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Censorship is growing each day

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First.. again, forbidde my bad speech, but my english really sucks for long messages like this one,  Well.. i think everybody knows FA oficially excuse was becouse payment systems like alertpay and paypal doesn't want to be involved on porn... so i'll not talk about that ...


Not sure if all know but we work for many paysites.. between them hentaikey, year and half ago they forced me to stop producing loli pictures for their sites,  thats ok ...theres a raid against lolicon since years ago, to the point there's not much places that post lolicon nowdays, i totally understand their idea to protect real childrens,  <starting old comment, you can skip this part (italic text) if you don't have much time to read> tough i always found stupid to ban pictures becouse represent something polemical and criminal if the actions drawn on a paper are done in the real life.. but they dont' censore violent things or drawings depicting murdering for example...  if you watch a lolicon drawing, you're a PEDO!! (they judge like you already did the crime represented on the drawing) .. BUT if you watch a KILL BILL manga you aren't a murder.. (no matter if the hero here was an assassin, the actions are done by the character, not you)...   it's stupid to believe if you see 300 (movie) and then you will go outside slashing people after watch the movie, and its the same with drawings, but ...meh, i talked enought about that... </end of the old comment>  its silly but i understand why people are worried...  hentaikey says they didn't banned the stuff themself, it was their Servers providers i believe, and credit card companies...  half a year ago they told me block scenes of forced sex... and i said.. WTF??... Slavetoon.com have a bondage/submission theme.. i told them if i stop doing that it will means that site will not longer exist, and the reply was,  "draw the bondage and the rest  but don't make it look like they are forced"...  my brain almost exploded... is like asking you to draw a rape scene and someway make it look like is not forced...  voluntary rape?.. does that exist? .... i'll just act like i never read this message  tought on that moment....

There's a lot of hipocrecy here, made for politics and religion fanatics, and stupid moral concepts... i always tought on the stupid fact that TV networks censor the human body, but they broadcast crimes, drug habits, swearing, practically you can teach a kid about how cool is to smoke or steal things but you cant show them boobs for example, at least in the morning.. WTF ... thats what humans use for feed babies since the beggining of our history!... we all have genitals but we can't show our bodys on public becouse is inmoral ...of course i'm part of this society and i'll feel embarrased if i present myself nude on public, like most of you guys will. ...but is not that stupid?, to feel embarrased of our body?.. you, me, them, we all have bodies that are very similar each other, we born nude, why our body should be something inmoral, why sex is inmoral, and not violence?

Returning to the topic, years ago i started to work with Mobius Network and thanks god still have no troubles with censorship there.. i also work for hentaiunited.com  and well.. i received a message that i can't post teen pictures (TEENS, NOT LOLI.. TEENS) and FURRY!.. becouse VISA doesn't want it.. yeah.. the censorship is now reaching FURRY... hentaikey banned me furry pics also (thanks god not all) but the ones that depicts humans with furry characters... becouse THATS BESTIALTY FOR THEM!.. POOR ANIMALS!! ..... do you know why porn sites doesn't accept paypal?.. becouse they don't want to be involved on porn...  and what is "porn"?, searching on internet i got this :  "porn is the explicit portrayal of sexual subject matter for the purposes of sexual arousal and erotic satisfaction"... so being aroused is something inmoral for them, something banneable, and they don't want to be part of it... i wonder how they can reproduce, i bet 99% of those hipocrits already fapped with porn...  do you want to screw a adult artwork artist that you hate, just report their paypal account for accept payments for porn... world is not fair isn't?...   and i'm wondering, where all this censorship will take us, we are proud to be on a modern civilization but we have more censorship than in 60s and 70s nowdays...  is like returning to 20s where girls wearing something like a bikini was something illegal...   i wonder if we will reach the point  where they will forbid porn that if is not straight human sex,  people having sex should be married and, no oral and anal sex cuz thats not ethic.... FUCK CENSORSHIP, but more important FUCK FAKE MORALISTS.

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mouse24
6 years, 7 months ago
This is one best Journals I have read in quite a while. I agree with with completely. I am stuck in area of the US known as bible belt, pretty much the heart of it. I see this kind of thinking daily. Its nice to know that there are still others out there that see this people for what they really are.
ClawMacKain
6 years, 7 months ago
The Bible Belt of America... Texas? I ask because I live in the state and I hear it called that a lot.
mouse24
6 years, 7 months ago
Not quite, im in Mississippi, home of prop 26 and the American Families Association.  
ClawMacKain
6 years, 7 months ago
Sheesh... And I thought Texas had some religious nuts...
mouse24
6 years, 7 months ago
im sure Texas is bad to
ClawMacKain
6 years, 7 months ago
It can be. But the funny thing is, part of Texas promotes being weird. The motto of Austin, the state capital, is "Keep Austin Weird."
mouse24
6 years, 7 months ago
that sound kinda fun
ClawMacKain
6 years, 7 months ago
Yeah, it's amusing to see Texans with hair that's unnatural to human or animal. One of my old job trainers there had green hair. And me being a born Texan and goth was the least weird thing there.
mouse24
6 years, 7 months ago
nice :)
JaceFox
6 years, 7 months ago
It is. I have some friends there. they are more about freedom of rights though.
mouse24
6 years, 7 months ago
maybe Texas can be saved, it to late here
yiharbin
6 years, 7 months ago
people are stupid and a pain in the ass.... you know?
it is not just internet censorship and shit like that. i was arrested because some kid at school told the police i threatened him. there was zero proof, zero cause, nothing! i was arrested and am still catching hell for it!!!

the world is going to hell, people are being pussed out and no one seems to realize how people or the world really works!
phyrexfirestorm
6 years, 7 months ago
I feel you on that one. nobody has a "thick skin" nowadays. Hell, most people cant figure out what that term means! I remember when this:

"Oh my god! Harold, I just saw a squirrel licking it's nuts at school."

"At school?! That monster!"

"I know! I'm reporting that to the principal, and I'll see to it that the squirrel is removed from this country."


Used to be this:

-a kid walks by- "Huh. A squirrel lickin a couple acorns." -kid keeps walkin-

-a few steps later- "That reminds me, I need to get ready for the superbowl party." -forgets about the squirrel by now-

Funny though it is, it's true, and you know it. we used to not give a damn, but now anyone can censor anything if they dont like it.
It'd a damned shame.
yiharbin
6 years, 7 months ago
IKR!!!!
just this morning my little brother left the TV on the news and there was a school mom complaining that her kids were given candy and it is making her job of taking care of the kids harder.
it is not just censorship! all around, there are people bitching and complaining about this and that. there are few people that pull people out of this kind of 'the world revolves around me' attitude/mindset is war of some kind. not just any war, a war where the enemy is definite and out to destroy the american way (and increase nationalism in the US as well). Which is why I believe in brining mack the soviet union. was the US ever stronger? and did technology ever advance quicker? wasnt everyone involved?
lol, sorry for going off on a little rant-ish thing ther XDD
but, if you think about it, people wouldnt be bitching about stupid things like internet piracey and kids getting candy if they feel their way of life is being threatened. lol
phyrexfirestorm
6 years, 7 months ago
This is true. ^_^
A gun to your head tends to make you redefine your priorities.
yiharbin
6 years, 7 months ago
hehe
I wonder if that would ever happen... a revival of the good old USSR
*sigh* a boy can dream
phyrexfirestorm
6 years, 7 months ago
The way we are now? we'd b annihilated. unpatriotit? yes. Statement of fact? most likely.
yiharbin
6 years, 7 months ago
lol, what i was thinking is just bringing it back first, let the communist and capitalist countries/nations compete a bit (the good thing is that china is technically communist and they dont give a fuck about their people. so, if you need human test subjects for science, being on the same side as china wouldnt be bad XD not to mention if russia rejoins.... russia and china are two of the largest countries, especially together.... thats like five times the size and population of the US alone. so, theyd have to be stupid to not feel out numbered or threatened)

lol
KyunaWolf
6 years, 7 months ago
People always change things around to make it what they want it to mean it's stupid and i agree with you 100%
Mogura
6 years, 7 months ago
drawing bondage without forching? "ello, my fair lady may i assume you int a little play fair play of pakage and mailman?"

i say fuck censorship and host an wosn server in neutal seearea like an abandoned oilplatform!

without porn the internet would be an insider about ITlern...

give us back our rape, loli, furry, gore, zoo, scat or whatever excange of bodyfluids for money we like
KushHeadFievel
6 years, 7 months ago
" Not sure if all know but we work for many paysites.. between them hentaikey, year and half ago they forced me to stop producing loli pictures for their sites,  thats ok ...theres a raid against lolicon since years ago, to the point there's not much places that post lolicon nowdays, i totally understand their idea to protect real childrens, tough i always found stupid to ban pictures becouse represent something polemical and criminal if the actions drawn on a paper are done in the real life.. but they dont' censore violent things or drawings depicting murdering for example...  if you watch a lolicon drawing, you're a PEDO!! (they judge like you already did the crime represented on the drawing) .. BUT if you watch a KILL BILL manga you aren't a murder.. (no matter if the hero here was an assassin, the actions are done by the character, not you)...   it's stupid to believe if you see 300 (movie) and then you will go outside slashing people after watch the movie, and its the same with drawings, but ...meh, i talked enought about that... its silly but i understand why people are worried...  hentaikey says they didn't banned the stuff themself, it was their Servers providers i believe, and credit card companies...  half a year ago they told me block scenes of forced sex... and i said.. WTF??... Slavetoon.com have a bondage/submission theme.. i told them if i stop doing that it will means that site will not longer exist, and the reply was,  "draw the bondage and the rest  but don't make it look like they are forced"...  my brain almost exploded... is like asking you to draw a rape scene and someway make it look like is not forced...  voluntary rape?.. does that exist? .... i'll just act like i never read this message  tought on that moment....

it's a pickle?
the laws are confusing in a way on this. it states at parts that some things are accepted, as others are not. it makes me dizzy trying to read American law on this, and I am American. If I am understanding it correctly, only anything which shows forced acts of anything sexual, are illegal. some things i still don't understand however,, as Elle from Elle to Takara wasn't completely willing at first... and then found his body could do certain things... and then began falling in love with Takara.
to be completely honest though, I don't think what people place on a piece of paper, should be regulated.
I believe in a different system then what America currently has. A system which is absolute. If someone takes photos of a child being sexually abused, that should be illegal!
If someone draws the same kind of stuff, but there's no involvement from a child, that should be (Legal).
After 12, most children are capable of having sex themselves, some grow into it earlier, but only some.
KushHeadFievel
6 years, 7 months ago
" There's a lot of hipocrecy here, made for politics and religion fanatics, and stupid moral concepts... i always tought on the stupid fact that TV networks censor the human body, but they broadcast crimes, drug habits, swearing, practically you can teach a kid about how cool is to smoke or steal things but you cant show them boobs for example, at least in the morning.. WTF ... thats what humans use for feed babies since the beggining of our history!... we all have genitals but we can't show our bodys on public becouse is inmoral ...of course i'm part of this society and i'll feel embarrased if i present myself nude on public, like most of you guys will. ...but is not that stupid?, to feel embarrased of our body?.. you, me, them, we all have bodies that are very similar each other, we born nude, why our body should be something inmoral, why sex is inmoral, and not violence?


in a system of (Absolutes), only violence and improper places for certain things would be punished. if this system would be like ahh, my law system... I would encourage people with money, to setup places where people could be naked. some sexual acts in some ways and circumstances would be ignored. only the one's where problems are rising, would be punished. it would be swift, strict, and harsh.

(unless a child complains about forced acts,) is an example of what's not actually tolerated.

I have researched this, and there's places in this world, where's some children have been through some sexual things and don't even care. If they don't know it as wrong, then they won't get any bad feelings from it either.
Enough with that though.

" Returning to the topic, years ago i started to work with Mobius Network and thanks god still have no troubles with censorship there.. i also work for hentaiunited.com  and well.. i received a message that i can't post teen pictures (TEENS, NOT LOLI.. TEENS) and FURRY!.. becouse VISA doesn't want it.. yeah.. the censorship is now reaching FURRY... hentaikey banned me furry pics also (thanks god not all) but the ones that depicts humans with furry characters... becouse THATS BESTIALTY FOR THEM!.. POOR ANIMALS!! ..... do you know why porn sites doesn't accept paypal?.. becouse they don't want to be involved on porn...  and what is "porn"?, searching on internet i got this :  "porn is the explicit portrayal of sexual subject matter for the purposes of sexual arousal and erotic satisfaction"... so being aroused is something inmoral for them, something banneable, and they don't want to be part of it... i wonder how they can reproduce, i bet 99% of those hipocrits already fapped with porn...  do you want to screw a adult artwork artist that you hate, just report their paypal account for accept payments for porn... world is not fair isn't?...   and i'm wondering, where all this censorship will take us, we are proud to be on a modern civilization but we have more censorship than in 60s and 70s nowdays...  is like returning to 20s where girls wearing something like a bikini was something illegal...   i wonder if we will reach the point  where they will forbid porn that if is not straight human sex,  people having sex should be married and, no oral and anal sex cuz thats not ethic.... FUCK CENSORSHIP, but more important FUCK FAKE MORALISTS.


Censorship is a weird thing. They can throw lots of sexual references around on shows like (Family Guy)... often with comical punchlines with an infant in the middle of it. But if someone is drawing Stewie naked, people start saying (Pedophile) right away.
So fine!, in some ways I am a Pedophile, but I am choosing safe and clean ways away from children, and I find that's a good decision for me personally. I love having sex with a 2 - 12-year-old Fievel in story, and I can do that, and it's not harming anyone.
here's something I really like.
" FUCK FAKE MORALISTS.

Them people are not moralists... they are people hiding from their own devils. people who are personally
KushHeadFievel
6 years, 7 months ago
disturbed by certain things, who get others agreeing with them.
Some have personal grudges, which is dealing with abuse in their own lives, and they think it needed to be placed into the legal system. I was horribly sexually abused by my grandfather, but that if I get into politics is unnecessary, to place into the system, just because of things which happened in my personal background.
Anyways... I feel nothing which is created on a piece of paper should be regulated.
Nothing which is placed on Digital paper should be regulated either. (Bart's Feet Still Look Like Hell.)  LOL.
Just try to press the created parts of everything I typed, and maybe more will understand.  ;)  :D


Sorry I made this so long.
CrypticNightmare
6 years, 7 months ago
This gets a full agreement from me and, as I said previously on squirrelfox's journal, why is it that people accept a picture depicting rape or killing of a fictional character, yet cry 'sicko' over a fictional incest or cub drawing? It really makes no sense, when you think about it in terms of fiction, since no one is getting hurt over it.
McDutt
6 years, 7 months ago
That human still has to be born, who can stop me from drawing free toonporn and finding ways to publish it! *evillaughs*
DragonMind
6 years, 7 months ago
Irrational minds in positions of power. When people stop putting them their, it Will stop!
ChaosSabre
6 years, 7 months ago
I always found it funny how they always go PORN EVIL!!!!!
I srsly got no idea why porn is such a evil thing.
Bledar
6 years, 7 months ago
That's what I hate about morality, about this whole stupid society. All this comes from judgement-based religions that started thousands of years ago in the Middle East, and evolved into corrupt political ideologies.

And as for the whole "pedo" thing, people have to realize that pedophile doesn't mean psychopath. Many people who like shota/loli/cub are, technically, pedophiles. And you know what? They're all right - they don't necissarily bother anyone. Most cub fans on this site are totally normal people, in every way. And I like cub, so techincally, I'm a pedophile. There, I said it! :)
Pedophile does not equal child molester.

I tell you, bbmbbf, if this world is to survive there must be another revolution. There's nothing evil about sexuality. It's part of every living creature on the planet. Most of the evil in this world is caused by greed, predjudice and fear - not sexuality. And of course, some people are just psychopaths.

I think that one day, all this will reach a peak. People who are always demonized, marginalized and persecuted for doing nothing wrong eventually get sick of it and say "enough is enough". People must realize that sexuality is not evil, their bodies are not evil or dirty, and there's nothing wrong with being different. It doesn't mean you bother anybody else. Thanks for posting this journal. It gives me hope, seeing somebody who can think outside of the tiny box society forced them into. I've recently realized that ancient societies, while they still had their flaws, were much better than any society is today.

People like us have to stick together. Maybe one day, we should form some kind of paypal-like service just for porn. Then that problem would be solved for good. :)

Well, I can't think of any clever one-liner to finish my rant off. All I can say is, stay wise and keep it real. ^^
phyrexfirestorm
6 years, 7 months ago
" Bledar wrote:
People like us have to stick together. Maybe one day, we should form some kind of paypal-like service just for porn. Then that problem would be solved for good. :)



I second this!
Bluelimelight
6 years, 7 months ago
"FUCK CENSORSHIP, but more important FUCK FAKE MORALISTS."



Best thing I have heard all year  >:)
Mousington
6 years, 7 months ago
pretty soon, we'll have to resort to serectly sending eachother porn...

like drug dealers ^^
EroKord
6 years, 7 months ago
tl;dr :P

Often you see the loudest objections to anything come from a closet lover of said thing. That senator or congressman who was in charge of protecting kids having sex with underage staff members. That evangelist Christian snorting coke off a young male prostitute, etc. These moralists are almost always more fucked up than the average person. When they are all outed and shamed for their hypocrisy, we'll be left with moderate people who don't care about censorship, because it's not a fetish for them. They don't have to make nudity or sexuality naughty so they can get off to the naughtiness.

The sad thing is we're all indoctrinated to some extent. Like you said yourself, you wouldn't go nude in public, neither would I. but that's fucking stupid, we both (I think) know there is nothing wrong with the human form, you said so yourself, we all have genitals. We're brainwashed to think it's shameful based on outdated religious concepts, and even though we know that, we still feel it. Even if the sane people of the world won, and any censorship of things that doesn't hurt anyone was lifted anywhere, we'd still all likely be too injured by our warped upbringing to fall into that lifestyle, at least not with a lot of therapy to adapt ourselves to what we think is true. And we would indoctrinate the next generation just like we were.

Unfortunately, BECAUSE we're all indoctrinated it'll never happen. Just like religion is still around, this ridiculous concept of prudishness will always be around, because each generation is brought up to think and feel that way, and only a minority of us ever question it, and even if we do, there's nothing we could do. Nudists are being arrested for being nude in their own homes. Culturally liberated people believe one thing and act and say another. Social pressures insure if anyone says anything they are immediately ostracized.

It's a system built to stagnate and reject change, because the old people with the power hate change, and when they young people get to power, they are already old and indoctrinated.

There is no way to protest for cultural liberation. It's not like saving animals, or saving the trees. Those with ridiculous beliefs have had decades to put together their brainwashing campaign. It's a sad ending, but in this case, there's no way to fight. Anyone fighting for nudity will be seen as a pervert, even if there is nothing perverted about the nude form. Even if the nude form has been seen as art through most of mankind's history. The debate is 100% under control by sick people who want to shove drugs and violence down our throats. It's a system of determined intentional control. Cause strife with addiction, cause fighting with violence and politics, stop people from being themselves through the creation of a exclusionary set of norms that ostracize those different. If the people were free from those things they would realize the issue, and those in power would be ousted or outright killed for the crimes they've committed.

Even if you look at the more liberal Europe, where nudity isn't AS big of a deal, they still have the moral right, and censorship, sometimes even more so.

No "million strong" protest of perverts for nudity is going to rise up, because each of those "perverts" knows that alone all they will do is ostracize themselves. Even if EVERYONE appreciates the nude form, or even if for some fucked up reason they don't, have a nude body themselves. And as I said before, attempting to try and mainstream sexuality is even more of a long shot.

I myself am guilty of this. When people think of sexual liberation, the idea makes sense, everything about it makes sense to me. But if I think of it in a personal situation, I would have a negative gut reaction, because I've been condition, like in A Clockwork Orange. If I knew a sexually liberated woman I think "slut." or man I would think "Asshole has 0 priorities."

It's kind of depressing...
Bledar
6 years, 7 months ago
That's so true. Have you ever heard of the Westboro Baptist Church? They're the worst homophobic vermin in the world. Although I heard the head preacher, Fred Phelps, admitted he was never interested in girls.

I think a lot of it is because self-haters hate the fact that they're not comfortable with themselves, and they're jealous of anyone who is comfortable with who they are. So they try and take it out on others.

But I think you're wrong when you say it can't change. That's just resignation. How can change happen if you don't believe it will? There are two things you need: hope and perserverance.

Here's a quote from Mulan: "No matter how hard the wind howls, the mountain will never bow to it."
Shadowwalk
6 years, 7 months ago
This is starting to be like Family Guy's 'PTV', but for real!

This is getting nuts...
phyrexfirestorm
6 years, 7 months ago
"His chin looks like balls. You want me to censor that, too?"
jasperfox
6 years, 7 months ago
I say that the entire furry community needs to make our own pay service site like alertpay or paypal, or we can just do money orders. No one gets to tell us what to do!
We dont need them anyway, there are tons of computer knowledgeable furs, let them make our own version of paypal.
Combine that with a encryption system and the banks wont even know why the money is for.
These banks, card services and companies have no right to tell us how to live in our communities.
Aquawolf
6 years, 7 months ago
                               ^

                          Agreed
Bledar
6 years, 7 months ago
That's a great idea. A pay service that is made specifically for this. Then paypal and alertpay have no more control over us. :)
phyrexfirestorm
6 years, 7 months ago
For 2 reasons, too:

1) we'll have an option.

2) they'd go bankrupt.....
Bledar
6 years, 7 months ago
Exactly. Then they'll be begging us to come back. XD
KhellSennet
6 years, 7 months ago
The world is coming to a point where we will soon have to reevaluate our beliefs.  The religious stranglehold on people has weakened, and much of the morality based on the bible is being seen for the bullshit it is.  Taboos are being looked at in new light, and things which were immoral for our parents or our grandparents (such as premarital sex, homosexuality, or contraception) are going through a reversal of belief, where the "liberal" mindset tells us that it is not immoral, and that it is entirely natural.  This of course has caused those moralists and zealots to cling to what few taboos remain, and crusade against anything which threatens their last bastion of control over peoples' sexuality.  The crackdown on loli/shota and indeed, real child pornography, is heavily steeped with the notion that if they don't crush it beneath their heel, one day pedophilia may too become something socially acceptable, or at the very least, seen as a social disorder and not criminal activity.  It is the homosexuality fear, just with a new face.  And the older generations just don't ever want to take a look at things from the other side.  It is easier to condemn anyone who views Loli as a pedophile, or Fur art as a latent animal-fucker, then to actually examine the how's and why's of their urges, or to see if what they enjoy is actually wrong.  People don't want to reevaluate their beliefs because it scares them.
deadmaninwonderland
6 years, 7 months ago
" "draw the bondage and the rest  but don't make it look like they are forced"


I'd say the best way to give the idiots this is to include a little letter lying in the background of your Bondage pics with the words 'I being of sound mind and body to hereby consent to the following roleplay... So that fucking idiotic lawyers will leave me the fuck alone'. But that's just my recommendation.
kamperkiller
6 years, 7 months ago
Simple really try to get yourself access to a Japanese Server. :/

it's simple really they use the if you look at Animated CP then you will hunt Real CP that's it. however many states Do Not have those laws. :/
kamperkiller
6 years, 7 months ago
On a side note the US goverment will be adding "To help stop child pornography" to the end of SOPA and PIPA.... :/
Sakkano
6 years, 7 months ago
I guess FA has to ban furry pics then, because according to VISA it's Bestiality, which is illegal in most locations.. and material depicting illegal acts have to be taken down... that was their excuse when it came to cub.

I left FA behind because it was getting silly. If it doesn't have a big cock or massive tits, it's banned for being cub. And if it offends a mod, it gets removed too. No reason to look back.

Private services can do what they want to, but I don't have to use the ones I don't agree with.
Dakina
6 years, 7 months ago
Bah, all this censorship, the outcry from a small group of morally defending nutters against japanese manga showing panty shots killed all manga but Naruto and one piece in my homeland.

The dumbest thing is, that the ones protesting is also the generation who embraced free sex and gave rise to the horrid underground comic cults, yeah, those weirdos are now fighting against something they used to demand society embrace without complaint.

Why must only 2 percent of any given society control what the rest can do.
Kupok
6 years, 7 months ago
The only rights a person truly has are the rights a person has the power to enforce.

The sooner you see this one single truth, the less angry you shall be. And the sooner you can seek out power.
humbird0
6 years, 7 months ago
It's a little creepy to think that some companies are now more powerful then the legal system. After all, they control the money and the means.
They don't do it to merely coincide with laws. After all, porn isn't illegal.
It's based on something more arbitrary. Perhaps their public image?

It's surreal to think that a company's Public-Relations posturing can effectively override the legal systems and constitutions of multiple countries.
And not by any granted authority, but by simply having direct control over things.
Obviously, there aren't any safeguards against a company arbitrarily censoring content that passes through it.
Even if this is not technically a monopoly, if enough companies try to "look good", the effect is the same.
Obviously, if companies were being held liable for the content that passed through, this would be much worse. But even the risk of "looking bad" is enough to cause this.

What's even weirder is that it doesn't even have to be deliberate.
They just have to be clueless enough about what their customers (everyone on the planet) actually want.
And their attempt to appeal to what they think people want can actually be more powerful than what people actually want.
Kaheiyattsu
6 years, 7 months ago
Meh I'm going to keep drawing what I'm drawing. Fuck big buisness and corporate greed imma draw what I want.
artfan1988
6 years, 7 months ago
SAME HERE.
ThunderFap
6 years, 7 months ago
It's the fucking Economy Pietro, Standards have gone so high and the internet has become so mainstream that people are taking it much to seriously, back in the good young days cencorship wasnt as worried on it makes me wonder why all of a sudden this huge big deal of cencorship happened?
Lost
6 years, 7 months ago
One of the problems, and I don't really see where this started, is people have a tendency to summarize everyone by a singular action, word, belief, whatever. Basically the ultimate extreme of what you described. You like My Little Pony? It doesn't matter if you're a 23 year old college graduate with high honors and a straight As. In the eyes of the public, you're suddenly a 40 year old pedophile manchild who hangs outside the elementary schools. All because of one element in your life that didn't exist until barely 2 years ago. THIS in turn is influenced by a rampantly expanding wave of anti-intellectualism, xenophobia and a desire to create something to hate, to separate you from the people in the next cave. Unfortunately, the media loves this shit and has scarfed it down for the past 50 years, taking the worst representatives of a group or culture and using that to reflect on the entire group as a whole.

Some people don't seem to be capable of understanding multifaceted complexity. If you're a writer, that's all that you are. All you do is understand writering. If you're a construction worker, you're overweight and barely understand words with more than two syllables, or Mexican. You can't be like Asimov or Sagan or Tesla, and have many dimensions to your personality.

The second part is hypocrisy created by the self-proclaimed Moral Guardians, who try to force everyone else to bow to their Judeo-Christian values, and what do they focus on? Sex. Not the violence culture bred into the American culture from its very foundation and taken to abhorrent extremes by radicals over the decades, but sex. A natural act that is the ONLY reason any of us are around, demonized by a guilt-driven religion based on a martyr based on a miserable omnipotent tyrant inspired by a fear of the unknown and copious amounts of hashish driven to extremes. Sex was used as a demonization tool for centuries, and each subsequent generation is indoctrinated into believing that sex is in some way evil or immoral, or believe that "I'm not getting any, so you shouldn't be getting any, either!"

The third and most important aspect is control. The Internet is, for all its good and bad, basically uncontrolled by the government until you get into something like child porn or blatant piracy, and it's these two elements that the government is using to justify creating all these new laws to destroy the internet as we know it and turn it into a pool of commercial diarrhea (read: Facebook) where there is no privacy. They're doing this by strongarming companies and holding them accountable for what their customers do, which is like arresting the managers of a grocery store for aiding and abetting because a murderer buys food there. The Internet is also one of the last few bastions of free speech in the world, where even if you don't have the loudest voice in the room, you aren't immediately censored by a higher power. This is no better evidenced by Rupert Murdoch's support of SOPA, a guy who basically created an entire media empire around misinformation dependent on the ignorance of his viewers. Either government wants control of the internet (and I can think of a whole mess of reasons why), or some corporation wants control of the internet, buying government to use them as a truncheon.
kenji321
6 years, 7 months ago
many good points are being brought up in this journal.
I agree with what you are saying bbmbbf.
Please don't get discouraged by the hypocrisy.
ruink
6 years, 7 months ago
+5 mi amigo
shadyever
6 years, 7 months ago
why can't they get over it...it just a cartoon on paper...it not like a child going see it that why we put are art to 18+ so they don't see it...why fuss about it they got fucked themselfs
ScottyKat
6 years, 7 months ago
Religion wants to make the world a "decent place" and by decent they mean a place full of people who love pain, cruelty, suffering,  hate, bigotry and attacking people for thinking in ways not like theirs. They also want people ashamed of sex so they can control their breeding.. its classic Christianity.

Things like Freedom, pleasure, love, sex and anything people enjoy is something they want to control. And they do it with censorship... Honestly i'd love to tell em all to STFU and  mind their own damn business. Espeally considering how many of their priests not only sleep with kids, but are protected from the police when they are caught.

Fuck alla them. Let us have our god damn porn n peace. If i ran my own banking system i'd not care what my companys support. Porn makes more money then anything else. ITs mega profitable. Fuck Censorship. All hail Free thought and free choice to enjoy what ever the hell you like.
phyrexfirestorm
6 years, 7 months ago
-bows-


+3 rep.
ScottyKat
6 years, 7 months ago
I truely wish what i said was the total opposite of reality....
ButtercupSaiyan
6 years, 7 months ago
Oh, Pietro, I agree so much. In fact, I think I'll reblog and retweet this, there might be some typos, but it needs to be goddamn said. Also, TJA is our last haven, isn't it ... ? I know I'm going to move there. And my last resort will be fantasy art with elves, fairies and dragons, and epic scifi backgrounds and fractal art and clean comics, and possibly indie art films. It won't be easy to rebuild, I have a following, but it will be a big shift for me.

If I have to, I will. In the meantime, have you considered old style distribution? CDs, prints, through mail... I don't know how it can easily organized. I can do it on a case-by-case basis but I have no true product as of yet in traditional media OR things like CDs until I use CheetahJab's offer to help funding. And I agree so much, and where do you draw the line with cartoons?

Cartoons are meant to be cute, can you only sell things with BIG BOOBS? I am so petite and with only my hips showing any maturity, but people still think I could be underage and ask me what I'm taking in high-school. So I can't even sell a girl with my body type! It bothers me a bit, like ... there's something wrong me, being short and flat-chested with a round face?

So, of course I disagree. I have to disagree, I started by drawing PPG who are so far away from human they may as well just be representations like stick figures or aliens. And for that matter, do aliens count as "bestiality" or "animals"!?
bbmbbf
6 years, 7 months ago
hahhaha.. oh my friend, i always loved the way you think... * hug* ...i always loved smart girls ^^
ButtercupSaiyan
6 years, 7 months ago
Old friends are the best, right? It seems like time moves on but some things always stay the same...
ScottyKat
6 years, 7 months ago
*shakes my head* Im gonna blame the overprotective soccer moms on this one.
Girls dont need giant wobbly boobs to be sexy. But i can admit to having an attraction
to them. Honestly  a personality is worth more to me then DD's.
EroKord
6 years, 7 months ago
I'm reminded of the famous "Who needs tits with an ass like this" image.
That chick was hot.
Artzilla60
6 years, 7 months ago
Good point about aliens...The Mods here removed my pic of Captain Amelia  for the following reason-Human characters are permitted in artwork, however they must not appear in sexual situations and must not show genitals or sexual arousal.
...
Characters that are essentially human (pixies, faeries, elves, orcs, trolls, etc) or just have ears/tails or other superficial animal features applied are considered human for this rule.


I don't get it, If you look at Amelia's skull shape there is no way that it is "essentially human". Look at her face, no human has a nose that flat and wide -not even people who fight for a living. Her occipital region, more like a cat's . Same with the rib cage which is far shorter than "essentially human". I don't consider skeletal differences superficial at all but that's just me.
 
in closing, I'm a big fan of smart girls too! >hugs for  you!<
ButtercupSaiyan
6 years, 7 months ago
Can you show me a picture of the character? I'm interested.
Artzilla60
6 years, 7 months ago
I'll post one of my character studies, it'll be in my scraps gallery.
trombe12
6 years, 7 months ago
I agree with all of this, I'm not an expert with this stuff, but I do agree that censorship is getting out of hand, there should be places when people should speak there mind, both written and in art.

I guess not everybody in the world can be mature and accept who they are or what they fap to, that's just what I think. Art has always been and issue with a lot of people, over the years art and its forms of expression have been censored or removed by others for many reasons, you'd think in this day and age we would at least have better freedoms of expressions, but now it does seem that it is reversing, and I don't stand for it, that why I'm here at Inkbunny, to chat and discuss about the things we like, what we all like.

I came here to meet some of my favorite artists, such as Bbmbbf, I know what I like, if people cannot be mature or accept who we are here on Inkbunny then they should just leave us alone, I think.

Thats me on the whole internet censorship, were going to become more of a country were the government choose what we can see and not see, whats "moral" and unmoral, well FUCK THAT.
achthenuts
6 years, 7 months ago
The censorship is just most anti-freedom doing this stuff. Let's just say you born in nude, die in nude as well, no matter how you are. Also bestality is just own imagination, unless you like to do so in real-life (which was already happen). Without porn pics, nothing is excitement in your life.

Even if that person's poor at drawing, it needs at least draw for everyone... (which is how I start to draw porn in this way)

Then again, is just to protect children's negative mind. But it doesn't help, ANYTHING, at ALL.
SenGrisane
6 years, 7 months ago
Well, the whole system will explode one day. Trying to keep the sex drive bottled up, is like trying to cork a volcano ;3
TheKaiser
6 years, 7 months ago
I agree with this Journal 100% :)
berin22
6 years, 7 months ago
art is art try to censor it and u butcher creativity
when i interact in the real world things r different the environment and especially the people are so much more interactive
art compared to reality art wins as its a world of your own choosing
but reality is(pain), reality is(pleasure), reality is(what gave us creativity), reality and cant be ignored.
berin22
6 years, 7 months ago
so the lines exist only disappear to those who wield the sword of creativity, and with an imagination to match anything becomes possible(whether in the realms of imagination or reality.)
frostcat
6 years, 7 months ago
I really couldn't say it any better myself.

With the way that society and the economy is going where the majority of the world has become so paranoid that anything can be considered more evil and cruel other than poor education, gangs, and murder, it's going to end up like Demolition Man(movie) where we put on over-sized  Daft Punk helmets getting severe seizures, flopping around like fish while being stimulated.
Anonymous713
6 years, 7 months ago
People are just to fucking sensitive about everything. Everyone has different morals, so why can't they just not be involved it in rather than getting all pissed and trying to get it banned. PETA for example has mostly vegan members, but they can't just do that instead they have to go on this ridiculous campaigns trying to get everyone to be vegan because eating meat is wrong to them. If the Internet gets any more censored then I will have lost hope for all socity.
RedReynart
6 years, 7 months ago
Welcome to the world, ran by polititions and morlist extreamists that mislable everything to envoke fear which controls the people.
All sarcasm intended.

If you haven't noticed, ever since the 2000's or better known as the Noughties (as in nothing) The slight ease America got with rights have been ever so underminded with out WE the people knowing of it. From our rights to speach, press, Protest, bareing arms, Rights to privacy!, Religion, Even search and seizure.

Examples? Speach: Cant bad talk the president anymore every since Bush's JR popularity droped during his time in office and when Obama got in office there was an editorial comparing him to an ape and he got sued out the ass..

Can't Protest: But hey have we ever had this right? In the 50's and 60's it was so bad cops would shoot the protestors on sight.. Today it hasn't reached that part but when cops are shooting you with bean bags, rubber bullets, tear gas and pepperspray it shure as hell takes out right away.

Privacy: As you put it the ban of Porn is geting more and more out of control and its to a point where in the Dark Ages or Medivial Europe anything that isn't missionay and not made for procreation is called SODOMY. That include Oral,Anal and any other position and pleasure.

And GUESS WHAT! there are STATES in AMERICA that calls it ILLEAGLE but it isn't called sodomy OH that would be to harsh. Its called "CRIME AGAINST NATURE" And if convicted you are a sex offender. And if to say it isn't anti-gay..

Also IN Alabama they ban the selling of Dildoes. How redictulous.. So if you have a friend who by actcidently opens your top drawn OH KNOW the cops will arest you for CRIMES AGAINST NATURE.. -.- Tell me America is Free.

Religion: Ever since 9/11 if you dare look muslim try to board a plane and fly I dare you. Not every muslim is a TERROSIT. But that is what discrimination has got us and fear. With all other religions the country is heavly christian and you can go to any place and see it. But even so, they don't embrace other religions and try to embrace christianity and even that is shuned, But only in certain places. You can over the radio have songs with lyric saying god. even the radio host can speak and say GOD.

But an employee at wal-mary HAS to say Happy Holidays and can't say Marry Christmas. But if a JEW came up and asked for a Dradle or Madora(spelling?) Will they be directed to the ilse with it? NO because Wal-mart sells only Christmas Christian things.

Its the backwards politics that is messing up out country and it is geting so out of control. There is tension between the country and the people wants back their freedom! Like a streached rubber band that keeps being pulled by the politions trying to control us. I am waiting for the day the very instand for the band to break. Oh joyous days.
TailsyFox
6 years, 7 months ago
yep...hypocricy is written all over these companies and such..in fact more and more hypocrites are spreading by the day...its a crappy decade were living in today *sigh*
Artzilla60
6 years, 7 months ago
Keep this in mind!
 TheGovernment and Corporations want people Stupid!
They have done everything in their considerable power to Dumb Down society because a mindless society buys and does what they're told !
Question Authority!... Boycott evil corporations!...and Think, dammit Think!

this diatribe has been brought to you by the generation that watched the 60's fail
skunkpapers
6 years, 7 months ago
people are odd...
65k10
6 years, 7 months ago
Good read. I'll say up front that I used to be a bit of a moralist (not the religious type mind you, but somewhat of a moralist none the less. One other thing, I put any blame to being that way on myself and my own misguided beliefs. My parents taught me how to be a good person and nothing more). Put it this way, there were certain things I disproved of, but I didn't go any farther than bitching about it.

I guess what has changed me was as I got to reading more about certain issues the more I became unsure of my original position on them. Simply put, what I thought was some new wave of immoral behavior that would be ruinous turned out to be something that has always been with us and posed no threat. It kind of bothers me since it turns out I was believing in ideals that never really existed and was drawing my focus away from real problems our society faces.

Oddly enough I think the thing that changed my mind was furries. When I first found out about them I wasn't really bothered by them, but I could see they were reviled by many. As I got to know more about them I realized that they were *gasp* normal people. I think it was at that point I started to wonder if other things I had thought of as being "morally questionable" were really that bad. I guess what I found out is that by and large, I had been looking at things wrong. The worst part of it is, is that this whole time I've been part of a group that is looked down upon and hated by certain people.

In the end I've been given a lot to think about and I'm still turning a lot of it over in my head. When I see something new/different, I'm far more apt to give it a fair assessment before rendering an opinion and in the event I don't care for it, I have no desire to talk down, say it's wrong, and it should be banned/censored. I'm kind of tired while writing this, so I hope I made some sort of sense about whatever it is I'm trying to say (i.e. censoring/banning things based on morality isn't right and how I learned that).
Jewelwriter
6 years, 7 months ago
This kind of thing makes me really lose humanity's hope in the future...where you barely can do anything without being slapped with a censor bar.

" Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.


And I feel we'll never learn due to how little knowledge is spreading to us and the people who'd know in general.
ArtistaAF
6 years, 7 months ago
honestamente aun sigo sin entender como se supone que funciona eso del "Bondage voluntario" XD
darkzero779
6 years, 7 months ago
my grandparents want me to go to church and such for things like porn will "send me to hell" there good people, and i love them really.but I choose what i am now.I dont want to be int the bible, but im no atheist.God gave me a reason to be born at all.
And im not a fan of cub, but i dont go agianst anyone who love it, but i am a perve, for once ill admitit.but still I AGREE with you guys here, its annoying, and absurd.I cant even try to draw a pornpic i i want to, without this crap.Fuck the censorship,i want to draw what i want, but they hold us back..hypocrites.my grandparents dont like me on this stuf, but i cant change their minds either way.so the can believe whatever they want
TimerRabbit
6 years, 7 months ago
Wow. I don't know if I have time to read the wall of comments, but BB do have a point there... Even nude (artistic) people jumped.

People... Are weird these days, ne?
PeachClover
6 years, 7 months ago
I begin to fear the world is heading for a crash.
subhogue
6 years, 7 months ago
they are all just a bunch of hipocrites and the like. they are like those people who rage quit from a game....."yeah  biacth i'm winning..." {headshot you are losing} "ahh you SOB i'm going get the f'ing law after you..." *disconnects
...now reading over  that i don't think my example is all that clear... but you know, i wonder how  many times a porn site has been accessed from the white house...would be interesting to find out........
(i just  realized that this whole post makes little sense....Go adhd and typing!!!)
Hebiyoujo
6 years, 6 months ago
It's all building up to come crushing down. Trust me. All things come to an end. We're passing threw an era of stupid, but soon it will end.
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