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MrHuggles

Ophiuchus and ancienct astrology

After seeing several journals on FA (a year ago) about this ordeal with the new zodiac, Ophiuchus, I think I should explain some things about how this new zodiac plays a role in western astrology.  Technically, Ophiuchus is not a new zodiac; it’s a very old one.  Modern astrologers (in the last several hundred years or more) removed it from the common zodiac since it didn't fit in with the idea of one zodiac for one month.  It’s thought that the ancient Greeks used all 13 but there's no conclusive evidence to prove it (mostly just guessing and speculation).  There’s a long history with Ophiuchus as a zodiac that has been added and removed as people saw it as controversial from time-to-time.  I’m trying to personally figure out how to fit it into the normal 12 zodiac (but have found available research material very short coming).  I think one reason why it's excluded is because it doesn't truly line up with the other zodiacs; its position is off the side a little.  The zodiac is given prominence because it is the same path that the sun and moon trace in the sky.  If a constellation falls out of that path then it's not a zodiac.

Another hard thing to figure out is what to do about the astral wheel formed out of the 12 zodiac.  In the wheel each zodiac is given its own section (called a house) that correlates with a specific aspect of life.  Each house has its opposite (like house 6 being for physical health, and house 12 being for mental health).  Each house is also given its qualitative assignment of passive or active (similar to yin and yang).  Along with this is how the 4 elements (earth, wind, fire, water) are evenly divided up into 3 groupings of 4 houses (cardinal, fixed, and mutable).  These are assigned in a cycle pattern throughout the wheel so that if you start with a fixed sign and proceed in any direction you will eventually return to where you started and also be assigning the same "fixed" sign to that house (given you follow the pattern of fixed, then mutable, then cardinal, and then back to fixed or the reverse of this).  The entire method of divining with astrology is formed around symmetry and if you were to have an odd number of zodiacs you would destroy the symmetry.  If Ophiuchus is an original zodiac, then there must also be another zodiac to act as the 14th.  I am not sure what this 14th zodiac could be since there are many possible constellations.  The true answer to the question of why there exists the zodiac of Ophiuchus may lie in the planets axis tilt and human history.

Despite what mainstream archeology and historians want you to consider to be human, and other, history there is actually insurmountable evidence that proves human’s had advanced society long before the Neolithic age (starting around 10,000 B.C.E.).  There are ruins of civilizations dating back before 15,000 B.C.E. that not only can match our modern cities in structure, but in some cases surpass our current architectural abilities.  There is even mounting evidence to support the claim that ancient Egyptian society is not five thousand years old, but tens of thousands of years old; dating back anywhere from around 25,000 B.C.E. to 35,000 B.C.E.  According to all of these new and highly controversial archeological evidence modern humans are a much older species than we have been led to believe.  And if human civilization is as old as forty thousand years, then it is entirely possible that earlier human civilizations (who certainly had an equal or superior knowledge of astrology and astronomy) viewed the sky when the planet was at a different tilt in its axis and thus could have viewed the night sky to have different constellations or zodiacs.  This would also help explain why the ancient Chinese zodiac is formed out of different animals with the dragon being the superior constellation (the body of the constellation Draco contains the star, Thuban, that would be the North Star when the earth is at a different tilt in axis 4,700 years ago).
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Jimbear
6 years, 7 months ago
"And if human civilization is as old as forty thousand years, then it is entirely possible that earlier human civilizations (who certainly had an equal or superior knowledge of astrology and astronomy) viewed the sky when the planet was at a different tilt in its axis and thus could have viewed the night sky to have different constellations or zodiacs."

This sentence here reminds me about the ancient Mayans and how they developed their own systems of math, astrology and astronomy as well.  I wonder, what are your thoughts on their calender which supposedly predicts the end of the world?  Does it predict the end of the world, the end of current civilization, a change, or something, or could it simply mean when the calender starts over and nothing more?  I'm very interested to know this. :)

Great read by the way.  I always learn so much when reading your stuff.
MrHuggles
6 years, 7 months ago
i'm going to shift my talk of the mayans into a private message since it's not exactly on the topic of this journal and may go on for a long time.
Jimbear
6 years, 7 months ago
An excellent PM might I add. :)
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