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PeachClover

Dear Science Community

Ordinarily, I am slow to respond and my rants happen months after the event, but tonight I am going to have to break that because I can only take so much.

E=MC^2, everyone has heard it but no one seems to know what it means.  Let me spell it out for you in simple terms:
Energy=Mass
Mass=Energy


Never mind the complexity, the point is they are one in the same.  What does this mean?  As we manipulate one so can we manipulate the other, if you are reading this on a COMPUTER, you know that energy can be manipulated to do some fantastic things.  A short while ago in this planet's history, the modern computer would be called magic because people would not have known how it works.

" Arthur C. Clarke, "Profiles of The Future", 1961 (Clarke's third law) wrote:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.


So why is it so FN hard to believe that the advancements to control the universe can be part of our natural born bodies?
You say it's because it can't be proven in scientific environments?  You are literally demanding to take a test before the information is given!  You refuse to believe personal account of those who say they have experienced anything out of the norm, but you want to believe the account of a person who calls self a scientist, where scientist is defined as just as disbelieving as you?  I am sure glad you aren't a lawyer.

People like me believe ourselves before we believe someone else; maybe that is why I still see glimpses of the future because somebody did tell me stuff like that was impossible, and I refused to believe their words over my experience.

Some extreme sci-cos think that everyone who experiences something "impossible" is crazy, well you can think whatever, but just remember: they called Galileo crazy too.
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Added: 7 years, 6 months ago
 
Alfador
7 years, 6 months ago
It is, in fact, incredibly easy to believe that an advancement capable of controlling the universe is part of our natural born bodies.

It's called a hand. It can grasp tools and manipulate the environment in wonderfully complex ways. ;)
ZennithCaitiff
7 years, 5 months ago
Peach, i have to completely agree. The belief in oneself over others is the best tactic. I myself have been called crazy for my....gifts......sensitive to paranormal. ( I.E. spirits/ghosts/ ethereal beings) ive been that way my whole life.

The belief in advancements able to contol and manipulate the universe is extremely plausible. as are FTL ( Faster Than Light to those who need to know) devices and drives for space travel.  the ability to cross space time is also completely paussible.

hell the things we thought were "Science Fiction" back in the 40s and 50s are reality now....so whats to say our "sci fi" ideas now wont be reality in 50 years or so?

those that refuse to accept the even remote possibility of these things happening are simply ignorant and close mindedly retarded.

anyway, rant over, sorry for hijacking yer thread
Oedipus
7 years ago
PeachClover
7 years ago
"under proper observing conditions"?
Here's the truth, there is so much in life that you see but refuse to see because it doesn't make sense you.  When you see something improbable you play it off as a trick, a coincidence, or you just forget about it.  To truly prove to people that such abilities exist means you would have to harm them, because humans don't believe in what can't harm them. Simple as that.

But people also go crazy when there is a god-power that they cannot defend against; my sister was in the hospital with my mother as she was unconscious.  My sister was knocked back against the wall by a force that was described by all as what seemed to be a lightening bolt.  In this moment her vision went black, but she saw and heard my mother saying that everything would be ok, and when she regained her normal vision, she saw my mother who was supposed to be unconscious staring at her.

This power scared her so deeply she ran away shortly after sharing the experience.  She ran away, because she was scared, but what do you think the rest of the world would do?  My guess is either try to harness that ability or try to kill her as an interpreted threat.  THAT!  Is why people who have these abilities do not show them to others.
Oedipus
7 years ago
If I had an ability, I'd jump at a chance to win a million. :( So broke!
PeachClover
7 years ago
"If"?
If I was an artist, I'd be famous.  If I were a musician, I'd be respected.  If I could program, I'd be appreciated.  The problem here is that everyone who says things like this is waiting for some divine gift to be bestowed upon them, but despite what the old ways tell you, you can and must make your own talent.  If you want superphysical abilities, manifest them yourself.

You can try to do great things, but most bodies are not built to handle that energy, if it doesn't work it a year, try something else, and come back to it another year.  I'm not going to tell you to stop trying anything, because as you discover more of yourself and train this "muscle", you'll discover you can do things that didn't work before.
Oedipus
4 years, 5 months ago
Two years and still nothing, sadly. ;~;
PeachClover
4 years, 5 months ago
You were trying everyday for two years, and still nothing?  What were you trying to do exactly?
Oedipus
4 years, 5 months ago
Maybe not every day.

What should I have tried to do?
PeachClover
4 years, 5 months ago
You should have tried to understand what you are trying to manifest into the world, then like a muscle that has never been used: train it and train it, until it is strong enough to actually cause an effect big enough to see.
Oedipus
4 years, 5 months ago
I've sort've been concentrating my effort on finding others who have abilities to teach me how to do it, rather than try to learn it on my own.

I've been having a hard time finding anybody with real powers.
PeachClover
4 years, 5 months ago
Imagine that bodies are different cities and abilities are destinations.  In my city I can get to the Pizza Hut by taking a few turns, but these same directions would not lead you to a Pizza Hut in yours.

If you are looking for a short cut, please don't - there are none.  If you are looking for advice: my first experience with telekinesis was somewhere between six and ten.  I remembered my body's brother said that he always wished he could beat our dad at pool.  One crazy and late night, my body's father took me out to play pool, and admiring my body's brother, I wanted to beat him to live up to the desires of my body's brother.  I did not have the motor skill to fine tune the shots, so when my body's father was lining up a shot, I put all of my wishing strength into wanting the ball to miss so that I would have another chance.  I wished so hard it actually caused physical pain, and the ball acted odd when he hit it.  After the third or fourth time this happened, I began to believe that my "wishing" was actually causing this, so I pushed harder and harder until I couldn't see straight from exhausting myself.  I ended up winning the game and as we left, he looked very shocked.  I was so tired after that, I passed out when I got into the car.

Did I believe I could change the path of the ball first or after I saw it move?  I believed that it was possible to move the ball before, the need (and yes at that age it was a need) to manifest this happening made me put forth the real effort to make it happen, and the witnessing of this happening allowed me to further develop the "muscle" of this ability despite the overwhelming exhaustion it caused every time I tried to use it.

To get technical, this is not what is commonly thought of as telekinesis; what I did was change the direction of the energy that was already in the ball.  An object can be moved by applying energy to it, however, the energy that is applied cannot be a "blast", it has to be a powerful stream of a high frequency somewhere in the realm of 300 pulses per second for the main stream.  Additionally, secondary streams of energy must be added at the harmonic frequencies of the object (the reason for this makes more sense if you watch videos on how to break a glass using only your voice).  If you do it right, it will sound like the scream of a bloody murder in your head.

I find the best practice for this is by using a dying fan motor, like a bathroom exhaust fan, where the energy is there to be used, but needs a push to get the machine working.  Currently, the most practical application I have for this particular skill is in starting cars with bad spark plugs, alternators, and collapsing coils.  

Hope that helps.
Oedipus
4 years, 5 months ago
Man, I'd love to see a demonstration sometime.
PeachClover
4 years, 5 months ago
To an observer, it would look like coincidence.
Oedipus
4 years, 5 months ago
How can you tell the difference between coincidence and power?
PeachClover
4 years, 5 months ago
Feel it.  Generally, unless the power in question is targeting you or passing through you, you won't notice it unless you're actively looking for it.
Oedipus
4 years, 5 months ago
Isn't there some way I could test to see if my concentration on a thing affects it more than coincidence? That might help me figure out when something supernatural is happening and when it's just coincidence. What do you think?
PeachClover
4 years, 5 months ago
I think you are afraid to try because you are afraid of embarrassing yourself.  If you are too afraid of looking silly, even alone as you practice, then you will never do whatever you want to do because your whole heart isn't in the effort, and that is true for any skill mundane or supernatural.
Oedipus
4 years, 5 months ago
Maybe. I still don't really believe that any supernatural powers exist, but I'm still desperately looking for it.

Every time I think I find something, it's something that can't be tested or demonstrated. :<
PeachClover
4 years, 5 months ago
If you don't believe they exist, then they don't.
Oedipus
4 years, 5 months ago
How can something exist for one person, but not for another?
PeachClover
4 years, 5 months ago
In my childhood, I saw others doing cartwheels and flips on the playground.  It was fascinating, so I tried to do that, but when I did them I was always trying as if asking permission - I was overly cautious and never gave full effort to the act.  Maybe because I believed I would hurt myself more when I failed or maybe because I was too lazy to give enough effort.  Basically, I believed I could not do those things, so when I tried I fell on my face.  However, a year or two ago, I was being chased by a dog right outside the back of a thrift store.  One of the employees had come out as I was running toward the fence.  I yelled out that a dog was chasing me, and without questioning if it were possible I jumped the fence in one fluid motion down to the truck ramp, rolled out of the fall to my feet and was going to run inside, but the dog had stopped following me, because it turned out that the dog was just chasing for fun.

The important part here is that although I had not practiced this act before, I did not stop to question whether it was possible or if it was a good idea or to argue with myself that there was some better way of handling the situation.  Somewhere in my subconscious, I knew that my body was able to do this despite how taxing it was, so I committed full effort toward the act.

Obviously, believing in something does not make a person good at it.  I could have tried that jump and hurt myself, but until some part of me believed that there was a chance that I could succeed in that act, I would have only given enough effort to prove that I would fail.  Until a person believes they can, then they can't, so for that person the thing in question is impossible and non-existent.
Oedipus
4 years, 5 months ago
But you could look at the other kids doing cartwheels and tell that cartwheels are real.
PeachClover
4 years, 5 months ago
When you turn on a microwave oven, you do not see the microwaves that cook the food, yet they are there.  If you used a microwave oven thousands of years ago, the people would only see magic, because they do not understand the science behind the thing.  To say that one understands how a microwave oven works is often a lie, because if that person did understand, then they could build one from scratch.  Like the layman and the microwave, I do not fully understand the abilities that I use, but I can use them none the less.  Because I can use them without fully understanding, I believe others can use them without fully understanding as well.  Scientists call this incomplete knowledge theory and the act of using incomplete knowledge experimentation.

If you want new abilities, then you need to experiment, and experiments, being made from incomplete knowledge often do not yield the result that is wanted, however, this is acceptable because it leads to improving your knowledge which leads to more reliable results.
Oedipus
4 years, 5 months ago
Even if I can't see microwaves, I can see that food has been cooked.

I still haven't found anyone with powers who is able to actually use them. :< Not in front of me, anyway, or on camera.
PeachClover
4 years, 5 months ago
You are expecting someone to be able to lift an object from stopped dead still and make it rise up and just stay floating in the air... This is like expecting a new born infant to win the gold medal in cross country running.  These human bodies are young in the universe, they cannot handle that much energy channeled through them and most people don't even have that much energy to give.  A single AAA battery cannot power a city, but that is what you are expecting.  I have referred to the power to do the ability as a muscle, because like a muscle it grows when used.  

You want to see some amazing feat, but that cannot happen until someone takes the baby steps to get there, and even then in a person's life time, that may not be enough to get to what you want to see.  Perhaps it will take generations.  That is called evolution.  I will tell you a truth: if only one person, or a small group of people - the ones who created the first electronic computers, were the only people interested in computers, then we would not have them today; they would still be in development.  Truthfully, they are still in development today, but this technology is at this point today because it became widespread.  There are uses, and there are needs, and there are countless developers.

In case I haven't made this clear: these abilities are in their infancy for all of earth.  You can imagine greater, and that is good, but you need to accept that this is where we stand.  The most advanced person toward these ends could, at best, be your personal trainer, because like exercise, no one can do the work for you.  Your attitude over these messages has been very defeatist, so even if you did have this personal trainer I imagine for all the times they might tell you that you could, you would whine and say you can't, and you would not get better, because you refuse to put forth the effort.  Until you change that, then the end result will not change.
Oedipus
4 years, 5 months ago
What kinds of abilities are you able to manifest?
PeachClover
4 years, 5 months ago
You have already read that I can manipulate pool balls, the reason I mentioned this one is because it has a name and an easy to recognize concept.  Most of the abilities that I can use well, don't have a name.  For example, there was a game shop in town that bought used games during a time when I had an obsession with collecting video games, at about 2:40p (yes, I remember that detail) I got a feeling that one of the games I wanted was there.  I pestered my dad to take me out there but he insisted on waiting until the next day.  The next day I searched every game the store had, but they didn't have any on my list.  I handed the list to the shop owner and asked if any of those games came through the previous day around 2:40, he said which one and that it was sold just before they closed the shop the previous day, which was the time when I felt the opportunity was gone.  

A lot of what I can do right now, comes off as coincidence, because it takes a lot of energy to make stuff happen.  It does not take that much energy to observe though, so basically I observe the unseen layers of reality and make minor changes to reach a result that is favorable to me.   Even though these abilities are very small, they give me an advantage that most people don't have, so I am very happy to have them.  I continue to develop them, not out of competition with anyone else, but to help my own endeavors.  
Oedipus
4 years, 5 months ago
Oh, man. A demonstration of the pool ball ability would be awesome to see.
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