Has broken the law on this ONE topic is black, or fuck it even just NOT WHITE, that we need to give them a harsher sentencing. Im not saying we dont still have racism, I AM saying that it's not magically "the system" out to get you.

I DID read your Wikipedia recommendation even IGNORING the glaring issues with this article and even ignoring the fact that ANYBODY can write one, it is not properly validated.

SO i say again show me the laws and I will AGREE they need to be struck down. Until then maybe just don't own pot? At this rate it's gonna be legal in most of the US inside 10 years anyway.

sedkitty

6 years, 7 months ago

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IR has approximately zero to do with laws. Have Oxford's definition. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/institutio...

In fact, let me ^C^V it for you:

"	Oxford dictionary wrote:
	Racial discrimination that has become established as normal behaviour within a society or organization.

KevinSnowpaw

6 years, 7 months ago

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Ok and I think any form of racial bised preferential or detramental, is wromg. and I think most people would agree that it is wrong so *shrug* if a judge slams sombody with a harsher sentence, maybe he's being racist maybe he is just being a hard ass exactly how would you propose we fix the issue? Becouse assumeing there is one and I dont think it's wide spread enough to count as a socity wide issue and is instead just groups of indaviduals, how would we go about Fixing the problem?

Becouse there is a fine line between this kind of thinking and a victom complex. For example, to cite the Wiki artical you liked, Black people being poor is possibly, institutionalized racism along with Standardized testing, but ME being poor thats just tough tits.

sarcasm aside, I AM lagitamitly curious to here a reasonable answer on this issue, and I dont expect you to have one if it was so easy im sure we would have fiugred it out, but aside from giveing preferential treatment to "underprivledged groups" how exactly do we fix institutionalized racism?

My Answer to that is to stop with all the identity bullshit and stop looking at people like thats a black man, thats a white man! and just teach kids to think of them as "just a man" Skin pigmentation should be just that, pigment.

I will go half way with you on this one XD I have observed that minorty indaviduals DO sometimes suffer from what could be veiwed as a racial bised when it comes to setenceing for some things, we cant prove it but lets ASSUME for the sake of argument that they are, even the ones that are just hard ass judges, so we have a controled enviornment.

Do we just sugest manditory setenceing minimums for every crime? do we remove the judges authority to determine the savarity of a punishment by stateing a FIXED amount of time and nothing more or less?

Also were do you personal veiw stand out examples of institutional racism and how would you go about fixing those or pointing them out in a way that does not tip the scales to far into the other direction?

I belive a judge for example, should have the right to determin with in reason the savarity of a setence, based on piror convictions and his best judgement...thats why he or she is a judge, how then would we prevent the misuse of this athority how would we determin a misuse has occured?

sedkitty

6 years, 7 months ago

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Anyway, we're not gonna convince each other, so.

FriskeyFurley

6 years, 7 months ago

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did someone made a stupid journal again?

Weiss

6 years, 7 months ago

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Just our friendly neighborhood raccoon again

FriskeyFurley

6 years, 7 months ago

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well i dont watch him anymore and blocked him etc
im on inkbunny to see anthros doing sex and such stuff
not for ppl having shitty opinions about certain things

Weiss

6 years, 7 months ago

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That's the thing with these political journals, it's all OPINION, nothing more. I read the journal in question, he was proven wrong in the comment section multiple times but kept going" Nah dude, i'm right, you're wrong"

FriskeyFurley

6 years, 7 months ago

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isn't that the defination of stupid?
i understand not knowing something
but if ppl prove something wrong you think is right
and still think you are right that's stupid

Weiss

6 years, 7 months ago

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He is stupid, simple as that. When i told him that this kind of stuff has no place on IB he replied with "But naturally all the crap you draw and say does have a place on here, right? Weird, that. I never knew you were the one who decided what belongs on inkbunny lol" He has no common sense whatsoever

FriskeyFurley

6 years, 7 months ago

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but this site is for nsfw anthro art
and not a politics forum XD

Weiss

6 years, 7 months ago

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It's not JUST him though, it's his like minded idiots too, listen to this reply i got from someone who i wont name:"Yeesh, someone get the hyperbole police on this one. I think we'll let the ones whose opinions are actually important on this matter decide on what is and is not acceptable for Inkbunny. This community is about expression and ideas be they pornographic or political and sorry that this tree grew a little too far on your side of the fence but branches happen."

FriskeyFurley

6 years, 7 months ago

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but where do those ppl get the idea

that this site is for political stuff?

Weiss

6 years, 7 months ago

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Oh you know, freedom of speech and the fact that, well, THEY CAN

FriskeyFurley

6 years, 7 months ago

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freedom of speech doesnt mean that this site was made for political discourse
it is mainly for pornographic arts
freedom of speech also allows us ppl who dont agree to say them that their opinion is shit

Weiss

6 years, 7 months ago

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What i find funny is how the person says" The people who's opinions are actually important" as if everyone's opinion wasn't important and as if the vast majority of the community wasn't sick and tired of political nonsense

Elmotus

6 years, 7 months ago

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That, and there is no rule against it. If you don't like political journals, there is a handy "Remove Notice" button that you can click to hide it from yourself, it's quite handy!

Weiss

6 years, 7 months ago

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Just because they CAN doesn't mean they SHOULD.

Elmotus

6 years, 7 months ago

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Then why shouldn't they? They are as free to make a journal about politics as you are to express your dislike of said journals about politics.

Weiss

6 years, 7 months ago

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Because this is not the appropriate place to discuss politics, this is a site for furry art.. Maverick Skye said it best so i'm going to quote him directly here:

"I get it. We have opinions. I get it, journals are a way to express your opinions. But sometimes....don't you think that you actually just don't need to say something. Even if it's an opinion. I'm sure it isn't THAT important that you need to talk about race, gender politics, politics in general, when, not gonna lie, more than half of you here that talk about it most seem to know the least about the subtleties of any side you take or the side you're against. And just sit there and rally on a freaking porn site for furries. Like, jeez. If you have that serious of an opinion, take it to twitter or something. IB and FA really ain't for that. Because really, all it's going to do is breed echo chambers and people looking to fight, rather than breed some intelligent conversation.

Yes, an intelligent conversation will crop up from time to time in these journals, but I swear to you, those are outliers and not the norm."

Elmotus

6 years, 7 months ago

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This isn't the appropriate place to discuss politics (or anything else not related to furry art) according to who? You can still browse art without issues while ignoring journals you do not wish to read.

Weiss

6 years, 7 months ago

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I already answered that so i'm not going to answer it again. And when journals about politics or journals pointing TO journals about politics start cropping up over and over and over again several times a day it becomes IMPOSSIBLE to ignore them

sedkitty

6 years, 7 months ago

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According to me. I am the arbiter of all decisions everywhere. For the record, GIF is pronounced with a hard G. No need to thank me.

Elmotus

6 years, 7 months ago

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I take back everything I've ever said about anything!

DeactivatedKobold

6 years, 7 months ago

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i guess i missed another shitshow by blocking him huh? awesome

Weiss

6 years, 7 months ago

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@ DeactivatedKobold

Ended up having to do that myself just now. Not only is his political journals BS but his arguments to defend it are equally BS. I said on someone else's journal that just so happened to be sharing his that political discourse like his has no place on IB. And what does he say back to me?"But naturally all the crap you draw and say does have a place on here, right? Weird, that. I never knew you were the one who decided what belongs on inkbunny lol." Seems like this person has no common sense whatsoever

BrokenPupper

6 years, 7 months ago

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Oh Lordy the cringe! >.<

KaloTheSkunk

6 years, 7 months ago

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Funny thing being he was just as imperialist as George Bush was before him.
Being a skin colour doesn't make anyone an angel descending in a sun beam.
Racism and anti-racism is a superstition. Just as dumb and wishful as the theist vs atheist debate. Like who cares. Either way it is inconsequential and they are both idiots. lol

RokukeShiba

6 years, 7 months ago

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@ KaloTheSkunk

lol I'm just laughing at people who complain about sjw's acting like sjw's when its something they don't like. :P

Man people worry to much about stuff they don't really effect them.

KaloTheSkunk

6 years, 7 months ago

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