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DOtter

Canadians Be Warned

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The Harper Conservatives are planning major changes of the way Canada deals with American security concerns. They're discussing even more concessions to our sovereignty and bringing us even deeper into American* control of our laws, our economy and our world image. And get this; it will be NOT BE DEBATED IN PARLIAMENT and the deadline for submissions of opinion is TOMORROW! (June 3rd)

Here's an article about the latest Tory attrocity http://bit.ly/kTliOj
or go here to tell them what you think. https://www.borderactionplan-plandactionfrontalier.gc.ca/psec-scep/cybersecurity-cybersecurite.aspx?lang=eng I urge my fellow Canucks to give them a piece of your mind; they obviously need more than they have!

*Please understand, I don't hate the United States of America per se. It's a great land and its citizens are fine people for the most part; I count some of them as friends. But if I wanted to be an American, I'd emigrate, not try to Americanize my own country! This is what the current administration -- the Conservative Party -- in Canada is doing, just as the Progressive Conservatives did before them under "Lyin' Brian" Mulroney with the North American Free Trade Agreement, (NAFTA), which a Royal Bank of Canada spokesman once called "the most disastrously one-sided free trade deal in the history of free trade deals." (And RBC is not a hot-bed of patriotic radicalism.) Now the current Tories want to harmonize Canada's Internet surveillance, law enforcement, even our boarder patrol with America's, just to get them to re-open the boarder. It's much too big a sacrifice!
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Norithics
7 years, 2 months ago
Your entire caveat at the end is frankly unnecessary. I don't want you to be more American, either! =\
DOtter
7 years, 2 months ago
*hugs* Thanks. But it's true that some of us do resent being neighbors with a superpower. (Norwegians used to have similar thoughts about the Soviet Union, as I've heard.) There was a possibility that some* might have taken it that way, so I decided to clarify.

*(ie. our own current administration and their supporters)
CyberCornEntropic
7 years, 2 months ago
Making you more like us would be a loss to everyone.  Quite frankly, the US is better off letting Canadians be Canadians whether you join the Union or not.  We're stronger with diversity than with homogeneity.  Unfortunately, politicians typically have their heads so stuck up where the sun doesn't shine that they can't understand simple common sense.

politician, n. A criminal who wants to be famous.
DOtter
7 years, 2 months ago
From your mouth to Steven Harper's ear! Canadian neocons have had some kind of fetish over America's interests for decades. I think it started some time around the 1950's when Deifenbaker killed our war-plane industry so that we could buy American Bomarc missiles instead. (And those things never did work right, unlike our air-superiority CF-105 Arrow fighters.)

politics, n many blood-sucking insects
CyberCornEntropic
7 years, 2 months ago
The US has mangled enough cultures during its expansion.  Perhaps the most applicable one would be the Hawai'ians, whose kingdom was effectively taken over and abolished by American immigrants who then proceeded to make Hawai'i an American territory and later state.  Expanding at the cost of wrecking another culture is a violation of what the US should be about (not that we've cared in the past).  Besides, we failed to invade and conquer you twice already.

If Canada is to ever join the Union in some way, it should be to its advantage rather than solely ours.  The more of your culture and perspectives that can be preserved, the better.  Our melting pot isn't that of a foundry, mixing metals and ores together into a single lump of steel, but that of a cook pot, mixing ingredients and dishes together so that the whole is a lot tastier and nutritious than the parts.

Of course, I am a fan of Star Trek and do believe that concepts like IDIC are a good philosophy.  The wise wield diversity as a strength for unity, not consider it a weakness.

snollygoster, n. A shrewd or calculating dishonest politician, as compared to the idiotically dishonest politician.  Not to be confused with the later word snallygaster, a Massachusetts monster as fictional as an honest politician.
DOtter
7 years, 2 months ago
Mind you, technically, if Canada were to become the 52nd through 75th states -- gotta break it all up some, don't want any part of Canada ending up bigger than Texas -- then what's good for America would be good for what used to be Canada, since it would then be part of America. But that's splitting hairs. (And hairs* are more fun in one piece.) Honestly though, I think it'd be a lot less fuss and bother to just leave things the way they are. Canadian society is far from perfect -- it's human, all things human are less than perfect -- but I kinda like it.


*(Sorry, that's hares.)
CyberCornEntropic
7 years, 2 months ago
Certainly it would be a lot less fuss and bother to leave things as they are, but life always has other plans.  Sometimes all that fuss and bother is worth it.  Sometimes, it isn't.  Often the only way we can tell is to let history be the judge. :\

Considering that Alaska is bigger than Texas, I don't see any real need to carve up the provinces like Thanksgiving turkeys.  However, if Canada ever did decide to join the Union, I don't think it would do so in one piece.  I see Quebec as the only one unlikely to join, perhaps because the rest of Canada finally got sick of its separatist posturing.  Hard to say, really, since this is nothing more than speculative fiction.

"Some of our government policies have been kinda out-to-lunch, especially after Dubyah"?  ;p  Personally, I think that's the wrong President Botch.  Try Botch Senior.  Glitchon (Clinton) was basically sharing with his wife, if not fronting for her; Botch Junyor was a simple boy way in over his head, and Obumbla (Obama) is too in love with his mirror.

I think both the US and Canada would benefit tremendously by unifying, but not at the cost of what makes Canada what it is.  That would benefit both Canada and the US.


election year, n. A period of time when a select few idiots spend a ridiculous amount of energy, money, and hot air trying to convince the dimwit masses that they're the best fool to lead a bunch of nincompoops.
Bailey
7 years, 2 months ago
After reading that article it personally doesn't seem like anyone is trying to make Canada more like America, just remove some redundancy in the import/export system and share border surveillance information better. I mean since we are neighbors after all doesn't it make sense that we should use similar systems in certain circumstances to better facilitate communication? Or was there something I missed in the article?
DOtter
7 years, 2 months ago
You'd have to live here. The articles say they're trying to facilitate interactions between our various government agencies; that's reasonable. What it doesn't say in so many words is that, by harmonizing our procedures, we're adopting some of your policies as well. Differences in government policies reflect differences in culture... or at least they should. And that's the trouble I have with this move in a nut shell; the Tories seem to have been trying to harmonize Canadian culture with America's for decades, (which is one reason why the Liberals keep winning elections. No, please don't ask me how they lost so badly this time...)

Besides, no offense intended, but some of your government's policies have been kinda out-to-lunch, especially under Dubyah.
Bailey
7 years, 2 months ago
No offense taken. In fact i agree with you wholeheartedly about the gov't here and the need to keep Canada, "Canada" and not "America Light" as it seems they are trying to do.
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