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FoxiePanda

Just a Thought

Why do people justify the shitty things people do?
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Added: 6 years, 10 months ago
 
RallyReki
6 years, 10 months ago
nothing better to do or just trying to cope with things by trying to understand them even if it's not the correct answer.
mouse24
6 years, 10 months ago
or they just hide behind the "i am religious shield" shield to get away with being bigots
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
I hate when people do that.
mouse24
6 years, 10 months ago
it sucks but that is how it is, they have billboards every where here, several tv networks and claim to be highest rated shows, but some one calls there hypocrisy, they play the victim and claim they have no media voice
Wolfblade
6 years, 10 months ago
There's a difference between trying to understand someone's reasoning that led them to do something wrong, and simply saying that they did nothing wrong.

I think you're speaking of the former, but Foxie means the latter.
RallyReki
6 years, 10 months ago
I was mainly speaking of my own thoughts on recent problems I've been having, I'm not sure what the situation is here. I'm curious to know though.
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
What is it you've been going through? You can say it here, or through PM.
RallyReki
6 years, 10 months ago
just the regular bs life puts everyone through: people being ignorant, tiring family problems, and being bored out of my mind dealing with some jerks at work -_- tired of random people on the street trying to start a fight with me, still pissed about being mugged, tired of public transportation.

I've been dealing with so many ignorant people that think they have legitimate excuses for being assholes.
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
Ugh x_x So much to deal with *hugs*
RallyReki
6 years, 10 months ago
*hugs* it's fine =p
mouse24
6 years, 10 months ago
true, but i see it a lot were i am, so it usual the first thing i think, its sad, but here it usually the case
ps  sorry, this wasnt meant as a reply
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
It can always be one or the other. Mainly the latter option you mentioned. In particular, I mean when someone does something and people justify what they did or say it's perfectly okay, even if it is far from it.
RallyReki
6 years, 10 months ago
I hate that the most when people do something and think they are completely justified.
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
Some people just think they're holier than thou. And the people that want to kiss their asses will back them up.
RallyReki
6 years, 10 months ago
it seems there is plenty of both in this world, and most don't need to be here.
Thanatos
6 years, 10 months ago
In what context?
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
See my comment above.
Thanatos
6 years, 10 months ago
Moral superiority and indoctrinated back patting.

It's a systemic symptom of a populace that embraces bullies over nerds, sports over academia, belief over fact, conviction over peace.
Frynge
6 years, 10 months ago
this is the best take on this yet, methinks.  much agreed.  ...it's all very stupid to me...
BlackroseWriter
6 years, 10 months ago
Can you explain the question further because I might have an answer for that since something just happen to me tonight.
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
More or less a general question.
viviboi9
6 years, 10 months ago
idk how to answer this question TT.TT
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
It's a difficult one!
Tae
Tae
6 years, 10 months ago
To make themselves feel important by judging others. And what they do which no one really cares about.
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
Ass kissing is what it comes down to, more or less.
Tae
Tae
6 years, 10 months ago
Hell yeah. And dick riding, pussy eater, and plain pussy. PERIOD!!!! XD
TitusWolf
6 years, 10 months ago
I guess there is more than one side to everything, when people see wrong there could be a right side. But most people dont think that way and just want to argue to show everyone they are right...
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
That's pretty much it. In this situation, there is no right side to the wrong.
Eiko
6 years, 10 months ago
Money, religion, politics, for-the-lulz, general douchebaggery, because they are related to you, because they are NOT related to you, because they don't like the brand of deodorant you use, the list really goes on and on...
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
People can be so damn foolish at times.
mudpaws
6 years, 10 months ago
they don't know how to wipe their ass ,,  sorry   ,,  i run in to a lot of shit heads like this and it makes me sick they think that they can use religion and  other things  , i don't know but it will come back to haunt them one day  trust me >>:}
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
Well this isn't necessarily about religion. There's an underlying subject for me, but I'm mainly curious what people feel about this subject in general. No need to be sorry!
mudpaws
6 years, 10 months ago
what happened  ?_?  
HimaChita
6 years, 10 months ago
To make themselves feel better/justified at the shitty things they do. After all, it is human to spread around the shit we wallow in. Course, some of us try hard to rise above it, though we keep getting dragged down into it by others. *hugs*
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
There will always be someone out there to do something stupid and not get properly punished for what they did.
HimaChita
6 years, 10 months ago
That's why I try to believe in Karma, that the universe will get them back for us.
Shokuji
6 years, 10 months ago
[hugs] Yeah I don't know. Lately I keep finding myself in the company of people who don't turn out to be who they make themselves out to bed. Not sure what to do about it.
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
If you need any advice, feel free to message me. It can be hard sometimes.
Shokuji
6 years, 10 months ago
[hugs] Thanks, Foxie. I'm sorry for not messaging more. =/
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
You're welcome. And it's okay. *Hugs*
BlackroseWriter
6 years, 10 months ago
I don't understand the question but I can say this. I had to deal with someone I knew for so long that I wanted to be with lie to my face twice tonight and then try to justify themselves by making it look like the bad guy. To me what they did was wrong.
Gobby
6 years, 10 months ago
Because it serves their interests in some way.  Let's say you have two friends, one who is popular (A) and one who is an outcast (B).  The popular guy is a douchebag, and treats everyone like shit.  The outcast is a genuinely caring human being.  One day A does something awful to B.  When B asks you why you hang out with A, your response will illuminate your greater interests.  By staying with A, it is possible that you would be seen as part of the cool crowd, an enviable position in this imaginary scenario so you may end up trying to justify his actions to yourself and others to try to retain an illusion of decency.  Of course, if you're really in line with the abusive behavior you won't need to justify it, you'll just stop talking to B.  Rationalization like this happens when you have conflicting interests (do I want cool friends or good friends? ) and want to keep the status quo.
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
You hit it right on the mark. It's so annoying. x_x
FlynnRausch
6 years, 10 months ago
Well, here's my own situation and you guys be the judge.

I was in a hetero relationship for a long time and was desperately unhappy. I was getting no real emotionally support or sustenance in the relationship. I was more like a housekeeper and we slept in the same bed. Put someone in that situation, and no matter how good they are, they're going to cheat. I was a depressed wreck and losing hope and the will to live, so I found another reason to, even if it was at someone else's expense.

Nobody in my personal life is interested in my justification, though. Cheating is cheating, after all. But when it comes down to it, I did what I had to do to survive. Literally. I needed connection and companionship, so I went and got it. It's what I had to do. I was too financially dependant to walk out, so I made the best of a very bad situation. *shrug* I'm not proud of it, but sometimes we have to do an ugly thing to have a crack at a beautiful life.
Charn
6 years, 10 months ago
Rationalizing is a lot easier than self adjustment :)
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
I've seen it so many times. xD
cursedscythe
6 years, 10 months ago
Because if they don't like what they see, it's obviously a wrong thing to do.
nekkofox
6 years, 10 months ago
Well, everyone has their reasons. As Voltaire (the singer, not the philosopher) once said in 'God Thinks', he says quite plainly "I hate people who blame the devil for their own shortcomings and I hate people who thank God when things go right" because he thinks people who do that are misplacing their thanks and opinions onto a concept instead of taking responsibility for their own actions and roles and essentially are giving up their life to a fantasy. Other people justify shitty things that others do (or themselves) because they feel a need to defend that person, by some sense of misconstrued loyalty or honor. Others still do this only because they wish to play devil's advocate, merely to gauge reactions and stir up conversation (nothing new comes from preaching to the choir, as it were) while more groups of individuals simply enjoy creating a fuss because they enjoy the drama that it brings. Finally, there is the old adage that "every murderer thinks his victim needs killing" which is a straightforward way of saying that whoever did the shitty thing thought it needed to be done, even if their reasons are hackneyed or convoluted. A natural example of this is cats and mice. Cats eat mice, because they need to eat. They think the mice need killing. The mice, however, probably have a different opinion on the matter entirely. Perhaps you just need to take it from a different angle and think about the shitty thing that the person did and why they may have done it.  Even if you don't agree with it, you may at least grudgingly understand it. I hope that somewhat clears up your question
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
There's no justification for what was said. XD
nekkofox
6 years, 10 months ago
Well, you could always stab them in the dick.
Naki
6 years, 10 months ago
I'll never understand that myself honestly.  Other than it's just because so many people anymore are so stupid and just really don't think.  So no matter what they do, even if it's horribly wrong, they think it's right.  I've dealt with the type where I can completely prove them wrong, but they ignore everything I say just because of something stupid or another.  Though things like that is why I'm so tired of most people anymore.
FoxiePanda
6 years, 10 months ago
No one can think for themselves anymore.
Naki
6 years, 10 months ago
Yeah more or less, which is the sad part.
Jay1743
6 years, 10 months ago
A psychologist would tell you that it's a defense mechanism to prevent cognitive dissonance.

Long story short: Most everyone thinks of himself as being a good (un-evil) person. But if that person is doing bad things, he has to figure out a way to make his "I'm a good person" worldview jive with his behavior. Therefore, he must come up with reasons why his bad behavior isn't really bad. This process is called rationalization. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationalization_%28making...
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