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AlexReynard

What The Fuck, FA!?

Is it any wonder I react to the admins of FurAffinity with bewildered outrage mixed with disgust?

I just got this message:

Your account has been temporarily suspended for the following reason:

You reuploaded AUP violating images before you even finished appealing.

You also uploaded part of a mature photo (one containing human waste).

The suspension will be lifted after the amount of time specified below.
0000.00.04 23:35:30


Number one: The images in question did NOT violate the AUP IN ANY WAY, which is precisely why I reuploaded them. Also, the reason why I did not wait to reupload them was because it's been FIVE DAYS since any admin's said a word to me about the incident! I was under the mistaken impression that, since no one said anything for three days after I reuploaded the non-violating images, that there was no problem.

Number two: It took me about half an hour to figure out what "part of a mature photo containing human waste" meant. They meant this image here. I'd completely forgotten about it. And allright, it's got poop in it, fair enough. I had no idea poop was against the rules there. <shrug> Though what I want to know is, why are the admins having a problem with this now, when I uploaded it in goddamn February!?

This marks the umpteenth time that I have been punished for something that I did months or years prior. The images some myopic admin thought were cub porn (this one and this one, BTW) had been on the site for I literally don't know how long. There is ACTUAL CUB PORN still in my gallery that they still haven't touched, despite threatening to. Yet they want to bust my balls for images that don't break their damn rules!? For crying out loud, is it too much to ask that, if they're going to have a problem with me, that it be for something that I've actually done? And at least within the current week or so!?

I stay on FurAffinity for two reasons. One, there's people who still haven't moved here that I like. Two, because to leave would make the admins' jobs easier. And they don't deserve that. What they deserve is someone like me, who will throw the tantrums that need to be thrown when they abuse their bloated amounts of power, commit inexcusable errors, do their job sloppily, and in general treat the site's users with patronizing contempt.

An admin once told me why he doesn't give people warnings about submissions, or allow any kind of defense. Because "It's quicker and easier to just delete them. Users usually don't comply with takedown requests/demands." So that makes it okay to not even try. How convenient.

I do not think the admins are evil, mean people. But I am absolutely convinced that they lack any kind of organization, and that they would rather do what's easy than what's right.

Great. Now I get to lie in bed and not get any sleep tonight because my brain won't relax and stop thinking about how pissed off it makes me to be treated like a child by people who are massively unqualified for the jobs they hold. Thanks, FA. Thanks a whole hell of a lot...



BTW, I'd really rather not have a big discussion about this. If you want to talk, talk to anyone you know on FA who hasn't left yet. That site is a ship that deserves to sink, and we can help by coaxing as many people into the IB lifeboat as possible.

EDIT: It occurred to me that my 'Shit Just Got Real' picture might be against IB's ACP, and sure enough it is. So it's gone. Honestly, I never set out to outright break the rules when I upload something (Test them? Occasionally...) so, INKBUNNY ADMINS: IF I EVER UPLOAD SOMETHING THAT'S AGAINST THE RULES, IF YOU SIMPLY MENTION IT TO ME, I WILL HAPPILY REMOVE IT MYSELF. Just figured I'd put that out there.
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Added: 7 years, 2 months ago
 
DecapDuck
7 years, 2 months ago
Personally I could care less about feelings from one site to another. everyone has there reasons for staying or leaving. I have accounts on FA, SA, DA, IB, SF, and DD. though to me (personally) FA has been the only site I have yet to get any flak for my headless art. IB is too new for me to feel at home and my headless stuff dominated the "headless" search here so that tells me there aren't many here to connect with. DA is more photo manips, and other places the people are too critical when it comes to what I do best.

Now I can't say I don't know where you are coming from. everyones kink, style, etc needs a home. and FA seems to have kicked you out. but for now I remain in my little FA box peering out the window of IB.
Matrixbeast
7 years, 2 months ago
I think lots of people don't leave FA for IB is because IB is basically only for porn...
Alfador
7 years, 2 months ago
https://inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=6378
More than half the submissions on Inkbunny (at the time that journal was made) General-rated, not even Mature content, much less porn. Unfortunately searching by content rating is currently disabled, so I can't verify that this is still the case, but Inkbunny was NEVER intended as a porn-only site. It is a FURRY ART SITE. It is intended to be inclusive, to not censor porn, nor cub porn, as long as no humans are involved (for legal reasons). It is not intended to exclude non-porn art, and never will be.
Matrixbeast
7 years, 2 months ago
I based that statement on the most viewed.
You can make all the general art you want, doesn't mean anyone's looking at it =P
Zeikcied
7 years, 2 months ago
Same could be said for FA.
Cyndon
7 years, 1 month ago
definitely, and i'd be willing to bet (though this is NOT fact) that there is more porn on FA than IB.
AlexReynard
7 years, 1 month ago
I'm certain that's true, just because of how much bigger a site FA is. Although whether FA has a greater percentage of porn, I have no idea.
TheLastGasp
7 years, 2 months ago
I lost a lot of sympathy for FA when ECMajor got a 3 day ban for a photo manip.  no warning, no just deleting the image with a warning, just WHAM, temp ban.
Alfador
7 years, 2 months ago
The worst part of FA's hamfisted approach to "moderating" is that when they delete a submission with no notice or appeal, all the people who commented on that submission also have their content, which was NOT in violation, also removed! This is not good site policy. This is not even good site coding, if that is the best they can do (as they claim).

I'm not certain, but I think here on Inkbunny, when a submission is found to be in violation of site policy... it is HIDDEN. Forceably marked private, so the artist can change the submission to remove offending material... WITHOUT DELETING OTHER CONTENT, such as the description or viewer comments... and then have it unhidden when it's clean. The fact that FA does not do this, does not even make the attempt, shows incredible laziness and lack of concern for the site users, without which FA would be NOTHING.
SpearWolf
7 years, 2 months ago
I thought FA already was nothing.
Alfador
7 years, 2 months ago
It's getting there... it just has a long way to fall.
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
>all the people who commented on that submission also have their content, which was NOT in violation, also removed!

YES. Sweet fucking hell, this is what upsets me the most. A picture can be reuploaded, but the comments are just gone forever. And the people who favorited the image now have another grey rectangle in their favs gallery. I am not okay with other people getting punished for something I did.
SpearWolf
7 years, 2 months ago
People still use FA? Big lol.
YukiAkuma
7 years, 2 months ago
It really isn't worth getting worked up about. They're just small people with no power in real life who get off on abusing any sort of imaginary power they think they have. :P
SenGrisane
7 years, 2 months ago
The admins could use a standardized procedure. It seems everyone handles it differently.
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
I love this so much I'm nearly crying. Seriously, I want to engrave this in gold and mail it to every single one of their houses. If there was a standardized policy on cub art, the admins could do their job easier and the users would actually be able to predict which of their submissions might be removed. Right now, it's literally impossible.

But they won't make a standardized procedure. Why? Because it's too much work. Because the administration tries so very hard to please everybody by not taking a firm stand on anything. If they made up cub porn guidelines, they'd have to actually decide what constitutes cub porn, and then they'd realize that there is absolutely no way to enforce the ban without removing a huge chunk of FA's art. If your criteria is that it 'appears to be cub', that could apply to any number of artists who draw toons or chibis. Sandypants would be screwed.

They enacted a ban without realizing there was no way to enforce it fairly, so they're not bothering to try.
SenGrisane
7 years, 2 months ago
At my work I only have to deal with standardized procedures ^^
I have written some as well. Might be interesting to write one :3
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
That would be interesting. Write up a fair, thorough procedure for determining what is and isn't cub and deliver it to all of the head admins. Who knows?
SenGrisane
7 years, 2 months ago
My first attempt :3
https://inkbunny.net/submissionview.php?id=108957

You are welcome to give feedback and/or extend it. It's just what I could cough up quickly in 2 hours of work.
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
It's very good for a first draft!
SenGrisane
7 years, 2 months ago
I have only been doing this for years :p
Although it is of course not what I usually describe ^^
Was fun to write something simpler (from formatting, not content) for a change without those rigit specifications.
ScottyKat
7 years, 2 months ago
*hugs on ya* Honestly i left all my cub stuff on fa on purpose.. it was only a few weeks ago that
they finally hit me. And some of it was not cub XD.  But i just laughed at em for it. (they just took out most
of my gallery. To bad for them) But yeah.. They do tend to be psyco about things that "LOOK" like they
could be cub. so even if its not directly cub, if it looks cute, and they dont look like "obvious adults"
the throw up the red flag.

They are a paranoid lot there.
Blackpaw
7 years, 2 months ago
i think the reason the admins dont touch cub porn stories on FA is because none of them can read. The rule via gut feeling instead of by what is written.
chaosblackwing
7 years, 2 months ago
" Blackpaw wrote:
i think the reason the admins dont touch cub porn stories on FA is because none of them can read. The rule via gut feeling instead of by what is written.


Hmm, you may be on to something here...
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
>i think the reason the admins dont touch cub porn stories on FA is because none of them can read. The rule via gut feeling instead of by what is written.

THIS IS SO FUCKING TRUE I WANT TO POUR MONEY ON YOUR PENIS.
Blackpaw
7 years, 2 months ago
I accept most forms of physical currency that isn't made of stone (that would hurt yo)

donations can also be made to my not for profit organization for making me richer via paypal
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
Can I donate directly to your genitals?
Blackpaw
7 years, 2 months ago
Sure, why not.
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
Just did. ;)
Blackpaw
7 years, 2 months ago
oh wow thankies

*does the happy dick dance*
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
<beholds with awe the happy dick dance>
Blackpaw
7 years, 2 months ago
*involves a lot of pelvic thrusting*
Humbug
7 years, 2 months ago
I should report my own image here: https://www.furaffinity.net/view/5554798/  and call it "cub porn" and see if the admins take it down. Given what you're saying here, it may even happen. :D

Granted, I haven't caused as much "drama" as you have, so they probably don't have the vendetta against me that they do against you, but still. :3
ProjectDemise
7 years, 2 months ago
You could always come back to sofurry.  The buttons work now!
chaosblackwing
7 years, 2 months ago
I Really wish I could say I'm surprised by this, but honestly, the only thing I can think of is to be surprised that it took them that long. The only real reason I can think of for you getting whaled on like this is that some mod, or even more than one, is on a power trip and the idea of admitting that they were Wrong the first time around is just not acceptable to them(or at least that's the first thing that comes to mind).

In any case, hope you can put their blatant stupidity behind you soon, and actually get some decent sleep from doing so.
Irfie
7 years, 2 months ago
I know little but have some suspects, don't know any names, but gender... she? Because women usually hate CP, rarely understand words, and the principal cause: being a gentleman, Dragoneer cannot un-admin her, and impunity naturally leads to irresponsibility. This case is unlikely to cure. Also, what if someone compromised an admin account again, but this time acts stealthy and does things just that stupid that not to be too suspicious, yet to lower respect to administration - you are a good target then, as watched enough, and likely to attract attention.
And the craziest version would be that you deleted and re-uploaded these submissions youself, just for fun - I remember you thinking about giving out a password for your account, so who knows what you might think of instead? Though, I can't say I really believe in that possibility.
Poco
7 years, 2 months ago
I use FA to stay in touch with friends and view the clean artists I like.  I haven't uploaded anything there in a year or more and only occasionally update my journal.  That site is so poorly managed I've all but given up on it.  *shrugs*  
I've moved my donation money here to IB.  Hopefully others will vote with their wallets too.
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
>I've moved my donation money here to IB.  Hopefully others will vote with their wallets too.

Very well said.
Shuyo
7 years, 2 months ago
The problem with trying to bring people to IB is that FA is more community-based, which appeals to more people.

Gobby
7 years, 2 months ago
Because it has more people?  Since moving here I've made friends with more furs than I ever had at FA.  People are generally kinder, the drama is practically nonexistent, and the atmosphere is inclusive, as opposed to the growing exclusivity of FA.  Maybe it's because I was thrown to the wolves when 'neer decided we were the problem, but I've never felt more a part of a community than here.  Trying to connect with people on FA was an uphill battle.
Alfador
7 years, 2 months ago
I'm not really sure what features of FA don't exist on Inkbunny... as far as that goes, if the only thing keeping people on FA is the community, i.e. the people, then there is no stopping a slow migration over to Inkbunny--people will straddle the middle for a while, watching both sites because people they know have taken one side or the other, but as people start using their Inkbunny accounts more and their FA accounts less, FA will gradually shrink until there's nobody left for the admins to torment except one another.
Blackpaw
7 years, 2 months ago
reply in wrong place and is being moved
drakiskier
7 years, 2 months ago
hey alex, i havent seen any new FFF's in a while...   what happened to them?

is Ether on here too?
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
Ether's not here yet, but I've been trying to coax him. And yes, we've recorded some FFFs, but he hasn't posted them yet. Poke him.
DraculJOSHI
7 years, 2 months ago
it's a shame... your shit just got real was a huge lol to me when I first saw it. And it is just a humorous take on an phrase, I think such an innocent, not offensive to anyone use of real shit should be allowed.

like with a "fair use" thing as some countries have it for copyrighted work.
KinkyTurtle
7 years, 2 months ago
"Disgusting" is a subset of "offensive".
Hermie
7 years, 2 months ago
Disgust is a personal viewpoint, and not suitable as a frame of reference. Homosexuality is disgusting to many people, for example.
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
Naw, it was fair. It said in the rules no poo photos, I didn't pay attention, and they got me. If I'm to have any standing to bitch at the admins when they act unfairly, I have to be willing to accept it when they actually are following their own rules.
DraculJOSHI
7 years, 2 months ago
I agree, I am just saying that the rules might not be perfect and an additional evaluation might have possitive results.
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
I get it. Though if both FA and IB have rules against pictures of poop, maybe there's some kinda obscenity law they both have to comply with that I'm not aware of? <shrug>
DraculJOSHI
7 years, 2 months ago
possibly...
wuzzletodd
7 years, 2 months ago
Well now everyone knows what FA stands for..... Fucking Assholes :)
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
I didn't wanna be so blunt, but that did get a LOL out of me.
Relee
7 years, 2 months ago
In regards to the fecal matter attaining three dimensionality. I totally linked someone to that before on Reddit, and now that's a dead link, so boohoo. Also, in regards to you taking it off InkBunny, it's an interesting point that you didn't read the posting rules for this site. I haven't either, and I probably wouldn't have really thought to.

You corrected yourself, but getting mad when you get punished for breaking the rules seems odd to me. I mean, you shouldn't just post whatever and expect the admins to just take down what's not allowed. You're going to get punished beyond that, as encouragement for not posting things that violate the rules in the first place. You're supposed to only post what's allowed, not post anything and let them clean it up.

Well, that's my perspective anyways. Obviously you took it down anyways, but I suppose it's the same thing on FA. They can't be expected to go through all your stuff and clean it up for you. You're breaking the rules, so it makes sense for them to make an extreme action against that. It's not their job to police your content, it's their job to punish you for violating their rules and not policing your own content.

Of course, it's kind of ridiculous that they haven't simply banned you after all the times you break their rules. ^.^;;

I don't like FA's posting restrictions either but I guess what I'm saying is, you're complaining about stupid things that only exist as an extension of what you're already in control of. You know that you've got a fuck ton of art on FA that's against the rules. They might not go through your gallery and remove stuff that is against the rules, but it's still there, and you know it. If it's been there for a year or two and they suddenly remove it, it was against the rules the whole time. You're knowingly violating their rules. It's odd that they don't punish you outright when it's obvious they've got their eye on you, but you must understand you're basically demanding their wrath. If anything you seem upset that they're not being more wrathful.


Sorry to say all that. I know it's kind of harsh, and awkward considering the thing they removed wasn't really against the rules, but you should also understand that it wasn't okay to re-upload it without getting a response from them. You can't just assume that no response means it's okay to re-post, even if it doesn't break the rules. They're arguing over that pic, and they're slow as fuck, and you got impatient, or maybe you just wanted to fuck with them some more, I don't know. But you should have given them a mail or a jab or something, or left a shout on Dragoneer's page or whatever. Reposting it just doesn't make sense to me.

I hope you understand all that. I mean, if you wanna make trouble that's your thing, but I just can't stand here and pretend you're in the right in all this. FA Admins are stupid and impotent but they're "The Law" over there and you're playing the crook.

And in case you worry, I still love ya anyways buddy. <3
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
>In regards to the fecal matter attaining three dimensionality. I totally linked someone to that before on Reddit, and now that's a dead link, so boohoo.

Here it is again: http://oi53.tinypic.com/xnc095.jpg

I dunno if I'm allowed to link to images that violate the ACP, but I'll take that link down in a blink if I'm not.

>You're supposed to only post what's allowed, not post anything and let them clean it up.

I never knowingly post anything that I believe is against their AUP.

>They can't be expected to go through all your stuff and clean it up for you.

Why not? They explicitly said they would.

>It's not their job to police your content

Really? Because I've been believing the opposite all this time: that IS their job.

>Of course, it's kind of ridiculous that they haven't simply banned you after all the times you break their rules. ^.^;;

I'm as baffled as you are.

>If it's been there for a year or two and they suddenly remove it, it was against the rules the whole time.

Not when they suddenly change the rules and make pics that were acceptably suddenly unacceptable. They told people, 'take down the offending cub art or we will take it down for you'. And my response was, "Oh, so that's an option? Fine. I will let it stay in my gallery and let you clean it up."

But they don't. Because they're lazy. I've had admins look through my gallery before, and they only ever seem to look through a few pages at a time.

Oh, except for that one retard who went through my whole gallery and deleted about thirty images which turned out to be not against the AUP at all, but he didn't read it, so OOPSY! >.<

>If anything you seem upset that they're not being more wrathful.

I am upset that whenever they demonstrate their wrath, they direct it at something seemingly random, instead of what makes sense for them to. They punish my watchers instead of me. They remove content that ISN'T against the AUP and leave up images that ARE. They punish me for technical violations and ignore my requests for help when I'm being harassed or someone's flagrantly block-evading. I'm upset by the sheer sloppiness of it.

>but you should also understand that it wasn't okay to re-upload it without getting a response from them.

I understand that, but I don't care. I made the decision I did because I don't have any reason to respect them. They've demonstrated an ignorance of their own rules enough times that I flat-out don't see how they can expect anyone else to.

>They're arguing over that pic, and they're slow as fuck, and you got impatient, or maybe you just wanted to fuck with them some more, I don't know. But you should have given them a mail or a jab or something,

I did. No response for five days. Now, someone on the forums said that that was an average wait time. Had I known that, I might have been more patient. But in general, if someone can't be bothered to tell me something, I don't care how much they get pissed when I don't know it.

>I hope you understand all that. I mean, if you wanna make trouble that's your thing, but I just can't stand here and pretend you're in the right in all this. FA Admins are stupid and impotent but they're "The Law" over there and you're playing the crook.

I am in the wrong if you go by their rules. I don't respect their rules and consider myself in the right morally.

>And in case you worry, I still love ya anyways buddy. <3

Same here. E>
AlessaSmile
7 years, 2 months ago
The only admin who actually gives a fuck is Ratte, and she had to quit.
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
Well, and Wolfblade. But he's out too. I imagine that sane people with a work ethic don't last too long in the job.
Hermie
7 years, 2 months ago
The admins of FA are fucking retards. I was suspended for "reuploading" an image when it was the ORIGINAL image. They can't read timestamps to save their lives.

I gave them hell before Witchiebunny finally gave me the banhammer, and ED graced me with a page.
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
The admins of FA are fucking retards. I was suspended for "reuploading" an image when it was the ORIGINAL image. They can't read timestamps to save their lives.

GAWD. I'm almost tempted to put up a completely new image there, say in the description it's a reupload the admins previously deleted, and see if they take the bait.
Hermie
7 years, 2 months ago
They'll just give you a permaban. Just make sure you have a secondary watch account handy so you can still access the site and any adult works you wish to see.

Though the reason I was finally banned didn't have anything to do with submissions. There was a dramafest related to me standing up to someone making rude comments, and I was eventually banned for linking to petsex.com. I posted the link to prove a point and to shut them up.
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
>Just make sure you have a secondary watch account handy so you can still access the site and any adult works you wish to see.

Wish I'd taken that particular advice just a little quicker...

>Though the reason I was finally banned didn't have anything to do with submissions. There was a dramafest related to me standing up to someone making rude comments, and I was eventually banned for linking to petsex.com. I posted the link to prove a point and to shut them up.

Sometimes FA reminds me of, in grade school, when a teacher comes upon one kid bullying another, and they punish the one who was bullied for 'fighting' and leave the bully alone so they won't have to deal with his psycho parents.
Hermie
7 years, 2 months ago
Yep, FA doesn't like it when you call out their hypocrisy. Just make another account under a completely different name and don't comment on anything. It's very easy to stay under the radar.
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
I may eventually, purely just to watch stuff, but I'm not going to tempt fate right now.
Hermie
7 years, 2 months ago
(ignore this space)
Blackraven2
7 years, 2 months ago
Yeah, but Inkbunny lacks content.

if I search my favorite topics here I get zero hits or a few I have long seen. Only on FA I occasionally find stuff I haven't seen yet.

And honestly, How are we even supposed to get content like Darkwolfie's here on inkbunny? I don't even know who has credentials to that account (or the right to touch his stuff) . Theres also tons of other stuff there where the people haven't been active in ages.

Hell even l I didn't move my stuff here yet becaue its too much work re-uploading (and the IB interface is killing me, aside from the eyecancerstyling) The only thing I bother to upload here is stuff that FA will no longer accept.

And then there's the thing about zero tolerance to human contents.

<troll mode on> FA might be gone the Nazi way, but Stalinism isn't that much better </troll mode off>
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
>Yeah, but Inkbunny lacks content.

Sure, now it does. Why? Because not enough people are here yet. Because there's not enough content here yet. Because not enough people are here yet. Because there's not enough content...

>if I search my favorite topics here I get zero hits or a few I have long seen. Only on FA I occasionally find stuff I haven't seen yet.

So? Keep your membership to FA only to browse their porn and give nothing back.

>And honestly, How are we even supposed to get content like Darkwolfie's here on inkbunny?

Dunno who that is.

>Hell even l I didn't move my stuff here yet becaue its too much work re-uploading

No offense, but that's bullshit. For starters, you can bulk upload. For seconds, I managed to upload hundreds and hundreds of my pics and stories here. You have 55.

>(and the IB interface is killing me, aside from the eyecancerstyling)

That's pure rationalizing. I wasn't too fond of it myself at first, and I eventually realized it was only me being resistant to change.

>And then there's the thing about zero tolerance to human contents.

Not exactly. They just don't want human porn. It's probably a way for the site to avoid some kinda law.

Besides, all your content is stories, right? To be blunt, no one judges stories by the same criteria as pictures. Have you ever heard of anyone getting arrested for having erotic stories on their computer? No. But images? Even if they're cartoons or photoshops? Hell yes. While I am not saying you should go against IB's acceptable content policy, if you did upload stories with humans, I can virtually guarantee they'd slip under the radar. Over at FA, most of my cub porn is in writing, and I haven't heard of anyone having written cub porn taken down by admins.

>FA might be gone the Nazi way, but Stalinism isn't that much better

You've given the flimsiest reasons imaginable for why IB's as bad as FA. You don't like how it looks? It's too hard to upload your work here? (Despite the fact that it's easier than uploading to FA...) So far, I have not come upon a single speck of drama or incompetence here. This is a site that quietly does what it's supposed to. That ALONE would be reason enough to switch.
Blackraven2
7 years, 2 months ago
Yeah, traditional chicken egg problem.

And I do resist change, most of all stupid changes in AUP...

That is darkwolfies page:
https://www.furaffinity.net/user/darkwolfie
He has great art, but sadly he won't draw anymore, nor move his account to IB or anywhere else. He can't. He's dead.

And yeah you are perfectly right, I am simply being lazy ;)
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
<moment of complete and utter mindfuck>

I just realized that, throughout this whole conversation, at no time did I realize that we are ON Inkbunny, with me basically arguing why you should have an Inkbunny account. MY BRAIN IS FULL OF WHAT.
Blackraven2
7 years, 2 months ago
Well getting an account doesn't help yet. It needs content. So far I only posted one single story that I'm not allowed to post on FA anymore. To really promote IB I'd have to take everything here, and so does everyone else.

What we really need is FA to go to shit big time so people start moving in masses.

But as it seems those fucktards are on their best way there ... WTF banning YOU of all people ?!?!?!????

Can you post that journal that got you banned somewhere? I can't find anything there that would even remotely justify that so I assume it got deleted. I'd like to know if it was at least worth it
AlexReynard
7 years, 2 months ago
>Can you post that journal that got you banned somewhere? I can't find anything there that would even remotely justify that so I assume it got deleted. I'd like to know if it was at least worth it

Not yet. Like I said, I'm trying something diplomatic first. I'll probably share the journal eventually, but the response I get determines the repost. I get a positive response? I just share it with a few friends who directly ask. I get a respectful negative response? I post it here but let everyone know that Dragoneer at least wasn't a dick. I get a dick response? I repost it on every forum on the entire internet. ;)
Blackraven2
7 years, 2 months ago
fair.
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