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FlyingFox

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this is what im talking about right here https://inkbunny.net/submissionview.php?id=129044
. this crap sketch is currently in the popular section, its posted in scraps even. I really think its a problem :(
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Added: 12 years, 8 months ago
 
Thanatos
12 years, 8 months ago
Don't alert your watchers next time!
FlyingFox
12 years, 8 months ago
! but that kinda makes posting it obsolete then, I would still like feedback, but without hogging a spot in the popular section, this drawing litterally took 10 min.
Thanatos
12 years, 8 months ago
But! Those that truly appreciate your art will browse your scraps section :D
FlyingFox
12 years, 8 months ago
nah they will rage at my rant journals and -watch me :P
Thanatos
12 years, 8 months ago
Well the only thing to do now is draw a Shrubbery.
esanhusky
12 years, 8 months ago
NEE!
Sakkano
12 years, 8 months ago
Why do you think it's crap? I think it's good for what it is, and much better than anything I could make.
OrionDalmation
12 years, 8 months ago
Its a public art domain, anyone can post stuff here. Its not your problem to complain about.
I have nothing against you and am not trying to cause problems, thats just the truth of the matter.
FlyingFox
12 years, 8 months ago
you can actually submit suggestion tickets to the development team, so yeah I have the rights to rant.
OrionDalmation
12 years, 8 months ago
Not to be rude, but that is all it is. A rant.
Nobody really cares or thinks anything of it. Because as i said, public art domain, those people have as much of a right to submit their work than you do.
FlyingFox
12 years, 8 months ago
um, you do know its my own sketch I linked to right.
OrionDalmation
12 years, 8 months ago
I didnt realise that,  didnt look properly, I just presumed it was someone elses work.
A) Because i saw you moanin about it in a previous journal.
B) Because i dont know why someone would slag their own art off :P
FlyingFox
12 years, 8 months ago
to ensure that people dont see it as an attack on others art :x
+ I still think its stupid this can make it into popular.
OrionDalmation
12 years, 8 months ago
It just sounds like you're trying to JUSTIFY an attack on other peoples art.  tut tut.
FlyingFox
12 years, 8 months ago
cmon now your just trolling me -.-
OrionDalmation
12 years, 8 months ago
Im not trolling you at all. Dont exaggerate, im just offering my opinion based on what i see infront of me. I do not know you, i have never spoken t you, i have no reason to troll you in the slightest.
All i see here is you complaining about other peoples art being in the popular section. And then making your own art to have it sit in the same section, replying with "To ensure that people dont see it as an attack on other peoples art" Which, in all honesty, seems to me like you are attacking other peoples art, and are trying to justify it by creating your submission to soften any blows.
Thats all.
FlyingFox
12 years, 8 months ago
well what I am attacking, is actually that pictures from the scrap section can make it into the popular section, and I think they shouldnt, just like they dont show up in the recent section.
OrionDalmation
12 years, 8 months ago
I just wanted to make a quick point, this is givin me a headache now.. =[
FlyingFox
12 years, 8 months ago
sorry -.-
OrionDalmation
12 years, 8 months ago
No problem at all, it's really no biggie, is it ^^  *reaches over and rubs your ears* <3
InsecureFlaky
12 years, 8 months ago
.......
FlyingFox
12 years, 8 months ago
what? :x
InsecureFlaky
12 years, 8 months ago
I support Thanatos Idea... Thats all

I just cant find why somebody actually complaints for having a picture, whatever it is on populars

it is not about the system itself, its about the people, Peeps make pics popular, thats all >=/
Rally
12 years, 8 months ago
Don't read too much into it. I've had pics make the Popular section with less than 100 views. Think of it more as the Random section since every refresh produces a new set of pictures, and they will only appear for 3 days after they're posted anyway.
Shokuji
12 years, 8 months ago
^ This.
Shokuji
12 years, 8 months ago
I think agree with you on the part where things put into scraps shouldn't be on the popular board. You've already submitted a ticket though, so we'll just have to wait till the next update on that one. =3
Tweaker
12 years, 8 months ago
It's a sketch. People liked it and paid attention to it. What the hell is the problem?

Your standards do not dictate the actions or preferences of this website. Stop trying to introduce policy that aims to do exactly that. It's annoying, it's pretentious and it misrepresents the popular feed by adding unspoken conditions to how it works.

The Popular section is for popular submissions. It's not a section specifically for finished works. Get over it. This is getting ridiculous.
FlyingFox
12 years, 8 months ago
I just want a function that makes it possible to exclude a pic you upload from the Popular section, is that so bad? Or ridiculous?
Im not talking about the standards of pictures or sketches or anything. I might have to be more specific when posting journals, because most people seem to get the wrong ideas here.
C0baltblaze
12 years, 8 months ago
>>implying scraps are a submission file

have you noticed how FA has its submissions its a system similar to this site though this site has a larger expansion to sumitting things.
 so  scraps are basically artwork you either do not wish to be shown on the front page or do not find satisfactory enough hence why its called scraps, i don't see you faving a scrap piece of paper :P just thought id put this here, not trying to start a fight just trying to show you how wrong you are.
RedPandaRolo
12 years, 8 months ago
If scraps were artwork that you didn't really wish to be shown or find unworthy...why upload them at all?
C0baltblaze
12 years, 8 months ago
sometimes scraps are good to look back on just enough to memorize maybe improve what you messed up on or failed at. its why I do scraps when I upload. but it depends verily.
Tweaker
12 years, 8 months ago
Scraps are also treated as submissions like anything else submitted to the site. Yes, it's not representative of your best work from your own perspective, but the Popular section isn't expressing your opinion on your own art--it's expressing everyone else's opinions on your art. 5000 views and 700 favorites on a sketch can say fuckloads more than "I spent an hour on this and there's so many issues with it."

Your own personal standards aren't being met, but the cool thing about subjectivity is that it doesn't matter what your own standards are--the section works based on cold, hard data. It works purely based on user response. Everything else is completely irrelevant. If your concern is that works aren't developed enough and they shouldn't be showcased, especially if they're your own, don't submit them to the site. Period.

I'm sorry, but this position is literally non-defensible. If these subjectively-defined "scraps" were legitimately bad on some sort of objective level, people would either not pay attention to them or they would leave negative comments on them. They're not; in fact, they're doing the exact opposite, hence their inclusion on the popular section. What you feel about your own art doesn't matter. It does its job. That doesn't need to change.
C0baltblaze
12 years, 8 months ago
thats true but sometimes it can still cause problems for some, like here for instance.
Makogrey
12 years, 8 months ago
ah ok seen worse on the main page
xxmilesxx
12 years, 8 months ago
oh my god, i hate that artist, honestly he just keeps talking and talking. So annoying.
FlyingFox
12 years, 8 months ago
yeah wtf is up with that? artist should just stfu and produce art for the masses right? :P
GreenPika
12 years, 8 months ago
wait, you're complaining that your sketches are on the most popular list? o.O
C0baltblaze
12 years, 8 months ago
i think you are over reacting a bit on the image making it, but again its you're artwork you do have the right.

 but here's a suggestion, take this as a form of flattery that people don't care if you made a piece that was imperfect and just really enjoyed it.
esanhusky
12 years, 8 months ago
Eventually you just get numb to what the masses gobble up like gourmet treats.  Really, it's like being hit with a 2X4 once too often, it just...stops mattering.
Flygon
12 years, 8 months ago
Perhaps there's just not enough male egglaying being drawn, and there is huge demand for it?
BunnyFoxglove
12 years, 8 months ago
Please understand, it's the most popular pieces from the last 3 days.... it's not like it's going to stay there longer then 3 days. So who cares.... the fact is you have a lot of watches for a reasons, so you pics will make it there regardless what you post. They see you post something, so they click on it to see what it is. It's not like they said, "Hey this pic is good let me click this mysterious magical button that throws my vote on it making it's way into the popular section."

There's only really like 2 real solutions for this:
1) they put an extra check box for the poster to disable it from being allowed entry into the popular section, or
2) they add a button on new submissions that viewers can click to vote for it during the first 3 days.

Personally I don't see an issue with it since unless you post 100 pics there's gonna be lots of other pics in that section randomly popping up.
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