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Jespah

People Leaving Inkbunny, wtf

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I heard someone else left the site recently. And i HEARD it was because of some trolling piece of shit going around being mean to cubs, trying to get them to leave. I have problems with this all around.

First of all, Inkbunny provides a good strong block system, from what i read. Block user, comments, PMs, delete all comments from the user, why are people leaving when they have so much power in their hands to stop. But moreso, why do people leave without explanation!? If someone is being a filthy shit to you, then block them, but if you have to leave, at least tell someone. You are being selfish if you won't at least tell someone the truth so that the moderators can stop it.

Secondly, if you treating people like shit because of something they like, please die. There's a lot of things in the world that i don't like but i keep it to MYSELF. You can jerk off to the most vile, destructable, despicable non-pornographic material out there, like genocide, and i wouldn't say anything to you, i'd just ignore you. It's that simple! Stop trolling! I cannot believe how many people can sleep, knowing what kind of a piece of crap, and a coward they are, being mean to people on the internet like some kind of champ.

I am confident that many of the people on this site are actively trying to make it a nice, pleasant place to be, where they won't be judged. For those that aren't actively trying to weed out trolls and other scumbags, please do your part! Remember their names, if you see it! Write a journal and spread the word! Contact an admin, and for the love of all that is holy, if someone has hurt you to the point that you need to leave the site, leave us with a message, or a name or something! Blaaaah

I don't know, whatever.  I just hate people that can't leave others alone, fucking bullies. It's too bad most of them hide on the internet
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Added: 7 years, 2 months ago
 
RallyReki
7 years, 2 months ago
Rally Ho~
*holds up a pitch fork and a torch* lets tar and feather the lit'al blodger!
=p angry lion is angry *hugs*
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
i'm pissed, esse
LupineAssassin
7 years, 2 months ago
"I just hate people that can't leave others alone, fucking bullies. It's too bad most of them hide on the internet." I'm a living witness. XD
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
yea i heard you were having some trouble. i cannot post everything i'd like to do if i ever met some of these pieces of shit but i at least want to make sure that every time they surface, they get weeded out and banned for life
LupineAssassin
7 years, 2 months ago
It'd be nice if (and that's a BIG if) my ban gets lifted for my 40th birthday. Would mean a lot. If you've heard or read the garbage I've had to go through over the past 3 years, you'll see I'm a true survivor.
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
i read the journal you posted about your run in with those two pieces of shit, the ones you moved in with. Trust me I'm with you there. If you mean your ban on FA, then... well good luck i guess, but... do you really wanna go back there? That place is a cesspool for trollers and haters. You'd be better off devoting your time to trying to make this place better and let FA rot
LupineAssassin
7 years, 2 months ago
Granted, but that wrong needs to be righted somehow. Not just for me, but for others who were wrongfully banned.
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
I understand. And i hope you do get that resolved. I just can't bring myself to feel anything but bad feelings for FA now. I mean... cub isn't exactly my life, i rarely if ever draw it but i have cub friends and that was the straw that broke the camel's back. When you started alienating a group of people on an entire site.. idk. Blah i'm sorry, please don't think i am trying to tell you what to do about it o.o I hope those wrongs are made right
LupineAssassin
7 years, 2 months ago
*hug*
KushHeadFievel
7 years, 2 months ago
No matter where you go, someone someplace will have some sort of problem with someone else.
I saw some of your comment replies, and I agree, let FA rot. At one time, it was claimed by Dragoneer himself, that the Cub Porn ban was only just rumor. He deletes stuff even him himself posts, and then claims it was never posted in the first place.
People really need to grow up.
As if certain things with me are grown up yet, parts of me are as young as 2, but can still do certain stuff.
It's always best to not let things bother you, even if it is depressing in sorts.

Live, learn, forgive and forget. <3
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
I dunno i wish i could be as pacified as that. I used to not care if it didn't involve me. Because you are right there will always be trolls. But it strikes me that there are some people who don't handle it that way, they don't deserve the treatment and it affects them in different ways than you or me. We might do something about it, but they get hurt. And i finally just feel like i needed to say something, and maybe keep saying something.

There's always going to be hateful people. But we need to alienate them, instead of letting them alienate us.
KushHeadFievel
7 years, 2 months ago
" I dunno i wish i could be as pacified as that. I used to not care if it didn't involve me. Because you are right there will always be trolls. But it strikes me that there are some people who don't handle it that way, they don't deserve the treatment and it affects them in different ways than you or me. We might do something about it, but they get hurt. And i finally just feel like i needed to say something, and maybe keep saying something.

Trolls will always exist, inside and outside the fandom.
Some people's feelings get harmed faster then others, but the way I am, I'll come right out with something... if I really care.
Hurtful or not, if I feel someone needs to hear it... I won't just say what they want to hear. (That's Dishonest.)

" There's always going to be hateful people. But we need to alienate them, instead of letting them alienate us.

I try to be like my buddy Fievel there, just shrug with an unhappy look, and try to move on.
So it's wrong to wish I could be with Fievel, but the least I could do, is try to be more like him in many ways. <3
Nick2Shy
7 years, 2 months ago
it's always sad when people leave over trolling of any kind but you are right, it's frustrating if nobody else get to know why 'cause that way, no one has a clue and the troll can keep on doing what trolls do
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
yea... that's kind of why i decided to make a journal. Just needs to stop >.<;
Nick2Shy
7 years, 2 months ago
*nods eagerly*
bencoon
7 years, 2 months ago
We like to encourage people to use the block and ban features whenever you like. If somebody insists on seeking ways to get around the private ban within inkbunny, then they are subject to administrative action.
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
that was the point of my journal. If blocking doesn't work, someone needs to seek out an admin to fix the problem. I don't know what the policy is on trolling but a no tolerance outlook would be the best way. No one should be leaving this site due to trolling, if the admins are doing their jobs and putting a stop to it, as long as they are asking for help from those admins.

I like Inkbunny and i don't want to see this turning into another FA, where the admins play favorites, and take advantage of their position.
bencoon
7 years, 2 months ago
Unfortunately, we can not be everywhere and see everything as it happens, as we are, ultimately, still people with jobs and obligations outside Inkbunny. If there is an issue between other users that can't be resolved with a simple block/ban, then it needs to be brought to our attention by the parties in question.
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
yes i think you are still missing the point of my journal. I did put all the responsibility to the people of this site, not the admins. I said (again) that they should not be leaving the site without saying something, if its from trolling. I said that they should seek out admins. I said that when it is brought to the admins attention, there should be no debate, a no-tolerance policy on trolling. I said that everyone on this site, should be doing their part to inform others of known trolls, or people that harrass others and that admins should be informed.

I am not, however, saying that admins are gods that know everything, and i never said you were not doing your job as the admins. I don't think you are reading the journal clearly, or my comments.
bencoon
7 years, 2 months ago
Sorry, my initial response apparently wasn't that clear. I was agreeing and merely expanding on your comment.
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
Okay then I'm sorry. I was under the impression you were trying to defend admins, which is fine, obviously. I felt like you got the impression that i was attacking you by saying you weren't doing your jobs. Sorry.
bencoon
7 years, 2 months ago
S'all okay. Though I have to say, it is frustrating when that happens, on inkbunny or other sites. :/
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
I came to Inkbunny because of the cub ban in FA. Normally that would not bother me, because its not my whole world but i took it as a stab at artistic freedom. I didn't care what the excuse was, or anything, i'm stubborn like that. When i came here and read about the site i felt like this place had the potential to be far better than FA. Free artistic expression, free from trolls. I don't want to be an admin, but i really wanna make sure no one i care about gets attacked by those people.

Sorry, i wrote a lot. It is frustrating though.
bencoon
7 years, 2 months ago
We try to do our best here!
Shokuji
7 years, 2 months ago
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
omg i hate when people do that @_@ leave one link -.- i actually said that at the very top of this journal's comments
Shokuji
7 years, 2 months ago
Yeah. I contacted them on FA and they said that life was rough for them and they couldn't keep up on multiple sites. I don't understand why that means they needed to remove all their art on here in the process (as I figure taking art down would take more time than leaving it up). Probably had other reasons they didn't want to tell me, who knows. Either way it's a little annoying when that happens. c.c
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
well whatever the reason it was their choice and i hope it was the right one for them. i agree that it seems like it would be more tedious to take everything down like that... but whatever. i just wanted to address the rumor of trollings. be it true in this case or not. I dont know the person.. like.. at all, i spoke to him on one picture on FA a long time ago but i was looking for more art aaaaand now that won't happen. Actually seems silly to me that he would choose to stay there... where cub is pretty much cause for witch burnings now.. and not here where it seems to be the life of the party o.o;
Shokuji
7 years, 2 months ago
Well our party is getting bigger by the day, but it's still just a house compared to their block party. =x One thing that FA will have going for it for a while is traffic. I'm not sure just how much more, but it's quite a bit (if the stats on wikifur are correct). Then again, they've been online for over 6 years now, and they're not really a furry website when you consider you can post just about anything there. In fact they're less of a furry website now that they've banned cubs. o.o;
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
i agree. and yea they have been around for a while. Thing is i don't understand what they are trying to be. You can post almost anything but you cannot post certain things... like they are trying to be furry.. i mean i've seen people go there to post stuff who aren't furries xP

iunno... i don't think about them anymore and i'm pretty sure i would punch dragoneer if i ever met him xP which doesn't seem to difficult since i am pretty sure he goes to AC and I LIVE RIGHT THERE DRAGONEER!!!
Shokuji
7 years, 2 months ago
Don't punch him. X3 That guy is demonized so badly all of the time. I think it's the other admins & mods that make him look really bad all of the time. LIke I don't think he decided on his own to add that recent controversial thing that tracked user's buying habits w/o their consent. Also it seems like a few of the mods on FA are complete tools and cause more problems than a mod ever should.
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
maybe. i only know his name though but i think i would punch them all anyway. i was under the impression that he more or less is in charge of the goings on in that site. If so he should be doing something about it instead of letting it go. but that's my opinion. i also had an issue with him at furfright 06, if it was him. It was a long time ago and it may not have been him but if it was him, he was spreading some pretty mean rumous about the baby/cub furs that were pissing me off. I am not a cub but my friend was and i spent a lot of time with him and his friends that weekend and knew they weren't true
Shokuji
7 years, 2 months ago
Lots of people say stuff about things they don't understand or are told not to like. Those kind of people are always going to be out there and there's not much we can do about it. What's worse in my opinion is those who actually listen to those kinds of people rather than forming their own opinion based on facts & logic. But that's conformity for you, most people will form an opinion after they hear the same thing 3 times (be it from 3 different people or 3 times from the same person). All any of us can do is prove them wrong by just being happy and enjoying ourselves. =3
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
Yea i guess. No question there, there's always assholes. But i hold people accountable for their ignorance. Information is not hard to find these days. I used to hate furries and look at me now. The thing is that none of US can change any of THEM. They have to be the ones who want to know the truth. So sometimes someone like me has to punch someone like them in the teeth so at least they think twice about opening their mouth again xP

Sorry that is just my stand point on it. I'm pretty aggressive about stuff. I don't like to tolerate idiots :P whether it was dragoneer, and if not, then that is my mistake, but if it was indeed him, then he's both a tool and a liar and it's another reason to introduce myself =)
Shokuji
7 years, 2 months ago
You used to hate furries? Care to talk about that a bit? =o
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
lol yea, i also used to hate gays xD

idk i was just a dumb teen. i hated everything and everyone and i was avoided  getting involved with people, groups, anything that involved interaction with another human. And with that mindset, coupled with the fact that i was raised to think that i was supposed to be straight (also that its popular for children to pick on one another by calling them faggot, gay, homo, what have you) i also was pretty hardened to the concept of being gay. Buuuut i was lying to myself about all that. I was a furry at heart, i loved animals, i even wrote stories about animal people before i knew what a furry was, and i played with other boys a lot when i was young and liked it more than i wanted to believe xP Well anyway yea, that's what happened... how i accepted those are another story xD
Shokuji
7 years, 2 months ago
I hope you can tell me that story one day. =3
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
well that's easy too xD i just thought you wanted to hear the first one =p

i moved back into my parents house around 18 and started using the internet more. i got tied up with the lion king fandom and ended up making friends who i actually connected with for a change. and some of them liked boys and i ended up accepting it pretty easily. I guess i just needed to connect with some first (also i was in a pretty dark state, darker than usual, drinking myself stupid frequently and trying to figure out what i was missing that was making me feel so empty). So actually accepting my sexuality and going furry both went hand in hand. my first boyfriend was not a furry, per se. just a TLK fan. But we broke up pretty badly and i ran away, so to speak, from everyooooone i knew and  ended up washing ashore in the furry community xP boyfriend after boyfriend xD until now... but anyway yea. first went furry then i realized there was no way i was ever going to trade a boy for a girl again and told my mother happy ending
Shokuji
7 years, 2 months ago
I'd like to hear both stories, but thanks for explaining one. =3 [hugs]
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
actually those were both the stories xD there aren't many details to have. I came out when i was in a hospital for depression, some chick thought i was hot and i told her i was gay xD

and i became furry when i started meeting people that were crossing over between the TLK fandom and the furry fandom, i eventually severed all ties with one and ended up in the other =p
Shokuji
7 years, 2 months ago
Had no idea they were that different (furry vs TLC). o.o;
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
well i cannot make that judgment anymore, but they used to be. In every way they were the same. You have a fursona, but they don't call it fursona, and they still yiff but they they didn't call it yiffing. Lots of TLK fan claimed they weren't furries but if you look now, most of them ended up in the fandom. Furries just get a bad rep and most people who aren't directly furry don't like to admit they are furry :P
JakeSilverwing
7 years, 2 months ago
wow.
lotsa fun stuff going on here 9u9
short story.
Don't treat others the way you wouldn't like to be treated. and if you can't, don't associate with them.
all quiet simple *Adjusts a monocle*
Jespah
7 years, 2 months ago
also if you can't, don't complain if you make enemies! =D Like you scriggles butt out D=
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