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Karmandel

Transsexuality is real and valid

Of course it is. Don't let anyone tell you different.

I'm sad that it's gotten to the point where people like me need to post in support of transpeople on here, but there it is. Though I hope it has been clear from my other activities on this site that I have never had negative opinions about transsexuality, that is no longer enough.

Transsexuality is NOT a delusion
Transsexuality is NOT a mental illness
Transsexuality is NOT something people pretend to get attention

Each individual transperson KNOWS that one gender is wrong for them and another is right, and that they need to be the right gender to be happy. I know transpeople personally, and I know this to be the truth.

And as it says in the US Declaration of Independence:
" We hold these truths to be sacred & undeniable; that all men are created equal & independent, that from that equal creation they derive rights inherent & inalienable, among which are the preservation of life, & liberty, & the pursuit of happiness.
I have nothing to add to that.

EDIT: So far after posting this I've been unwatched by four people (and watched by one). Sadly I don't know if this relatively small number reflects general support or apathy.
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Added: 6 years, 8 months ago
 
eonzeetyphlosion
6 years, 8 months ago
I don't think it's a delusion, or a grab for attention (in all cases. There are of course some individuals who are just in it for attention, but they are a small percentage).
I do, however, believe it is a mental *illness is not the word I'm looking for, but I can't think of it right now* because being born as something, and then genuinely believing you are not that thing, to the point you get surgery to become the other thing, is definitely not how a normal mind functions, though maybe this is just because I'm "uneducated". For those who truly are transgender, it's not necessarily a problem, I have no hatred for them, and hatred towards anyone for such a thing is asinine, but today's culture promoting it as a normal thing, to the point where people are having/allowing their children, actual children, undergo gender reassignment is ridiculous. Or "oh, you can't name your baby that or use gender nouns because they don't understand gender and need to pick it for themselves" is total bullshit. If an individual is born one way, and then after they become an adult decide that they either want to be the other gender or undergo therapy or whathaveyou, that's their decision.

I guess I just hate the normalization of it. Transgender is only becoming more common now because of society now accusing straight/cis individuals of things. Now the youth who are straight might be experiencing the thoughts that they're the outliers, they're the strange ones for not thinking they're something they're not. I'm not saying it is happening, but it might be.

I do not hate nor do I condemn the individual, but the culture growing around it.
Stumpycoon
6 years, 8 months ago
Well said.
Blackraven2
6 years, 8 months ago
Funny you should quote that

"""We hold these truths to be sacred & undeniable; that all men are created equal & independent"""

One could be mean and say "It says nothing of women here", which is funnily enough exactly the reason why women weren't even allowed to vote throughout the whole of the united states until 1920.

Maybe the better text to quote from would be the un charta of human rights, as it doesn't differentiate by gender or sex at all.

However, the US declaration of independence was one of the first times ever humanitarian rights were put into a countries defining text, its a front runner of freedom as such, but as an early attempt it did a lot of mistakes where later constitutions did better, and in some cases it didn't dare yet to go far enough - which only makes sense in a historic context, but its also a reminder that a constitution isn't a holy bible set in stone. it should be a living text that needs to be reevaluated, adapted, and corrected in practice and interpretation - as done in 1920 when women were allowed to vote, or in 2015 when the supreme court voted in favor of gay marriage.


Genetic sex and physiological sex is not always the same. One can have two X chromosomes, and due to hormone imbalance in the womb, still be born with a dick - or the other way around.

Physiological sex is also not the same as gender. One can be born with one sex and still identify as the other gender, which is a difficult situation to be in, as you are in conflict with your own body.

But the most annoying since unnecessary part is the mismatch between sex/gender and the gender roles defined by society.

This goes alongside a lot of mistreatment and discrimination against one sex/gender or another. Theres the whole issue of the payment gap between women and men. Expectation of what one should do or should not do, how one should or should not socialize, ...

Alongside discrimination against those who don't fit the predefined roles. Either because they are transgender, or even if they are not but defy the behaviour model society has assigned their gender.

I think one latest outgrowth of this is a discrimination against those who defy society's gender roles by calling them "transgender" when they are not. This is both unfair towards people who are transgender, as well as those who are merely objecting to societies predefined standards.

If a girl prefers to play with cars and computers or plays in the mud with the boys instead of playing with ponies and dolls or likes going shopping with other teenagers, that doesn't make her transgender, merely a tomboy.

Calling that girl "transgender" and "helping" her deal with her "condition" is being doubly discriminative. It discriminates against a human beings free will and right to express herself as much as an entire group, who is branded as "those" as if being transgender was a disease or a genetic mutation.

And I dare say, some who are pro transgender rights are sometimes overjealous and actually deepen that gap, over emphasizing the differences in order to shame discrimination, when the right thing would be to accept these things as normal and eliminate the perception of "being different"

I don't think there is such a thing as 100% transgender, the same way noone is ever 100% pleased with his own body.
If someone prefers hiding their masculinity and dress and act as one of the opposite sex, they shouldn't be seen as a freak by society, but neither should they be seen as a traitor or outcast by other transgender if they do find a girlfriend and end up going to a dance in a tuxedo just only ONCE.

Anyone's personality has male and female aspects, - men and women are nearly identical anyway.

I would say, stop trying to conform to perceived roles. be it male, female or that of the "typical transgender"
also, stop trying to expect and force those roles unto others. All that ever does is create suffering, noone ever fits the role society tries to force them into.
IsabelleUrsaga
6 years, 8 months ago
That was very well said.
Karmandel
6 years, 8 months ago
Well the thing about gender in the declaration of independence is because of its age, I decided it would just sidetrack the post to say anything about it. I would have used the UN declaration too, but it actually doesn't have the pursuit of happiness phrase.

And of course nothing is ever 100%, and forcing people into a trans box that doesn't fit them is just as wrong as forcing them into a cis/binary box, but I see many more people doing the latter so those are the ones I want to speak out against.
IsabelleUrsaga
6 years, 8 months ago
Thank you for speaking up like this, Karmandel. It really means a lot.
Lamia
6 years, 8 months ago
" Transsexuality is NOT something people pretend to get attention

HOHOHOHO if only this were true

seriously though speaking as a transperson the majority of transpeople are seriously whiny and self-centered, don't lose any sleep over it if they're giving you a hard time

as far as my own philosophy on the matter, gender is a social construct, and that influences how you look at yourself, how you believe others will look at you, and how the general people will see and understand you based on appearance

that's all there is to it really, and I can say I'm not satisfied with how I appear; my ideal appearance is not like how I see myself in the mirror, or hear myself speak, or notice myself act

and frankly, I don't think the baby-making junk you carry has anything to do with all that nonsense, but if it helps someone to change it, then whatever
ArielCelestia
6 years, 8 months ago
Where did that come from Mandel? Do you personally wish to be a Transssexual, or just support them? Does this has something to do with that silly US case?
Karmandel
6 years, 8 months ago
No I'm a totally heterosexual cisgendered middleaged first world overweight diabetic male, about one standard deviation taller than average. I could just shut up and enjoy the privilege.

But many people I value on here are transpeople and have been severely hurt by a lack of support recently -- I don't know if that's the US case you refer to -- so I'm doing my bit to rectify that.

KazuKohi
6 years, 8 months ago
Thank you for your support <3
Skunket
6 years, 8 months ago
Thank you so much too
MSTR
6 years, 8 months ago
The way I look at it is this: Gender dysphoria is a mental illness (you're born in the wrong body for your brain), and gender reassignment is the only effective form of therapy for it (since it's a lot easier to alter external appearance to match your brain than the other way around).

As for the attention-grabbing thing: I think it's a logical consequence of what trans-people go through. You never fit in, you're always awkward and everything feels wrong. Many trans folks who haven't figured things out for themselves yet come across as extreme introverts because their internal conflict just tears them apart.

So when you do figure things out? When you suddenly end up in an identity that you can actually 100% feel comfortable with?

Damn right you're going to shout it from the rooftops.
Karmandel
6 years, 8 months ago
Well, 'mental' is a loaded word, and I think it is best to avoid it when there are sides in the polemic who are ready to pounce on it and go 'see they are just sick in the head and we don't need to listen to them'. I'm nearsighted myself and can't operate without glasses -- technically that's an illness too, but I hope at some time in the future gender dysphoria will be treated just as undramatically as myopia.

I get you on the attention grabbing thing. My daughter dated a transboy at one point, and he was nice and charming and so on, but some of the time he was also a self-centered entitled whiny little snot. But as you say, that was probably the result of his dysphoria growing up, not the cause.
MSTR
6 years, 8 months ago
Let me put things into perspective there. I have a mental illness (depression and anxiety disorders), a neurological disorder (ADHD) and I'm on the autistic spectrum.

I agree it's a loaded word, but the only way I or anybody else in the same boat will ever be taken seriously is if we manage to UN-load it and talk about it as openly as possible.
Karmandel
6 years, 8 months ago
Exactly!
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doe
6 years, 8 months ago

 Thank you for this journal.  Respect.
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